hotrodharley
Well-Known Member
5 to 10 in Montana. The Feds came in and destroyed the dispensary system in MT. Took them less than a month.
dispensaries no longer legal. fuck.
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TheMan13
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Until the city begins citing you for a "Public Nuisance" due to the smell and noise
Murfy
Well-Known Member
the farm act -
specifically targets just that. they can't do it. it controls the local governments control over it. to zero.
read it. it has alot of principles that should be taken into consideration on this topic, and the fact they aren't doing it shows we're being black balled.
specifically targets just that. they can't do it. it controls the local governments control over it. to zero.
read it. it has alot of principles that should be taken into consideration on this topic, and the fact they aren't doing it shows we're being black balled.
TheMan13
Well-Known Member
I will do just that. Maybe the Farm Act should have been used by the defense here?
bloodytrichomes
New Member
link doesnt work mabe its just me?
mrbungle79
Well-Known Member
smell is no worse than my neighbor's dog shit and they are much quieter than her yappy ass dog. no roo's though. had them for dinner. and if the city decides to go after me i will spend the money on a lawyer and and win right to farm act says i can. i sell eggsUntil the city begins citing you for a "Public Nuisance" due to the smell and noise
buckaroo bonzai
Well-Known Member
yes decrim.....I can get behind that 
Ann Arbor legislator working on effort to decriminalize marijuana in Michigan
Ann Arbor legislator working on effort to decriminalize marijuana in Michigan
Marijuana advocates plan to turn to the state Legislature for legal clarification following a Michigan Supreme Court ruling on Friday that could hurt medical pot dispensaries.
Chuck Ream, president of the Arborside medical marijuana dispensary in Ann Arbor, said he's hoping to build support for legislation allowing governments to regulate dispensaries locally.
State Rep. Jeff Irwin, D-Ann Arbor, announced on Friday he's working with lawyers at the state's legislative services bureau to draft a bill that would decriminalize marijuana in Michigan
State Rep. Jeff Irwin, D-Ann Arbor, said he doesn't think that goes far enough, though. He announced on Friday he's working with lawyers at the state's legislative services bureau to draft a bill that would decriminalize marijuana in Michigan — and not just for medical uses.
"If we're concerned about the negative impacts of marijuana use, all of that can be improved by improving our marijuana laws and regulating the product in a sensible way," he said. "It would improve public safety to drive the trade of marijuana into the light."
The Supreme Court on Friday ruled marijuana dispensaries that handle patient-to-patient sales are not protected under state law. But justices also said the appeals court erred when it determined state law prohibits direct sales of medical marijuana between patients and caregivers.
MLive.com is reporting the ruling gives county prosecutors across the state additional ammunition to shut down dispensaries that sell marijuana on the grounds that they are a public nuisance.
Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette told the Associated Press that he's notifying county prosecutors that they have the green light to shut down medical-marijuana shops.
Calling the ruling "a recipe for empowering violent criminals," Irwin said he fears it could increase the amount of marijuana purchases made on the black market and through criminal gangs.
Irwin believes a law decriminalizing marijuana could help keep drugs out of the hands of children, make streets safer, and save the state and local governments hundreds of millions of dollars.
"Our courts spend an inordinate amount of time dealing with these cases," Irwin said. "Most of the money is spent on police and courts, and some of it is spent on incarceration."
Irwin said there are a number of communities to look to for guidance, but he's partial to the Ann Arbor model.
The Ann Arbor City Council in the 1970s reduced the city penalty for possession of small amounts of marijuana to a $5 civil infraction, essentially decriminalizing weed in Ann Arbor. That remains the case today, except it's now a $25 ticket for first offenses.
"It's working here just fine," Irwin said.
According to a new report, there are nearly 4,500 state-registered medical marijuana patients in Washtenaw County — about 2.5 patients for every state-registered caregiver locally.
Irwin said he's still digesting the Supreme Court's ruling, but he doesn't think it will mean the end of medical marijuana dispensaries.
"It bans patient-to-patient transfers," he said. "The ruling does not say dispensaries are illegal, nor does it say there's no model by which a dispensary could be created to provide services to patients."
Irwin said dispensary owners are, by and large, creative and intelligent people, and he thinks they will find a legal means to continue operating and provide services to their patients.
City Attorney Stephen Postema, who has closely followed the debate around the state's medical marijuana laws, could not be reached for comment.
Ream said he still hadn't read the ruling early Friday afternoon, but he assumed his dispensary at 1818 Packard would remain open.
He said he'll be fighting for legislation that would let cities decide for themselves to allow dispensaries. State Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville, introduced such legislation last May in the form of House Bill 5580, but it never moved out of committee.
"We hope the Legislature will move rapidly to allow dispensaries so the people who are depending on them won't be really hurt by this court decision," Ream said.
Ream noted 63 percent of Michigan voters in 2008 approved the state law that legalized medical marijuana.
"It's time for the courts and the Legislature to reflect the will of the voters. They're still standing in the way," he said. "America is not a land of personal freedom anymore if you can't have an herb that the citizens of Michigan have determined democratically should be available."
Chief Justice Robert Young was supported by Justices Stephen Markman, Mary Beth Kelly and Brian Zahra in the 4-1 ruling. Michael Cavanagh dissented and Bridget McCormack, who won election in November, did not take part in the case, which was argued in October.
Ann Arbor legislator working on effort to decriminalize marijuana in Michigan
Chuck Ream, president of the Arborside medical marijuana dispensary in Ann Arbor, said he's hoping to build support for legislation allowing governments to regulate dispensaries locally.
State Rep. Jeff Irwin, D-Ann Arbor, announced on Friday he's working with lawyers at the state's legislative services bureau to draft a bill that would decriminalize marijuana in Michigan
State Rep. Jeff Irwin, D-Ann Arbor, said he doesn't think that goes far enough, though. He announced on Friday he's working with lawyers at the state's legislative services bureau to draft a bill that would decriminalize marijuana in Michigan — and not just for medical uses.
"If we're concerned about the negative impacts of marijuana use, all of that can be improved by improving our marijuana laws and regulating the product in a sensible way," he said. "It would improve public safety to drive the trade of marijuana into the light."
The Supreme Court on Friday ruled marijuana dispensaries that handle patient-to-patient sales are not protected under state law. But justices also said the appeals court erred when it determined state law prohibits direct sales of medical marijuana between patients and caregivers.
MLive.com is reporting the ruling gives county prosecutors across the state additional ammunition to shut down dispensaries that sell marijuana on the grounds that they are a public nuisance.
Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette told the Associated Press that he's notifying county prosecutors that they have the green light to shut down medical-marijuana shops.
Calling the ruling "a recipe for empowering violent criminals," Irwin said he fears it could increase the amount of marijuana purchases made on the black market and through criminal gangs.
Irwin believes a law decriminalizing marijuana could help keep drugs out of the hands of children, make streets safer, and save the state and local governments hundreds of millions of dollars.
"Our courts spend an inordinate amount of time dealing with these cases," Irwin said. "Most of the money is spent on police and courts, and some of it is spent on incarceration."
Irwin said there are a number of communities to look to for guidance, but he's partial to the Ann Arbor model.
The Ann Arbor City Council in the 1970s reduced the city penalty for possession of small amounts of marijuana to a $5 civil infraction, essentially decriminalizing weed in Ann Arbor. That remains the case today, except it's now a $25 ticket for first offenses.
"It's working here just fine," Irwin said.
According to a new report, there are nearly 4,500 state-registered medical marijuana patients in Washtenaw County — about 2.5 patients for every state-registered caregiver locally.
Irwin said he's still digesting the Supreme Court's ruling, but he doesn't think it will mean the end of medical marijuana dispensaries.
"It bans patient-to-patient transfers," he said. "The ruling does not say dispensaries are illegal, nor does it say there's no model by which a dispensary could be created to provide services to patients."
Irwin said dispensary owners are, by and large, creative and intelligent people, and he thinks they will find a legal means to continue operating and provide services to their patients.
City Attorney Stephen Postema, who has closely followed the debate around the state's medical marijuana laws, could not be reached for comment.
Ream said he still hadn't read the ruling early Friday afternoon, but he assumed his dispensary at 1818 Packard would remain open.
He said he'll be fighting for legislation that would let cities decide for themselves to allow dispensaries. State Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville, introduced such legislation last May in the form of House Bill 5580, but it never moved out of committee.
"We hope the Legislature will move rapidly to allow dispensaries so the people who are depending on them won't be really hurt by this court decision," Ream said.
Ream noted 63 percent of Michigan voters in 2008 approved the state law that legalized medical marijuana.
"It's time for the courts and the Legislature to reflect the will of the voters. They're still standing in the way," he said. "America is not a land of personal freedom anymore if you can't have an herb that the citizens of Michigan have determined democratically should be available."
Chief Justice Robert Young was supported by Justices Stephen Markman, Mary Beth Kelly and Brian Zahra in the 4-1 ruling. Michael Cavanagh dissented and Bridget McCormack, who won election in November, did not take part in the case, which was argued in October.
Ann Arbor legislator working on effort to decriminalize marijuana in Michigan
Huel Perkins
Well-Known Member
Every one of the petitions I've signed for marijuana legislation I was asked first if I was registered to vote because you needed to be a registered voter for your signature to count. Considering felons can't vote I don't think a prison is a good place to collect signatures.
Again, this is why I suggested getting help from or working with an organization that knows what they're doing when it comes to this stuff rather than going out and just collecting a bunch of worthless signatures on your own.
tricloud
New Member
Not to get off base but you should also be able to keep cockerels or young roosters because 6-7 week old broiler roosters are what make the best meat birds. Should be able to eat more than just eggs.....
melungeonman
Active Member
I understand They are about to re outlaw the whole shooting match there in Mi.
tricloud
New Member
Wasn't NORML behind that last failure legalization effort. It didn't fly in part due to the fact that it was backed by big industry. They didn't offer one red cent to help the thing either and wasted everybody's time. Our group collected about 4000 signatures. Only 50,000 were collected state wide. Most of us (our group) were very busy and didn't spend a great deal of time collecting signatures. Yet.... 6 people managed to collect nearly 10% of the signatures that were collected all together? I think if everybody gave 2 weeks of their time to collect signatures we'd get way more signatures than we need. I don't think collecting signatures will be difficult if we play our cards right. Timing is everything though.
mrbungle79
Well-Known Member
got 4 hens soley for eggs. had a few roos by accident kept 2 capons and ate 2. raised meat birds along with our large flock of hens when i had property in lapeer county. we buy our meat from a farm in columbiaville along with our milk now. eggs are straight from our yard. back on topic i think decrim state wide might get alot further than full out legalization though
buckaroo bonzai
Well-Known Member
their just fukin with everyone like they did in Oregon.....cats out of the bag here--just like there...
evr try and put a cat back into a bag???
how you guys out there thinking about the whole 'legalization' thing?? .....I think Oregon is as smart as Cali in their efforts-jmo
.....now that you have to buy it from state stores in Washington and the legalize effort in Colorado you can 'only' have 6 plants and 1oz now---restricted home grows thru legalization--
come on weigh in on this ....some folks here think legalization is the best approach....?.....
what say Oregonians? personally I believe decrim is the best approach--
