Opana Report

[canndo]

So I went ahead today, figuring that my tolerance from everything else must have come down somewhat and, well, it's a Saturday.

I applied the common rendering of plasticiced matrix by heating the pill up (perhaps a bit too much i'm afraid - no smoke but the resulting pellet of white plastic grew yellowish brown in spots). I mixed it with some sucrose and scored it while it was still warm as much as I was able - not very well and so I was left with rubbery chunks of pink. I ran that through a grinder and got about a quarter of it to the point where I thought it might be effective - I tested a bit in some water and sure enough that clotty, sticky conglomeration was not in evidence.


So I snorted what must be the equivilent of about 5 mg oxymophone. The resulting high was a bit more than i expected, heavy on the body rushes, a little more on the nod than I like and I would equate it to about 25 or 30 mg of oxycodone. there seem to be some effects that are distinctive and enjoyable with some clairty and some euphoria but not nearly what I would expect from a substance that is supposed to be the most sought after of all of the pharma-compounds.


The bioavailability of this stuff is supposed to be very very low oraly - so I figure if it comes in 8 hour extended release tabs with only 20 mg total, the doseage rate is about 2.25 mg per hour. Figure the bioavailabilty renders it to one tenth of that or .225 per hour it must be very strong indeed. Considering that nasal availability is 50 percent I should have gotten the instant oral equivlent of 2.5 mg - quite a significant dose for a tolerance free individual (I don't know if I am there yet however). If my calcuations are correct then my reaction to this stuff is - Eh, nothing I wouldn't trade a couple of hydrocodone or a half a dilaudid 8 for.


Anyway, I thought you all would like to know. I will likely do the same thing with the other pill and perhaps use half of it at once in order to experience whatever qualitiative differences there are between this "oxy" and any other.

 

[canndo]

Oh, the timerX matrix is very different than the one used in oxycontin and not nearly as easy to manage. There are a list of purely chemical methods of extraction but unless I am armed with a handful of pills I see little use in working such extractions presuming a loss rate that is probably high enough to leave me with 15 mg of the original 20 using one pill. I figure I would lose about the same with 5 pills, making the proceedure acceptable. This way I lose nothing at all exept what I may have vaporized.

 

[Skuxx]

I think they grow on you the more you do them. My first experience with opana was a bad one.... sitting there with a puke bucket in front of my face (and 5 others in the room doing the same) for hours.... But.... after I developed a huge oxy habit for a while, and after doing opana's more and more.... they became the greatest things ever (up the nose at least)

your descriptions of heavy body rushes, more on the nod side than most, and slight euphoria are pretty much what I experience. It also causes a lot more nausea than most opiates. Especially if you overdo it.

 

[canndo]

I think they grow on you the more you do them. My first experience with opana was a bad one.... sitting there with a puke bucket in front of my face (and 5 others in the room doing the same) for hours.... But.... after I developed a huge oxy habit for a while, and after doing opana's more and more.... they became the greatest things ever (up the nose at least)

your descriptions of heavy body rushes, more on the nod side than most, and slight euphoria are pretty much what I experience. It also causes a lot more nausea than most opiates. Especially if you overdo it.

I was surprised at the nasea induced with dilaudid. Not me, I made a mistake with my wife who trusts me implcitly when it comes to dose I gave her about 4 mg and after half an hour she said she felt nothing. there is only one true waste when it comes to drugs and that is giving someone a drug and their not feeling it - and so i gave her another 2 mg - unthinking (as I had just taken 8 myself) I didn't count down the time for her and after she said she still felt nothing, I gave her another 2 mg. In a matter of minutes she said "I think I got too much" I was ready to pack her off to the hospital and considered exactly how much she had injested. She must have just come on to the previous 2when i gave her the other bump. Normaly - and this was a long time ago - we would do some poppy tea and find ourselves to the point of being sick. A trip to the bathroom and a good purge made the nausea go away resulting in a larger dose than we had antcipated but no more sickness. In the case of the dilaudid, no amount of puking would aleviate the sickness. The poor woman was miserable for 5 hours.


I have found something else interesting about being sick on opiates. If I am not careful, I can place myself in a nice state, just where I want to be - no nod, just a warm glow and a little far off wash of goodness, but should i fire up a reasonably strong cigar,within minutes of finishing the smoke, I will be sick - ruining the buzz and the cigar for over an hour.


Ever happen to you?

 

[MrEDuck]

I'm not surprised its a little underwhelming when not injected. Look at dilaudid, it's kinda meh orally or insufflated but it's one of the most enjoyable shots.

 

[canndo]

A strange thing happened after I wrote this. I laid out a tiny line of some of the "dust" and snorted it, I had been telling my wife that it wasn't all that good, after 10 or 15 minutes I could no longer carry on a cogent conversation.


I waited for several hours and tried HALF that amount - there was that tiny, very pleasurable rush, soothing, envigorating, caressing stimulation. It lasted maybe half an hour and then back to the nod. throughout the course of the evening I put out the non-dust, the particles that I could not reduce and I am talking about minute "lines". couldn't have been more than 6 milligrams each - matrix, sucrose, and whatever that stuff is that the pills are coated with. There was a truely infinitessimal amount of the active ingedient and each time I and my wife felt that 15 minutes to half hour caress and then this almost incoherent sort of nod, where I could not complete sentences that I started - simple ones that, when I attempted, made no real sense at all.


There are some sensualy and sexualy stimulating aspects to this stuff and my wife and I had leasurely sex for three or four hours deep into the night - not bad for a 60 year old! (course part of the deal is that my wife and I have been moving iron around the gym for the last 5 months)

All the while I marveled at the truely tiny amounts we were using and I decided to save what was left for the next morning.

We woke up refreshed, no hang over, a little bit of half decaff after a tooth brushing session and we snorted what was left. I suppose that there was roughly one third of the original pill left in pink rubbery flakes. This was perhaps 5 times the doses we had been alloting ourselves over the evening.

I figured, with a fresh head and a clear morning it would feel wonderful and we were prepared for the incoherency after the fact. I was still marveling at how very long this one little pill lasted the two of us, far beyond anything else I had ever had.


Well, that was several hours ago - nothing, zip, not even a hint of feeling.


How very strange. Now I think I am going to mix up a few coffee drinks and stoke up the fire - no opiate sunday for this household.

 

[MrEDuck]

Going for 3-4 hours on opioids isn't an accomplishment, cumming is!

 

[2fast92]

Whenever I'm on a high dose of opiates and I smoke nicotine I get REALLY sick almost immediately. It's weird, idk why either. I always wanna smoke when I'm high too and I can't because of that.

Also, say I took a large dose of hydrocodone (75mg no APAP) on Sunday, when could I dose again around 50mg with almost full effects? How many more days would I have to wait is what I mean to ask. Thanks.

 

[2fast92]

Plus rep. Thanks, so I'll take the rest of my stash tomorrow after 3 1/2 days. i think I'll take it when I go fishing.

Idk, getting that fucked up off cigs while on opiates has never happened until last time I took em. Unless I'm on Suboxone, that shit get's me every time.

 

[canndo]

Going for 3-4 hours on opioids isn't an accomplishment, cumming is!

And that is the point. Makes it look like you are giving up the spike in the interest of a warm interlude with your woman. Of course depending on the dosage I can manage to finish but it isn't worth the effort. Not the issue, the intimacy, the talking, the posistions, the slickness and sensuality is well worth the time. WE always come away with a new intimacy - and the orgasms tend to be recvered a day or so later.

 

[2fast92]

Nah Ima just sell it so I don't take it.

 

[canndo]

More Opana info



Buddy gave me 6 10's since he opted to go in another pain killing direction. I can't figure his doctors out - the poor guy has a hernia that was deemed not worth the risk in fixing, he has back problems as a result and he has a colostomy bag that I guess gives one constant pain and they keep swapping out his meds even though he was perfectly fine with his original 20 mg oxycontin and norco for breakthrough.

So wife and I experimented with this stuff over 3 days - not ever wise but the high is so elusive and it seems to keep us awake long into the night no matter when we stopped taking it.

Anyway - I figured out a good way of defeating the Timerx matrix with only a sniffle or two of pink drops on the tissue.


Not the point. Opiate fasts are important. I went on one after that stupid fentanyl excursion and I still have not been right since. I won't touch any of my stash of other things because it will be a huge waste and times are tough for the itinerant pill enthusiast. But BOY am I depressed, just sad about everything, listless, and jonesing for whatever I got in my collection. it isn't your standard craving, it isn't boredom, it isn't any kind of standard withdrawal it is a cold wet stone on my emotions, what's the point, why do anything buy lay in bed? screw the projects they aren't working anyway, hell, this cigar - one of my favorites, a gem of gems in a cache I recently posted pictures of tastes like drab dirt.

I've been managing an opiate flavored existence for 25 years and it has always served me well, careful careful careful, joyous, exhilerating, fun. Now though, more and more of my friends are subject to age, they get out of hospitals with vials the contents they are always willing to share and my stash grows but this stuff?


Is this sort of depression typical of curtailing short term use of oxymorphone? We are only talking about 10 mg per day for 3 days

 

[Mookjong]

I bought 5 opana 40's and cut them in 4th's. I would blow a 10mg line about ever 3-4 hours. I found that after about 4 hours, withdraws where high and mood was low.

I also found that eating opana to be weaker than eating oxycodone. But when I snorted opana it seemed to be a lot stronger than the oxycodone. Is your experience similiar? I know you touched on this a bit. Im just going by my own experience.

 

[canndo]

A lot stronger yes

 

[canndo]

I think they grow on you the more you do them. My first experience with opana was a bad one.... sitting there with a puke bucket in front of my face (and 5 others in the room doing the same) for hours.... But.... after I developed a huge oxy habit for a while, and after doing opana's more and more.... they became the greatest things ever (up the nose at least)

your descriptions of heavy body rushes, more on the nod side than most, and slight euphoria are pretty much what I experience. It also causes a lot more nausea than most opiates. Especially if you overdo it.

They do grow on you - plenty - I aquired a handful of them and found that they have an upper component, they tend to keep me awake and alert. Finisihing snorting one at 4 in the afternoon resulted in my staying up in a pleansant opioid clarity until about 1, and this was not a single occurance. It doesnt' seem to mix with other things very well, every other opiate tending to drown out the subtleties of the opana - and there is that matrix which is really hit or miss. The process leaves a fine powder and some flakes. I will do the fine powder one time and feel only a small rush and an hour later find myself very high. I will do some of those nasty flakes and get an intsant reaction - and of course I don't know how much of the chemical I am getting into my system immediately - i suspect that at least a part of the chemical lingers and gets into my system at a far slower rate.


My experience with modern opiates, as is my hobby has me rate from best to worse the ones I've taken thusly


Morphine
Hydrocodone
Hydromorphone
oxymorphone
oxycodone
Fentanyl


Opium would come just after morphine but i didn't want to put it in there as they are are pharma chems.

 

[rory420420]

Opiates as a hobby? Didn't see that on the sign up sheet at 4-h camp..lol

 

[Gonenowhere]

"Is this sort of depression typical of curtailing short term use of oxymorphone? We are only talking about 10 mg per day for 3 days"
-canndo

This is 100% the way I felt. I Have never felt the way I do from opiate withdrawal as I did with oxymorphone. I Just felt empty and that something was missing. I am almost glad the connection dropped.