Vegans, Vegetarians, a few questions..

Padawanbater2

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Why are you a vegan/vegetarian?

Is it equally as healthy as an omnivore diet?

What does your main diet consist of?

How do you feel throughout an average day?

Is it more/less expensive, or relatively consistent with an average diet?

Do you grow your own food or buy locally?

 

sunni

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Ill take a stab and answer them + put in my own info ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ABOUT MEAT OR MEAT INDUSTRY WILL BE REFEREED TO SUPERMARKET PRODUCES, NOT LOCALLY GROWN, NOT FROM AMISH FARMERS ONLY FROM YOUR GROCERY STORE OR SUPERMARKET.

1. I am a vegan because vegetarian is half assing it if you're doing it for the animals and also for health reasons as cheese and milk are HIGH in calories , eggs are high in cholesterol (the supermarket version), and fish feel pain

2. I recently became vegan, with no in between my doctor took tests before and after I am beyond healthier then I was and I always ate the right food as a omnivore I was never an unhealthy eater, but everyone of my tests proved a better decline or incline of anything in my body so I would say its more healthy then a omnivore diet, any doctor would tell you it is, a plant based diet is the way to go if you want to be healthier there are plenty of studies on this, There is a lack of misinformed information that Vegans do not get enough protien,calicum, ect because we are fed by the industry to believe we NEED meat and its the ONLY way to get protiens , and that dairy is the ONLY source of calcium. The average meat eaters cholesterol is 210 and the average vegans is 133. We are 40% less likely to have cancer.

3. My main diet will be fruit for breakfast (this is what i ate on a omnivoire diet though) and black coffee & a cup of water, I'll have an apple for a snack generally at work or carrot sticks & water, during the day with a handful of almonds or brazil nuts, then lunch is generally something quick if im at work, so a salad, i packed which includes hemp hearts or chia seeds and ill have a meat substitution generally like a gardinas chipoltle lime fingers or something & water, ill come home, prepare/ make dinner and if i didnt walk to or back from work ill work out right before,I will do whatever I am in the mood food though, red lentil soup, or , wraps, or, tofu and veggies, the ideas are endless, sometimes I'll have an evening snack , weather it be cookies, or a piece of chocolate, or hummas and veggies I can assure you I dont lack in any protein,iron or calcium or any other nutrient during the day

4. I feel FAN FUCKING TASTIC! thanks for asking, while I realize this isnt a lifestyle for everyone, I have yet to slip up and eat meat or cheese and I feel great which is why I know its the right choice FOR ME. I feel good on the inside,

5. I'd say infact its cheaper, or just breaking even to what I spent before. The fruits and veg are cheap enough its the seeds that tend to be pricey. Almond/soy/rice milk is cheaper, earth balance(vegan butter) is about the same as real butter its when you get into the prepacked, RAW VEGAN CHOCOLATE BITES, or VEGAN THIS PREPACKED SHIT thats when they jack the prices up

6. I grow my own herbs and vegg during summer, buy from farmers market, or amish near my city. Anything seeds wise, or specific I want I will go to a health food store, bulk barn ect

I wont respond to any asshole remarks about my lifestyle, people wanna bash vegans and thats fine but I wont respond, if anyone wants to have a legitimate conversation I will be happy to have one.

Do i think eating animals is wrong? for me yes. for everyone else, yes but only if its through factory farming. because lets face it , that steak you bought at your grocery store is FILLED with hormones and other things that are causing your early death. It's not real meat.
 

Krondizzel

New Member
I would be vegan if I had the time and experience to prepare the foods. My diet is horrible and I always notice eating clean will make you feel MUCH better. Eating quality foods is totally the way to go. I had a girlfriend get me on the organic diet and that alone helped tremendously.
 

sunni

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Staff member
I would be vegan if I had the time and experience to prepare the foods. My diet is horrible and I always notice eating clean will make you feel MUCH better. Eating quality foods is totally the way to go. I had a girlfriend get me on the organic diet and that alone helped tremendously.
Organic is a bullshit marketing promo the government puts up it's not what you think it is LOL, either way vegan can be quick and easy, a lot don't think so but its true ^_^
 

Trolling

New Member
Ill take a stab and answer them + put in my own info ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ABOUT MEAT OR MEAT INDUSTRY WILL BE REFEREED TO SUPERMARKET PRODUCES, NOT LOCALLY GROWN, NOT FROM AMISH FARMERS ONLY FROM YOUR GROCERY STORE OR SUPERMARKET.

1. I am a vegan because vegetarian is half assing it if you're doing it for the animals and also for health reasons as cheese and milk are HIGH in calories , eggs are high in cholesterol (the supermarket version), and fish feel pain

2. I recently became vegan, with no in between my doctor took tests before and after I am beyond healthier then I was and I always ate the right food as a omnivore I was never an unhealthy eater, but everyone of my tests proved a better decline or incline of anything in my body so I would say its more healthy then a omnivore diet, any doctor would tell you it is, a plant based diet is the way to go if you want to be healthier there are plenty of studies on this, There is a lack of misinformed information that Vegans do not get enough protien,calicum, ect because we are fed by the industry to believe we NEED meat and its the ONLY way to get protiens , and that dairy is the ONLY source of calcium. The average meat eaters cholesterol is 210 and the average vegans is 133. We are 40% less likely to have cancer.

3. My main diet will be fruit for breakfast (this is what i ate on a omnivoire diet though) and black coffee & a cup of water, I'll have an apple for a snack generally at work or carrot sticks & water, during the day with a handful of almonds or brazil nuts, then lunch is generally something quick if im at work, so a salad, i packed which includes hemp hearts or chia seeds and ill have a meat substitution generally like a gardinas chipoltle lime fingers or something & water, ill come home, prepare/ make dinner and if i didnt walk to or back from work ill work out right before,I will do whatever I am in the mood food though, red lentil soup, or , wraps, or, tofu and veggies, the ideas are endless, sometimes I'll have an evening snack , weather it be cookies, or a piece of chocolate, or hummas and veggies I can assure you I dont lack in any protein,iron or calcium or any other nutrient during the day

4. I feel FAN FUCKING TASTIC! thanks for asking, while I realize this isnt a lifestyle for everyone, I have yet to slip up and eat meat or cheese and I feel great which is why I know its the right choice FOR ME. I feel good on the inside,

5. I'd say infact its cheaper, or just breaking even to what I spent before. The fruits and veg are cheap enough its the seeds that tend to be pricey. Almond/soy/rice milk is cheaper, earth balance(vegan butter) is about the same as real butter its when you get into the prepacked, RAW VEGAN CHOCOLATE BITES, or VEGAN THIS PREPACKED SHIT thats when they jack the prices up

6. I grow my own herbs and vegg during summer, buy from farmers market, or amish near my city. Anything seeds wise, or specific I want I will go to a health food store, bulk barn ect

I wont respond to any asshole remarks about my lifestyle, people wanna bash vegans and thats fine but I wont respond, if anyone wants to have a legitimate conversation I will be happy to have one.

Do i think eating animals is wrong? for me yes. for everyone else, yes but only if its through factory farming. because lets face it , that steak you bought at your grocery store is FILLED with hormones and other things that are causing your early death. It's not real meat.
I dunno, my only reply to this post is everyone's body is different, there's no real studies behind it as far as far as I know of.
 

sunni

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Staff member
I dunno, my only reply to this post is everyone's body is different, there's no real studies behind it as far as far as I know of.
.....theres plenty ...you're obviously not researching/misinformed.
The China Study of the title is taken from the China-Cornell-Oxford Project, a 20-year study that began in 1983 and was conducted jointly by the Chinese Academy of Preventive Medicine, Cornell University, and the University of Oxford.[SUP][5][/SUP] T. Colin Campbell was one of the directors of the project, described by The New York Times in 1990 as "the Grand Prix of epidemiology."[SUP][6][/SUP]
The study examined mortality rates from 48 forms of cancer and other chronic diseases from 1973–75 in 65 counties in China, and correlated them with 1983–84 dietary surveys and bloodwork from 6,500 people, 100 from each county. It concluded that counties with a high consumption of animal-based foods in 1983–84 were more likely to have had higher death rates from "Western" diseases as of 1973–75, while the opposite was true for counties that ate more plant foods in 1983–84. The study was conducted in those counties because they had genetically similar populations that tended, over generations, to live in the same way in the same place, and eat diets specific to those regions.[SUP][7][/SUP]
The authors conclude that people who eat a plant-based/vegan diet—avoiding animal products such as beef, pork, poultry, fish, eggs, cheese, and milk, and reducing their intake of processed foods and refined carbohydrates—will escape, reduce or reverse the development of chronic diseases. They also recommend adequate amounts of sunshine to maintain sufficient levels of vitamin D, and supplementsof vitamin B12 in case of complete avoidance of animal products. They criticize low-carb diets, such as the Atkins diet, which include restrictions on the percentage of calories derived from complex carbohydrates.[SUP][8]

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[SUP]The authors argue that "most, but not all, of the confusion about nutrition is created in legal, fully disclosed ways and is disseminated by unsuspecting, well-intentioned people, whether they are researchers, politicians or journalists," and that there are powerful industries that stand to lose a lot if Americans shift to a plant-based diet. They write that those industries "do everything in their power to protect their profits and their shareholders."[SUP][9][/SUP]
They argue that earlier studies of nutrition (particularly the well-known Nurses' Health Study, which began in 1976) were flawed because they focused on the effects of varying amounts of individual nutrients among people who were consuming a uniformly high-risk, carnivorous (animal-based) diet.[SUP][10][/SUP] They write that "hardly any study has done more damage to the nutritional landscape than the Nurses' Health Study," and that it should "serve as a warning for the rest of science for what not to do."[SUP][11]

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[SUP]The authors write that "several studies have now shown, in both experimental animals and in humans, that consuming animal-based protein increases blood cholesterol levels. Saturated fat and dietary cholesterol also raise blood cholesterol, although these nutrients are not as effective at doing this as is animal protein. In contrast, plant-based foods contain no cholesterol and, in various other ways, help to decrease the amount of cholesterol made by the body." They write that "these disease associations with blood cholesterol were remarkable, because blood cholesterol and animal-based food consumption both were so low by American standards. In rural China, animal protein intake (for the same individual) averages only 7.1 grams per day whereas Americans average 70 grams per day."[SUP][15][/SUP]
They conclude that "the findings from the China Study indicate that the lower the percentage of animal-based foods that are consumed, the greater the health benefits—even when that percentage declines from 10% to 0% of calories. So it's not unreasonable to assume that the optimum percentage of animal-based products is zero, at least for anyone with a predisposition for a degenerative disease."[SUP][16][/SUP]
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Krondizzel

New Member
Organic is a bullshit marketing promo the government puts up it's not what you think it is LOL, either way vegan can be quick and easy, a lot don't think so but its true ^_^
Do you find yourself able to consistently eat vegan or do you find yourself drawn back to processed foods at all? I suppose I'm asking if you ever cheat and go to an Ihop or something if you don't have time to prepare your meals?
 

sunni

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Staff member
Do you find yourself able to consistently eat vegan or do you find yourself drawn back to processed foods at all? I suppose I'm asking if you ever cheat and go to an Ihop or something if you don't have time to prepare your meals?
almost never I went out last month and had fries and a vegan burger from a restaurant but generally if i cant read whats on the ingredient list I dont buy it
 

Krondizzel

New Member
almost never I went out last month and had fries and a vegan burger from a restaurant but generally if i cant read whats on the ingredient list I dont buy it
I try not to eat stuff out of a bag or a box or eat anything I can't pronounce. I cheat horribly though.. a quarter pounder with cheese from mcdonalds totally makes my day every once in a while.

I think tomorrow though, I will cook myself a nice home cooked meal, healthy style.

Actually, if you know any good vegan recipes and you're willing to share, I'd like to have them!
 

sunni

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Staff member
I try not to eat stuff out of a bag or a box or eat anything I can't pronounce. I cheat horribly though.. a quarter pounder with cheese from mcdonalds totally makes my day every once in a while.

I think tomorrow though, I will cook myself a nice home cooked meal, healthy style.

Actually, if you know any good vegan recipes and you're willing to share, I'd like to have them!
red lentil stew in my cooking page, its awesome and filling ^_^ costed me 5$ for a giant pot too
 
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