When to initiate the "flush"??
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racerboy71
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i usually wait till i take a number two, saves water that way.. 
Murphio
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Hahaha😆 smart ass!i usually wait till i take a number two, saves water that way..
Rancho Cucamonga
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I never wait for amber, I avoid amber if at all possible, it's degraded THC. Good for some medical treatments but not the greatest "let's get high" weed.
I harvest as close as one can get to 100% cloudy. Trichomes continue to mature in dry.
As for when to flush you gotta kinda know your plants, the more grows you do the easier it will get. I use the breeders recommendations for flower time, BUT, I count day 1 of flower from "the first signs of white pistils" not 12/12 switch. So near the flowering times recommendations, or a few weeks before that actually, I begin to scope the trichomes out to see their progress. Once I see mostly cloudy and I'm at or very near the recommended flowering time, I begin flush. Water only, first watering is a full flush, if using 5 gallon pots I flush with 5 gallons of water, then just a watering or two after initial flush then I chop a few days after last watering.
Some don't flush at all some flush for three weeks or more. I've tried em all and a simple 5-10 days of just waterings works best for me.
I harvest as close as one can get to 100% cloudy. Trichomes continue to mature in dry.
As for when to flush you gotta kinda know your plants, the more grows you do the easier it will get. I use the breeders recommendations for flower time, BUT, I count day 1 of flower from "the first signs of white pistils" not 12/12 switch. So near the flowering times recommendations, or a few weeks before that actually, I begin to scope the trichomes out to see their progress. Once I see mostly cloudy and I'm at or very near the recommended flowering time, I begin flush. Water only, first watering is a full flush, if using 5 gallon pots I flush with 5 gallons of water, then just a watering or two after initial flush then I chop a few days after last watering.
Some don't flush at all some flush for three weeks or more. I've tried em all and a simple 5-10 days of just waterings works best for me.
ilikecheetoes
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theres no toilet in my growroom. hence no flushing. I was once Flushed with joy at the sight of my room though.
akula
Active Member
Yes amber is degraded THC and provides more of an ill feeling then anything else but I cannot figure out one medical treatment that it would be good for and I am a patient grower.
But I agree that the closest you can get to 100% cloudy should be your goal.
Murphio
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How do you get 100% cloudy without any amber? It seems with the experience I have that the trichs are always at different maturities. While I patiently wait for the last 15% or so of the clear to cloud, then the oldest 10% of the cloudy start to amber...that sounded confusing, but I hope it made some sense. At harvest my trichs are usually: 10% clear; 80% cloudy; 10% amber. Should I be harvesting a little sooner?
Rancho Cucamonga
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I have no clue if or how more amber trichs would benefit medical more, it's just info I've read many times. From experience it's just more of a heavier(body) high which I do not like. I'm guessing amber contains more pain relieving power, CBD? I just don't know.
Here is something from a pharma about CBD, but I have no clue if amber trichs carry a higher percentage of it or not.
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CBD (Cannabidiol). It is one of approximately 70 Cannabinoids, the most well known being THC. CBD is an amazing compound, it can be used to treat chronic pain, anxiety and other mood disorders, as well as being a neuro-protectant and a very promising anti-cancer drug. CBD’s value in treating chronic pain is enhanced over THC because it is non-psychoactive.
CBD works against pain primarily in the peripheral nervous system. It does not work like typical pain meds by effecting the central nervous system; it works at the neuro-synapse. When we sustain injuries, often the pain is acute and disappears completely. Other times we have persistent or intermittent pain, however, with many disorders the pain is either part of the underlying problem itself (Multiple Sclerosis, Rheumatoid Disease, etc ) or the pain becomes a syndrome of it’s own. In other words, the pain takes on a life of it’s own and is now crippling the patient.
In a recent Scientific American article, chronic pain and CBD's are discussed citing when an injury takes place, increased Glial cell production forms around the neuro junctions. These Glial cells produce Cytokines which are chemical transmitters spreading inflammation and signaling pain. When a molecule of CBD binds to the Glial cell, the cytokine production decreases and the patient feels a marked decrease in pain. This would also explain why some patients have pain relief that lasts way beyond the theoretical effect of the CBD."
Rancho Cucamonga
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I've done it many times. Now admittedly I have no clue if there is some small percentage of amber somewhere on a plant where I've scoped only cloudy and a tiny amounts of clear, but more then not I will have either no or very little amber with a very low percentage of clear.
To be more realistic, I shoot for 90% cloudy, the other 10% can be any combo of amber or clear.
I think your 80% cloudy, 10% clear, 10% amber is just fine and even more realistic then my 90% or impossible 100% cloudy. Do you get blasted? That's the real question. It's all personal preference. I've allowed some strains to go over and turn 20%+ amber and I, and the majority of those smoking my weed mostly dislike it compared to the same strains with less or no amber.
I've done the same with more clear trichomes and that's even worse.
akula
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THC does not breakdown into CBD it breaks down into CBN see the chart here:
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CBN is a by product of THC and is not known as having in medicinal uses that I know of. I have heard that is causes a ill like feeling enough is ingested. The only thing I can think of this as being medicinal is that if most of the THC is degraded into CBN, the other medicinal cannaboids (CBD, CBC etc) effects will be that much more noticeable.