Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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PJ Diaz

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akula said:
keebo3000 said:
the plant puts it energy to making new fan leaves after first cut 21 days into flower.... it still grows it just shortens space between nodes, my observation from my grow.
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Of course it puts energy into growing new leaves, you cut them off and new ones appear. But what is the logic behind your shortened node theory?
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Dude, you made the theory and put it in someone else's name and ran with it. Wtf?
 
PJ Diaz

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Uncle Ben said:
Yep, I'd say DiAss is being a tad bit ignorant when it comes to plant processes. I mean when this guy is more worried about a plant stretching than keeping it green and healthy, it oughta tell ya something. Someone has their priorities a bit fucked up. It also suggests that he thinks high N foods induce stretch. They don't, details follow.

Two things that induce long internodes outside the normal early flowering phase or sativa genes is very low light which is usually a moot point for this discussion as the light is above the canopy (the lower part of the plant has lignified somewhat and is through undergoing cell division and elongation) and use of high P foods, aka Bloom Foods. IOW, you guys having a love affair with your cannabis specific bloom foods are again shittin' in yo mess cans. Read it and weep - http://www.gpnmag.com/what-really-causes-stretch

So, a plant will be a happy plant with a more balanced NPK value, also helps to read your plants and understand what they are telling you.

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So if you keep a mother plant around with 40watts of flouro strip you don't worry about it stretching? The top will be fine of course, but it will have to be a small mother or lst'd down.
 
PJ Diaz

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The reason I wasn't worried about it staying green vs stretch is because I agreed that it would stay green. My plant leaves are green till harvest.
I understand you really want to find fault in me, but don't rush to false judgements too quick. I'm not the bloom foods lover you describe, and btw Dyna-Gro Foilage-Pro is something I use until a week before harvest. Don't speak of what you don't know. It only makes you look a fool.
 
Kite High

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PJ Diaz said:
The reason I wasn't worried about it staying green vs stretch is because I agreed that it would stay green. My plant leaves are green till harvest.
I understand you really want to find fault in me, but don't rush to false judgements too quick. I'm not the bloom foods lover you describe, and btw Dyna-Gro Foilage-Pro is something I use until a week before harvest. Don't speak of what you don't know. It only makes you look a fool.
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I love Foliage pro...also like to throw them a lil Jacks acid special from time to time...not even FP greens like Jacks IMO
 
akula

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PJ Diaz said:
No.

I wasn't talking about defoliation at all. Maybe you should read what I quoted and what I responded to, and then reference my response in relation to that. That's how language and stuff works.

I was saying that if I used a 40w shop light to keep mothers I would he more concerned with unneeded stretch (regardless of leaf removal practices or not..) than I would be concerned with keeping the leaves green. That seems like the bigger issue in that scenario.

Do you understand now? Are we clear? Should I say it another way?
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Dude you really need to keep up with topic at hand. We are discussing defoliation here. Nobody gives a rat's ass if there is some stretching in you damn vegging mothers, they are constantly being pruned. Honestly WTF. Maybe you forgot your riddlin or something, but your random off topic tangents sure seem like trolling at times.

Hey light penetrates foliage shown here in in this example.....hey squirrel...stretching...dadadadada.
 
akula

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PJ Diaz said:
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Maybe you should keep up. We've been talking all kinds of off topic stuff. I don't keep mothers, so fine, I don't know.. Are you happy now? I made a very simple statement regarding low light levels and you ran with it. Grow Up dude.
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I don't care what random topics have been here on this thread, I'm talking about what slab and I were talking about...when you interjected some random thought...about something you don't even have any damn experience in as it turns out. And you tell me to grow up? Stop trolling dude, it's getting old.
 
akula

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And as for your edited comment, I have had only two problems with you. Both times you jumped my shit for no reason. Maybe your hate for UB has clouded your judgment, because it sure seems like you are nothing but a troll at times.
 
Bud Brewer

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I didn't get much stretch but I veged them to a large size also helps minimize stretch defoliation does make for tighter nodes these are pictures of some tight plants that needs to stretch some it is to dense.
Notice how the 1000 watt light doesn't go thru the plant in third and fourth pic defoliation makes dense plants if done a few times in veg.
 

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PJ Diaz

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akula said:
And as for your edited comment, I have had only two problems with you. Both times you jumped my shit for no reason. Maybe your hate for UB has clouded your judgment, because it sure seems like you are nothing but a troll at times.
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Who's the troll in this thread anyway? The guy who has tried defoliation and reported back with results, or the guy who dismisses it without any experience on the matter? Why are you still here again?
 
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Bud Brewer said:
I didn't get much stretch but I veged them to a large size also helps minimize stretch defoliation does make for tighter nodes these are pictures of some tight plants that needs to stretch some it is to dense.
Notice how the 1000 watt light doesn't go thru the plant in third and fourth pic defoliation makes dense plants if done a few times in veg.
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fan leaves block the light, remove or cut the ones covering the nodes upto the 2 week in flower
worked for me organic soil grow

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Bud Brewer

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That's a nice defoliated bitch.

Did you defoliate after the first two weeks?

I have two weeks to go I'm going to defoliate again I did it 5 times in veg then 3 weeks into flower.
 
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thanks bud brewer
I leave the plant after the 2nd or 3rd week in flower (depends on how the plant looks) as it needs its leaves at this stage and removing them will stress the plant and reduce the yeild imo
I use selective defoliate to get the plant bushy, control the streching in flower and get lots of bud sites :)
 
kinetic

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People get so uppidy like ub is saying you can't grow with defoilization, what he's saying it limits your yields and potential.
 
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