RetiredMatthebrute
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should be fine, if the little one is still in a smaller pot maybe transfering it to its bigger pot sooner than later would be a good idea so you dont risk it drying out in the little container.
Apocalyptic Blueberry
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perkele
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I'll do that tomorrow night when I'll get back home.
perkele
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Day 20 from seed for the first one and day 13 from seed for the 2nd one.
Been away for couple of days, just came home and I am pleased with how they are looking.
The 1st one is getting really nice, has secondaries from every knot. Need to top it or FIM it or LST it, need your advice guys.
The 2nd one is getting there, getting bigger, tomorrow I will change the pot.
And some pics. Please comment and advice
Sincerely420
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Exactly where you wanna be! Time to FIM, TOP, or LST 
perkele
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Sincerely420, you are a master in this kind of things, I've seen pics of your girls, give me more advice. What would you recommend to do with mine? Never FIMed, topped or LSTed before. What should I do? With what should I start? Was thinking to Top it, only looks better for FIMing, but what if I don't cut properly? I know FIMing is supposed to be easy but I think topping is. At least in topping you see what you cut, in FIMing you just cut...something. And as you can see, my top is a bit hidden/short so I don't know how I'll be able to top and if I'm putting the scissors there, I don't want to make damage to the new small tips that will become the new tops...Exact where you wanna be! Time to FIM, TOP, or LST
Sincerely420
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Pffffff Master. Don't make my head any bigger than it already is lol. I'll be cutting all my t-shirts just to put them on haha!
The F.I.M cut has done me well so I won't tell you not to do it. Topping obviously produces a different result than F.I.M, and it recommended because you can do it over and over again. When I made the F.I.M cuts I went ahead and tied them over too.
Everytime you pull the highest part of the plant down, you confuse it so to speak. So you have to do it over and over(bringing the highest part down) again until you get the bush you want. At the very top of the plant is a concentration of a hormone called auxins which tells the plant to grow upward like an xmas tree.
When you clip that top at about 80%, it's called a F.I.M cut. After you do that you'll notice AT LEAST 4 new nodes have grown in all around that top I'd say about 3 days later at the max.These become flower sites in time! The plants stops focusing on growing up, ans starts focusing on growing out, and growing everything below that cut. Look up Auxins Perk. I might have said it before, but understand that word will put EVERYTHING into perspective for you.
When you clip that top completely off at the stem, it's called topping. This will guarantee you 2 new flower sites, but maybe 4. I went with the F.I.M because it guaranteed more flower sites according to what I've read.
You really don't have to make a cut at all tho. I haven't gotten a chance to try this way out yet, and I won't until another generation of growing, as I'm gonna top this time(multiple times). When you learn about auxins it will make clear to you why you don't have to make a F.I.M cut or top.
You just need to constantly bring the top down. BUT if you need more bush and to slow vertical growth, a F.I.M cut or a topping will help that for sure.
IT'S EXTREMELY EASY. DONT WORRY. Just do some reading before you chop chop. But I'm sure you'll be good.
Make sure you ONLY CLIP the new growth. You'll have to pull the smaller leaves that aren't growing with the tip from around them. THAT'S IMPORTANT(if F.I.Ming).
And just wait until it pokes out a little if you can get it. I had to do that with my White Widow.
Let me know before you cut and I might be able to post some screenshots of what I used.
A book called Growing Elite Marijuana pretty much
*edit and I'm only talking about the bigger of the two plants Perk.
The F.I.M cut has done me well so I won't tell you not to do it. Topping obviously produces a different result than F.I.M, and it recommended because you can do it over and over again. When I made the F.I.M cuts I went ahead and tied them over too.
Everytime you pull the highest part of the plant down, you confuse it so to speak. So you have to do it over and over(bringing the highest part down) again until you get the bush you want. At the very top of the plant is a concentration of a hormone called auxins which tells the plant to grow upward like an xmas tree.
When you clip that top at about 80%, it's called a F.I.M cut. After you do that you'll notice AT LEAST 4 new nodes have grown in all around that top I'd say about 3 days later at the max.These become flower sites in time! The plants stops focusing on growing up, ans starts focusing on growing out, and growing everything below that cut. Look up Auxins Perk. I might have said it before, but understand that word will put EVERYTHING into perspective for you.
When you clip that top completely off at the stem, it's called topping. This will guarantee you 2 new flower sites, but maybe 4. I went with the F.I.M because it guaranteed more flower sites according to what I've read.
You really don't have to make a cut at all tho. I haven't gotten a chance to try this way out yet, and I won't until another generation of growing, as I'm gonna top this time(multiple times). When you learn about auxins it will make clear to you why you don't have to make a F.I.M cut or top.
You just need to constantly bring the top down. BUT if you need more bush and to slow vertical growth, a F.I.M cut or a topping will help that for sure.
IT'S EXTREMELY EASY. DONT WORRY. Just do some reading before you chop chop. But I'm sure you'll be good.
Make sure you ONLY CLIP the new growth. You'll have to pull the smaller leaves that aren't growing with the tip from around them. THAT'S IMPORTANT(if F.I.Ming).
And just wait until it pokes out a little if you can get it. I had to do that with my White Widow.
Let me know before you cut and I might be able to post some screenshots of what I used.
A book called Growing Elite Marijuana pretty much
*edit and I'm only talking about the bigger of the two plants Perk.
RetiredMatthebrute
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what I would do (this is what i would do not suggesting you do it merly making convorsation and giving ideas)
i would top for 2 sites and leave it alone untill them 2 sites start growing good, then i would tie both sites right down to the rim of that pot. the tops are always going to try and grow upwards. when they grow out of the first tie down tie em down again....take each one and tie it down next to the other on the pot then start circling the rim of the pot in opposite directions. when they meet flip to flower. then i would undo all the tie downs about a week after the flip to let the tops stretch up.....you will have so many colas it will be unbelievable...
again im not suggesting you do this this is simple what i would do...
best of luck in whichever way you decide to go im sure you will be happy with the results.
i would top for 2 sites and leave it alone untill them 2 sites start growing good, then i would tie both sites right down to the rim of that pot. the tops are always going to try and grow upwards. when they grow out of the first tie down tie em down again....take each one and tie it down next to the other on the pot then start circling the rim of the pot in opposite directions. when they meet flip to flower. then i would undo all the tie downs about a week after the flip to let the tops stretch up.....you will have so many colas it will be unbelievable...
again im not suggesting you do this this is simple what i would do...
best of luck in whichever way you decide to go im sure you will be happy with the results.
perkele
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So...day 21 for the 1st one, important day, I've done something to her...don't know what and don't know if she liked it. We'll see how she will develop, I guess it was raping what I've done to it. Have a look.
This is before:
and this is after:
As per the small one, day 14 from seed, was a big day for her as well, I've changed her in a bigger pot. The roots were coming out of the small one and they were looking nice and healthy. Watered them both
So, I think what I've done for the first one it's F.I.M.ing, I really hope I've done it right. I was careful not to cut any new fan leaf, used a small nail scissors cleaned with alcohol wipes before using.
Now...back to the waiting game.
This is before:
and this is after:
As per the small one, day 14 from seed, was a big day for her as well, I've changed her in a bigger pot. The roots were coming out of the small one and they were looking nice and healthy. Watered them both
So, I think what I've done for the first one it's F.I.M.ing, I really hope I've done it right. I was careful not to cut any new fan leaf, used a small nail scissors cleaned with alcohol wipes before using.
Now...back to the waiting game.
RetiredMatthebrute
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looks good not sure what you did as im not familiar with the differences between topping and FIMM but it looks like you did the FIMM. when i top i usually cut lower than that just under the leaves you cut above. but like i said i dont know the difference LOL so maybe i FIMM and you topped....
anyways looks good, cant wait to see what grows out in next couple days
anyways looks good, cant wait to see what grows out in next couple days
Sincerely420
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Looks like a perfect F.I.M cut! You pulled the others leaves apart and took off about 80 of your apical bud!
for the next day or two there won't be much vertical growth but don't sweat that. You'll notice 4 little stubs will appear around that area you cut, and a few might pop up along the stem too, and turn into new branches. The plant thinks now that its been chopped off at the top, so it's gonna start growing new branches. Another marijuana survival tactic!
What also could happen like it did with one of my F.I.M cuts, is the area you cut continues to grow out and ends up like a huge half leaf. This is fine to tho...you'll still get the budsites...just a couple ugly leaves to boot. Give it a couple days and you'll see what's goin on! Nice Perk
for the next day or two there won't be much vertical growth but don't sweat that. You'll notice 4 little stubs will appear around that area you cut, and a few might pop up along the stem too, and turn into new branches. The plant thinks now that its been chopped off at the top, so it's gonna start growing new branches. Another marijuana survival tactic!
What also could happen like it did with one of my F.I.M cuts, is the area you cut continues to grow out and ends up like a huge half leaf. This is fine to tho...you'll still get the budsites...just a couple ugly leaves to boot. Give it a couple days and you'll see what's goin on! Nice Perk
perkele
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thanks for the encouragements! hope for the best. Once I'll see what will be the result of the FIM, I will plan for the LSTLooks like a perfect F.I.M cut! You pulled the others leaves apart and took off about 80 of your apical bud!
for the next day or two there won't be much vertical growth but don't sweat that. You'll notice 4 little stubs will appear around that area you cut, and a few might pop up along the stem too, and turn into new branches. The plant thinks now that its been chopped off at the top, so it's gonna start growing new branches. Another marijuana survival tactic!
What also could happen like it did with one of my F.I.M cuts, is the area you cut continues to grow out and ends up like a huge half leaf. This is fine to tho...you'll still get the budsites...just a couple ugly leaves to boot. Give it a couple days and you'll see what's goin on! Nice Perk
Sincerely420
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No prob Perk. I just F.I.M'd my Blue Widow and my White Widow for the second time! I'll let you know how it goes. I also tied them back down, which you should think about doing with the plant you just F.I.M'd. I took them from being tied down for two days so that the stems can heal(which they have), and they'd grown upwards maybe two inches....2 it was time to tie them back down...
I'm anxious to see how this second F.I.M cut works for me. I did it to stop that upward growth, let it's next gen of bud sites catch up to size, and hopefully bush my plant up even more. No telling how long I'll be vegging haha. Prolly till I can't resist anymore..
I'm anxious to see how this second F.I.M cut works for me. I did it to stop that upward growth, let it's next gen of bud sites catch up to size, and hopefully bush my plant up even more. No telling how long I'll be vegging haha. Prolly till I can't resist anymore..
perkele
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I am watching your journal, most interested i your techniques and I have a blue widow seed for the next grow so, I am most interested in what you are doing. I will tie down the plant but I will let it recover for 2-3 days first.No prob Perk. I just F.I.M'd my Blue Widow and my White Widow for the second time! I'll let you know how it goes. I also tied them back down, which you should think about doing with the plant you just F.I.M'd. I took them from being tied down for two days so that the stems can heal(which they have), and they'd grown upwards maybe two inches....2 it was time to tie them back down...
I'm anxious to see how this second F.I.M cut works for me. I did it to stop that upward growth, let it's next gen of bud sites catch up to size, and hopefully bush my plant up even more. No telling how long I'll be vegging haha. Prolly till I can't resist anymore..
perkele
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About the vegging, I don't know for how long I will keep them. I am on dry for couple of months now and I am consuming only what I am growing and no other place to get some...I think around 5-6 weeks, I'll see how she goes with this FIMing and soon some tying. Anyways...sure miss a good spliff 
and I have a long way until I'll get one from my girls. Thinking to visit Amsterdam when I'll cut them down and put them to cure...But still long way until then...
and I have a long way until I'll get one from my girls. Thinking to visit Amsterdam when I'll cut them down and put them to cure...But still long way until then...
RetiredMatthebrute
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what are the laws where your at regarding Marijuanna?
if they arent too strict head out to the local pub and ask around im sure you will be able to score a small bag to hold ya over for a bit and who knows might end up developing a connection. then you can give your ladies all the time they need
if they arent too strict head out to the local pub and ask around im sure you will be able to score a small bag to hold ya over for a bit and who knows might end up developing a connection. then you can give your ladies all the time they need
Sincerely420
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Yo I'm telling you! This right here -> . I feel like that ALREADY about wanting to flip to flower man! And I'm not or haven't been dry for a while now bro!
I can't imagine not smoking for 5-6w at this point haha. I would've been took that wall down head butting it haha.
And yessir we will see what she does after this second F.I.M cut.
And if you're gonna visit Holland fly to Dusseldorf, Germany and take the train over to Holland. Schipol has a flight tax which makes flying there like $300 more roundtrip, than flying to Germany. IDK if they've done away with the flight tax, but this was the case a couple years ago. I've been back and fourth 3 different time haha!
I used to love a Dutch girl..Thought I was never coming back to the states..It's funny the world spins
And don't just stay in Amsterdam..it's just a busy version of the whole country pretty much. There are nice shops everywhere yo.
Let me know when you start making plans and I'll point you in some directions. I've got a lot of Dutch friends everywhere over there, a couple American friends still living over there too. Not in Amsterdam, but surrounding cities. And go April 28-30. That the weekend the celebrate queens day and night..IT IS MORE INSANE THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER SEEN!
Constant partying EVERYWHERE. Everyone high and drunk and music everywhere...Fucking AYYYE man
. I feel like that ALREADY about wanting to flip to flower man! And I'm not or haven't been dry for a while now bro!I can't imagine not smoking for 5-6w at this point haha. I would've been took that wall down head butting it haha.
And yessir we will see what she does after this second F.I.M cut.
And if you're gonna visit Holland fly to Dusseldorf, Germany and take the train over to Holland. Schipol has a flight tax which makes flying there like $300 more roundtrip, than flying to Germany. IDK if they've done away with the flight tax, but this was the case a couple years ago. I've been back and fourth 3 different time haha!
I used to love a Dutch girl..Thought I was never coming back to the states..It's funny the world spins
And don't just stay in Amsterdam..it's just a busy version of the whole country pretty much. There are nice shops everywhere yo.
Let me know when you start making plans and I'll point you in some directions. I've got a lot of Dutch friends everywhere over there, a couple American friends still living over there too. Not in Amsterdam, but surrounding cities. And go April 28-30. That the weekend the celebrate queens day and night..IT IS MORE INSANE THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER SEEN!
Constant partying EVERYWHERE. Everyone high and drunk and music everywhere...Fucking AYYYE man
Sincerely420
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what are the laws where your at regarding Marijuanna?
if they arent too strict head out to the local pub and ask around im sure you will be able to score a small bag to hold ya over for a bit and who knows might end up developing a connection. then you can give your ladies all the time they need
Not too long ago a guy saw me pull out a wad and asked maybe 30 secs later if I knew where to find some bud...
I talked to him to feel him out...He told me he was from Cali and just moved here to NC. Said he had a med card and all this and showed me some paper..
He went on to try and prove to me he was a cop by opening his bag and showing me a bowl that he had...
I was simply watching a street performance downtown in mid day like the maybe 50 other ppl around the circle..Guy chose me..
I gave him a number and told him to call me...I don't know whose number I gave him, but I gave him a number and exited stage left...
And his bowl was nice and clean by the way..Only other time I see clean bowls are behind glass usually.
I say all that to say be careful what you wish for...I believe in the good of ppl..But my intellect keeps me at bay when my mind's astray
RetiredMatthebrute
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yeah man, well i wasnt suggesting head out to the bar and ask the first person that walks but but alot of times you go out have a few drinks and end up in covoo with someone, if it seems alright then i say go for it. what ya got to lose? i mean i would be asking him to get me a Oz and handing over 3-400 bucks but a couple grams if you lose out on 20-30 bucks then it is what it is. thats also why i asked how the laws were there, its decriminalized where im at and up to a Oz is a civil violation which consists of a small fine like a speeding ticket.
yeah theres risks but whats life without risks? obviously you want to watch your own back and only take enough risk that your willing to deal with the consecuences. if weed is a felony offense there i wouldnt bother.
yeah theres risks but whats life without risks? obviously you want to watch your own back and only take enough risk that your willing to deal with the consecuences. if weed is a felony offense there i wouldnt bother.
perkele
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don't know about the laws, but it's illegal. I used to live in the UK for a while, in Liverpool. Now thous guys were very relaxed. They had couple of nice pubs with outside garden and everybody was sharing everything. Good people. But I had to move over the sea in the left, where they make good black beer and it's always raining and here, haven't seen or heard anyone about anything and I don't know how strict they are. Christian country, so christian strict laws I am guessing.what are the laws where your at regarding Marijuanna?
if they arent too strict head out to the local pub and ask around im sure you will be able to score a small bag to hold ya over for a bit and who knows might end up developing a connection. then you can give your ladies all the time they need