Cop murderer believes in gun control

[abandonconflict]

LOL, do you believe the shit you spew? Anarchist don't support authoritarian candidates like Obama. You have to have government to regulate the markets with your goofy philosophy. People can protect their own private property as long as we don't have a bunch of mindless weirdos trying to restrict our right to do so.

I voted for Jill Stein. You clearly don't know what my philosophy is or think that I espouse views which I clearly do not. I preferred Obama to Romney. I never "supported Obama".

 

[lifegoesonbrah]

I voted for Jill Stein. You clearly don't know what my philosophy is or think that I espouse views which I clearly do not. I preferred Obama to Romney. I never "supported Obama".

Are you kidding me? You were on here raving about him for months. Any libertarian would not support Obama or Romney and realize that they are the same on the important issues.

 

[abandonconflict]

Are you kidding me? You were on here raving about him for months. Any libertarian would not support Obama or Romney and realize that they are the same on the important issues.

You're not a libertarian or an anarchist. I agree both Romney and Obama are right wing, but Rawn Pawl is even further right. I did not "rave", actually, I didn't even lie. I told truths about Obama.

 

[Doer]

I'm an anarchist. I don't argue pro gov't. However, since you mention confusion, your "free-market" philosophy requires a state to protect property. That makes you the statist.

A Utopian with libertarian leanings, remember? Or did you re-revise? We were talking about anarchists before. Not jamming you. I'm interested in all viewpoints that can be explained and, yes, questioned, for clarity, etc.

Defending views is tiresome, I think. A Statist? Tell me more. Please explain.

Is it that one does not need a State when there is no Private Property? Tell me. I'm listening.

 

[abandonconflict]

Tell me more. Please explain.

It goes against my views to push. I challenge. I have pushed before and regretted. I only challenge views now. I do have opinions, just keep them to myself and willing to abandon them if they do not withstand challenge.

 

[cleverpiggy]

Just another American Government false flag.....

 

[Doer]

But, when challenged? I don't think you are pushing. I'm asking. What does it mean? I want to know. You could say.

Does it mean, everyone can and should protect their property without a State?

 

[abandonconflict]

But, when challenged? I don't think you are pushing. I'm asking. What does it mean? I want to know. You could say.

I agree with libertarian socialism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

Above all, I feel that all authority has the burden of proof (to be valid) and should be eliminated if said burden can not be met.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Yes, for his name...which is now shit on toast.. Good job.

So, the time line is interesting. He just found a few days ago that, not only does he not get his security clearance back, re-instated to Command at Fallon, he is cashiered, DDed, from the Navy Reserves, the last straw.

Now he has either already killed himself as the induced psychosis of the stressor wore off; or he is the real deal on a mission of death. As understand a little about it, a serial killer is one for who the psychosis never stops. He says he is willingly taking the mantle of Cop Killer.

LA basin hosts a few serial killers already. I hope it's not one more. LAPD is already on the phreaky edge.

SPREE killer.

serial killers are methodical, and prefer a particular MO for their crimes

spree killers are dinbats who "snap" and go all Michael Douglas in Falling Down on their imagined foes. spree killings usually end in a Blaze of Glory within a day (klebold & harris et al, 1999) or within the week (A. Cunanan 1997).

serial killers can keep killing for decades.

 

[echelon1k1]

SPREE killer.

serial killers are methodical, and prefer a particular MO for their crimes

spree killers are dinbats who "snap" and go all Michael Douglas in Falling Down on their imagined foes. spree killings usually end in a Blaze of Glory within a day (klebold & harris et al, 1999) or within the week (A. Cunanan 1997).

serial killers can keep killing for decades.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder/serial-murder-1#two

Disorganized serial killers have no methodology

 

[Dr Kynes]

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder/serial-murder-1#two

Disorganized serial killers have no methodology

serial murder is defined by the continuity between murders, whether those are the victim profile, the method of murder, the method of disposal of the bodies and/or the "signature" of the killer

spree killers are generally indiscriminate about their victims, choosing targets of opportunity rather than carefully chosen victims from a profile which may be obvious only to the killer himself.

"disorganized serial killers" is oxymoronic, as the care discrimination and organization of the serial killer's crime is paramount, while spree killers tend to choose targets randomly with little interest in how they fit into the killer's delusions. spree killers often target an entire class of persons sometimes arbitrarily, eg: everybody around this clock tower, everyone in this school, any black person i meet, etc...

then theres just plain multiple murderers, like tookie williams, who murdered for profit and sport, with no interest in the victim save that tookie had the advantage on them and thus was able to kill them with impugnity. anyone falling into tookie's power was as likely or not to be his next victim, but he had no internal motivation of delusional justification that would allow him to be classed as a spree killer, he was just an asshole.

psychology and psychiatry deal with each of these types of killers differently in profiling, as well as classification. your citation of the fbi's law enforcement perspective is irrelevant, and also disingenuous since pursuing a spree killer (like andrew cunanan) is just a manhunt, while a real dyed in the wool serial killer like richard ramirez can require years of painstaking investigation just to uncover the extent of his crimes, much less the identity of the killer.

 

[echelon1k1]

serial murder is defined by the continuity between murders, whether those are the victim profile, the method of murder, the method of disposal of the bodies and/or the "signature" of the killer

spree killers are generally indiscriminate about their victims, choosing targets of opportunity rather than carefully chosen victims from a profile which may be obvious only to the killer himself.

"disorganized serial killers" is oxymoronic, as the care discrimination and organization of the serial killer's crime is paramount, while spree killers tend to choose targets randomly with little interest in how they fit into the killer's delusions. spree killers often target an entire class of persons sometimes arbitrarily, eg: everybody around this clock tower, everyone in this school, any black person i meet, etc...

then theres just plain multiple murderers, like tookie williams, who murdered for profit and sport, with no interest in the victim save that tookie had the advantage on them and thus was able to kill them with impugnity. anyone falling into tookie's power was as likely or not to be his next victim, but he had no internal motivation of delusional justification that would allow him to be classed as a spree killer, he was just an asshole.

psychology and psychiatry deal with each of these types of killers differently in profiling, as well as classification. your citation of the fbi's law enforcement perspective is irrelevant, and also disingenuous since pursuing a spree killer (like andrew cunanan) is just a manhunt, while a real dyed in the wool serial killer like richard ramirez can require years of painstaking investigation just to uncover the extent of his crimes, much less the identity of the killer.

your assertion "serial killers are methodical" is nothing more than a uninformed generalisation. The Feeb define serial killers in the following categories; Medical, organised & disorganised. I just wanted to clarify that as you may have overlooked it...

 

[UncleBuck]

If we wanted a truly safe and fair society we would confiscate the pens from the legislators..

you sound all butthurt, sistah.

 

[Figong]

Of course he believes in gun control.. he's content running around with Barret .50 and various other models of well.. death - there's no way around that given the scores he's put up over the course of his career in terms of military and proficiency with firearms... and is ultimately a beast that the United States Govt/Military cultured/vetted/trained.. and then lost 'positive control' of. I wish them luck with this one, after reading his full interview that he did with KTLA.. he has nothing to lose, and will continue this until he's dead, or his name is cleared.

 

[Doer]

SPREE killer.

serial killers are methodical, and prefer a particular MO for their crimes

spree killers are dinbats who "snap" and go all Michael Douglas in Falling Down on their imagined foes. spree killings usually end in a Blaze of Glory within a day (klebold & harris et al, 1999) or within the week (A. Cunanan 1997).

serial killers can keep killing for decades.

So far, the jury is out. I just heard there is a new entry on his Facebook. I think he slipped the noose. Had it planned for a few years now. I'm not sure if this is just a spree, yet.

He may circle back, or he may wait for the heat to die down and execute the plan.

And btw, there is target list and it is a rich environment as he says himself. Not random.

 

[Dr Kynes]

So far, the jury is out. I just heard there is a new entry on his Facebook. I think he slipped the noose. Had it planned for a few years now. I'm not sure if this is just a spree, yet.

He may circle back, or he may wait for the heat to die down and execute the plan.

And btw, there is target list and it is a rich environment as he says himself. Not random.

it's not the victim list, serial killers dont generally make victim lists. thats the province of spree killers and their rage motivation.

just like the prototypical spree killer, dorner has a specific (but somewhat irrational) anger driven butthurt against a particular class of people and has placed them on his shit list.
he may well kill others, but only in furtherance of his main goal, which is venting his spleen on those he (bizarrely) believes are responsible for his troubles.

Seung Hui Cho (high score record holder, rookie of the year 2007, and dual-weild gold medalist) vented his spleen on the students and faculty of Virginia tech based on his ExXTRemE TerMinaL BuTThUrT! over his lack of social acceptance and a really wacky case of the senior blues.

Andy Cunanan (Rookie of the Year 1997, Model/Assassin Of The Year Slashie Award winner 1997, All Terrain Distance Record Holder) vented his spleen on well, pretty much everybody he met once he flipped the crazy switch, but with one overriding drive, to find and kill Gianni Versace. mission accomplished. good night sweet prince. and you too gianni.

i could go on, but you see the common thread right? rage - crazy - violence - spree -self checkout with a 9mm trepanation
serial killers generally go: disturbingly crazy - deranged murder - long period with no apparent crazy - oops, bad moon rising again, time to sharpen the chainsaw... - long period of no apparent crazy - my neighbor's dog is telling me to kill again...

 

[Dr Kynes]

your assertion "serial killers are methodical" is nothing more than a uninformed generalisation. The Feeb define serial killers in the following categories; Medical, organised & disorganised. I just wanted to clarify that as you may have overlooked it...

your invocation of the FBI's meaningless categories are irrelevant (as usual) since the FBI and the DOJ (their parent organization) also classify weed as a "dangerous narcotic", and international gun smuggling as "not a crime when WE do it"

prattle on lil shaver. some day youll be a real boy.

 

[Figong]

I still wonder how the medical classification for serial killing doesn't fall as a sub-category under Organized.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

both these clows present themselves as experts on firearms, firearms law, the constitution (which both swore to uphold but neither has apparently ever read) and make the case for banning magazines over ten rounds so "cops arent outgunned"

Behold the magical power that is, The Clow!

 

[echelon1k1]

your invocation of the FBI's meaningless categories are irrelevant (as usual) since the FBI and the DOJ (their parent organization) also classify weed as a "dangerous narcotic", and international gun smuggling as "not a crime when WE do it"

prattle on lil shaver. some day youll be a real boy.

Keep on with your epic butthurt about the gubmints karmic repossession... Your use of "Prestigious Jargon" only serves to reinforce you ignorance on many issues.

How'd you escape Waco unharmed? (physically I mean - mentally you're a lost cause)

So you care to elaborate on your fallacious generalisation;

serial killers are methodical, and prefer a particular MO for their crimes

So are all serial killers methodical? Please keep you answer on-point as you have a tendancy to "wank on" Ad Ignorantium