When will states vote again>?
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djwimbo
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The way I understand it, states have the option every 2yrs. That is, to vote it into their state constitution. At a federal level, what we really need is for cannabis/THC to be removed from the Schedule 1 list, and that could be done at any time. Not at any time, like we should be expecting results soon, they're too occupied by the fact that they can't manage a budget, and anti-gun people are all pissed off.
LWD
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Say there djwimbo what if at any time cannabis does get rescheduled what possible repercussions will follow then in terms of cannabis laws?
thanks dj, I would like to add though imo, I dont think the fed. gov. will reschedule mj or legalize it unless enough states legalize the recreational use of mj(25-50). If that many states legalize the recreational use of mj, the fed. gov. will not have enough man power to stop it. Plus what are they gonna do? Randomly raid peoples homes? If they did, People would be getting pissed the fuck off(mj users and non users alike) and something would happen. Thats the only way I see marijuana becoming 100% legal in the fed. gov. eyes.
djwimbo
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There isn't a set outcome, and previous criminals probably won't be forgiven of their actions. I don't see how cannabis/THC would be completely free from a controlled substance regulation. So, it will still be limited to 18+ or 21+, and might still come with stipulations surrounding workman's comp, etc.
From what I hear, the feds have 150,000 acres to grow cannabis on, once they decide to lift the prohibition ... cigarette companies are prepared as well.
It won't be an easy task to get 25+ states to legalize recreational use. What is more likely, is 25+ states to approve medicinal use. If we can get >25 states to approve medicinal use, then by majority, it should be removed from the Sch-1 list. In order for any substance to be "Schedule 1" it has to have "No medicinal qualities" as well as a couple other requirements. If >25 states have approved it, they cannot deny that it has been reclassified, but it still won't be a quick and simple process.
... Vote Ron Paul?
I still don't think that would be a final solution, but it might help. I don't think our current president wants to be the one to end prohibition.
whoa didnt know that. But it makes sense. But i disagree with the medical marijuana point you made, because there is how many states, 18 states that have medical mj and the federal gov. still has marijuana a schedule 1 drug. They do deny it. And they will keep on denying it unless they are "forced" to lift prohibiton. Again, because the fed gov is the "ultimate in power" there isnt much they cant do. If they want to say marijuana has no medical qualities they will. When I say "force" the fed gov, I mean that they would not be able to enforce their marijuan prohibition if so many states legalize marijuan for recreational purposes. Because, #1 they cant go around kicking random familys doors down, one by one. because they know it is against the law and even if it wasnt against the law than MANY people would get pissed off and there would be a huge conflict/unrest. not only would they have the pro marijuana citizens against them but also the citizens against mj. #2 there is no way that they have enough man power to go in and raid everyone in 20 something states. As opposed to medical marijuana where they go to the dispensaries and raid and instill fear into everyone that sees the event happening and people that didnt see it happening. the simplest form I can think of is...medical marijuana dispensary = Big 2 foot long bug.(sqaush that mo fucka) recreational use of mj = 1,000,000 little bugs. (too many, cant kill them all)
djwimbo
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I forget what his percentage was, but as long as the average person only sees a presidential election as being between two people, it will inevitably fail.
ford442
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read a poll earlier stating that 60% of STATES now approve of regulation..!
i wanted to point out that there is an incredible amount of land to grow hemp/weed - the USDA states that there are something like 600,000,000 acres set aside for emergency production with close to 1,000,000,000 acres in use.. it is enough to grow hemp and make so much oil that we don't need to pump it out of the ground ever again..!
i wanted to point out that there is an incredible amount of land to grow hemp/weed - the USDA states that there are something like 600,000,000 acres set aside for emergency production with close to 1,000,000,000 acres in use.. it is enough to grow hemp and make so much oil that we don't need to pump it out of the ground ever again..!
Not soon enough,,,,but should be put on every ballot in the US at that time...Our legislators shouldn't be voting.....There is too much riding on the mj issue.....Another thing this is the US and all voting should be done together.....not a state at a time,,,,like what is being done with marijuana....
It has to be 3/4th of the states as stated in article five of the consitituion of the united states.
Article Five of the United States Constitution describes the process whereby the Constitution may be altered. Altering the Constitution consists of proposing an amendment or amendments and subsequent ratification.
Amendments may be proposed by either:
- two-thirds of both houses of the United States Congress; or
- by a national convention assembled at the request of the legislatures of at least two-thirds of the states.
- the legislatures of three-fourths of the states; or
- state ratifying conventions held in three-fourths of the states.
Any amendment so ratified becomes a valid part of the Constitution, provided that no state "shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the senate," without its consent.
I mean recreational use. Because medical marijuana can easily be targeted. Dispensaries being busted and whatnot. recreational use on the other hand, everyone and their grandma would be growing, so what are the feds gonna do? theres really nothing they can do. It would be a joke to us americans if the feds try enforcing their marijuana law if a bunch of states legalized the recreational use. They're not gonna start invading everyones house in a state that has legalized rec use of mj.
ford442
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what i have heard is that there could still be cases involving people who are growing and selling for recreational use without the proper license and regulation. then it is still like manufacturing a controlled substance - you can't make your own beer and sell it commercially or cigs. even growing vegetables or fruit or cooking food has this rule i suppose. you aren't supposed to still be an underground supplier of large quantities when there are legal channels of selling it. you can even grow 5 plants and sell most of it i suppose - you just can't make significant amount of money like an unlicensed business. people are concerned that there could still be property forfeiture cases if this continues without some changes to the existing laws.