Late flower help pics included

OGkushNC

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Hey guys first timer and I just have a few quick q's 1 my ph is obviously off meaning low I think. And I'm reading if its low to add limestone is this correct? because I also read somewhere that watering it with spring water would bring it back up to normal. Next I need some really good advise on this one guys my plants leaves are curling quit a bit rite where the buds are forming it doesn't look normal could it be root bound in some way and If it is what's the easiest way to transplant it? It's in a styrofome ice bucket it was the only thing I had at the time guys don't laugh, I put plenty of holes to breath and for drainage what gives. Just in case anyone's wondering I'm growing under a 400w hps sunsystem2 at the moment later and thanks in advance.
 

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laced23z

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Looks like to muck nutes u should always ph ur nute solution b4 watering yo that way ur ph don't get off track!
 

justanotherbozo

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yeah man, that curling looks like nitrogen toxicity and based on that i think i'd flush your plant thoroughly, ...and don't feed for at least a week, probably 2, just water until new growth comes out looking normal and healthy.

btw, you should do a search for 'hempy' which is a passive form of hydroponics and is hands down the easiest way to grow, ...and very forgiving of mistakes.

bozo

btw, if your ph is off then you can create lots of problems, for example, many nutrients are only available to your plants at specific ph ranges and if it gets locked out that causes an imbalance that locks out other nutrients and can have a cascading effect that can be very hard to get a handle on because you are always treating the deficiency's and not the underlying problem which is an out of balance ph.
 

barbz

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The leaves look very similar to our Cotton Candy when it went rootbound in bloom. You don't want to transplant at that stage, all you need is to get air to the roots. I don't know how old your plants are, but CC was three weeks from harvest when the leaves started clawing. Overwatering will also cause this as well. I would water less and go Psycho with a weeding tool on your soil, opening it up to let some air in there.

If you're in late bloom, let the leaves claw, you're not entering it in the County Fair after all. The home stretch is all about flower development. Aeration and water are your most likely key issues at this stage.
 

imchucky666

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Didn't that meter come with instructions?
It looks to me like the scales are in the order from top to bottom of Light, moisture, PH.
And it looks to me like your PH is right around 7, which is just a little high, but not bad.
How about some pics of the plant, not the cooler, with normal lights?
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Those meters are junk. Trusting one of them will only cause you problems. From the pics it looks like you got some claw going on due too N toxicity. I seriously doubt you have a pH issue.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Didn't that meter come with instructions?
It looks to me like the scales are in the order from top to bottom of Light, moisture, PH.
And it looks to me like your PH is right around 7, which is just a little high, but not bad.
How about some pics of the plant, not the cooler, with normal lights?
Good eye chuck. He is reading the moisture scale.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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The leaves look very similar to our Cotton Candy when it went rootbound in bloom. You don't want to transplant at that stage, all you need is to get air to the roots. I don't know how old your plants are, but CC was three weeks from harvest when the leaves started clawing. Overwatering will also cause this as well. I would water less and go Psycho with a weeding tool on your soil, opening it up to let some air in there.

If you're in late bloom, let the leaves claw, you're not entering it in the County Fair after all. The home stretch is all about flower development. Aeration and water are your most likely key issues at this stage.
The home strtch is about keeping those leaves healthy and functioning. The energy they make is what drives flower development.
 

justanotherbozo

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Ok I'm gonna read up on flushing. Now if I flush my plant will it still be fed the N?
flushing means to rinse the shit out of the rootzone man and what you need to do is to take a 5 gallon bucket full of water and test the ph and if it's not in the proper range then you need to adjust it, ...the range you should be shooting for with soil is 6.0 - 6.5.

...and if you don't have a digital ph meter, and you certainly don't need one, then you need to invest in a drip tester kit that will run you $10.00 - $15.00, this you DO need and it'll be accurate enough to serve your purpose. (you NEED one or the other, i'm a fan of low-tech, inexpensive and simple to use so the drip tester kit has been good enough for me for some years now, in fact, i'm still using the same kit i bought i can't remember when, lol)

...once you ph balance that 5 gallons what you want to do is to take your plant into the bathroom and put it into the tub and begin running that ph'd water slowly through your plant, ...go slow and pay attention so you notice when the water starts to run out the bottom and after you see maybe 20% runoff, meaning 20% of the water you've poured in has now leaked out, once you see that take a sample of that runoff and stop flushing while you do another ph test on that runoff, ...now this is important to understand, IF your ph reading from that runoff is higher than the ph of the ph balanced water that you poured in then you have salt buildup and will need to continue pouring ph'd water through your plants rootzone UNTIL the ph of your runoff is at least close to the ph of what you pour through.

...as a new grower i would strongly suggest that you consider coco hempy-buckets for your next run, it is way more forgiving of mistakes AND it is very simple to operate and maintain while giving remarkable and reliable results, i wish i'd found hempy style growing when i first started out i can tell you that for sure!

bozo

btw, here's a couple pics of my old cab and my old SuperSun II, ...i still have both but i'm not using either, lol. (i was growing budsickles then)
 

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justanotherbozo

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How often do I need to flush my plant in order to get these leaves somewhat back under control?
you should only need to do this once, ...basically what you're trying to do is wash out all the excess nutrients that have built up over time in your rootball, once you do that you can return to your normal feeding regimen, ...with the caveat that if you learn to water with at least 15 - 20% runoff at every watering in the future you will essentially be flushing with every watering and no longer need to worry about buildup going forward.

bozo
 

imchucky666

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And, if you only let the soil dry out between waterings, as opposed to letting it get desert dry, that will help avoid excess salt buildup as well.
 

imchucky666

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How often do I need to flush my plant in order to get these leaves somewhat back under control?
Some guys flush monthly just as preventive maintenance, but personally, I see no reason to flush unless you have problems from overfeeding or something.
 

OGkushNC

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Well I'm hoping for the best I just germinated another strain called gsc so I'm hoping this will be a better grow. I'm gonna try a different soil. I used MG potting mix The last grow i think the results could have been a little bit better but nonetheless it was decent considering it was bag seed. The GSC is being started off in FFOF and I'm gonna see if it'll be any different then the last grow ill keep you guys updated.
 

imchucky666

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Be careful with that, I remember a couple newer guys just within the past week or so, burning their seedlings in FFOF, don't remember if they had few, or just the soil, but I do remember the FFOF.
 

OGkushNC

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Yea I've been reading that as well I figure I give it a try I already had MG the last grow and as I said I think the results could have been a lil better, the GSC is starting to come up now I did t even notice it till this morning so hopefully this will be a bit better
 

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OGkushNC

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Oh not knocking MG at all I think it was my mistake of over feeding her at times which is pretty common for new growers lol anyway ill keep you updated onmy second grow.
 
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