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[wormdrive66]

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[cannabiscult]

View attachment 2526526Notice the difference in soil and hydro ph ranges and uptake ranges......

 

[cannabiscult]

beat me to it worm drive

 

[cannabiscult]

sorry i was wrong about the iron i forgot thats lower ph but i was right about the 2 tracers. gotta go burn more jillybean agent orange chernobyl salad

 

[wormdrive66]

I got more Popcorn, continue......

 

[cannabiscult]

il stop the cannabiscult show for a sec and go toke. class dismissed

 

[SpectatorFernFirm]

What are you feeding your plants and what are their npk ratio's?


cof

I start with Technaflora line of nutes. I do 2 gallons of nutes 3 of water for each.
Each of the two gal gets
BC Boost 10ml (NPK) 3-0-2
BC Bloom 10 ml (NPK) 1-4-7
Gangster Brand Organic (NPK) 9-21-12
Sugar Daddy 10ml (NPK) 0-0-0 this is just flavor if I'm not mistaken.

All until the two maybe three days ago things where perfect. I keep them all from 400-600PPM and the others look great. This one had small PH issue but not really issue as when I added the water it was missing PH came right back up. Somethimg keeps telling me that as the plant ages it will start using energy from leaves but then again who the hell am I to assume that.

 

[wormdrive66]

With soil I always noticed a natural slow rise in ph over a few days after watering. I would always start at 6.2 with the feeding and had good results. A good flush every 10 days or so helped keep things from getting locked up. My new system is Run to waste hydro and my ph is always stable at 5.6 (w/ 1000ppm's+-) and the waste water is around 5.8 (500ppm's+-)not much really changes.

 

[curious old fart]

I start with Technaflora line of nutes. I do 2 gallons of nutes 3 of water for each.
Each of the two gal gets
BC Boost 10ml (NPK) 3-0-2
BC Bloom 10 mMLB (NPK) 1-4-7
Gangster Brand Organic (NPK) 9-21-12
Sugar Daddy 10ml (NPK) 0-0-0 this is just flavor if I'm not mistaken.

All until the two maybe three days ago things where perfect. I keep them all from 400-600PPM and the others look great. This one had small PH issue but not really issue as when I added the water it was missing PH came right back up. Somethimg keeps telling me that as the plant ages it will start using energy from leaves but then again who the hell am I to assume that.

Your ratio's are way off......13-25-21. Work with a 3-1-2 and you'll have better results.


cof

 

[cannabiscult]

ive learned to do a neutral runoff test with soil before deciding on a ph to go with for watering. i just saturate 1 gal of soil with 2 gals of 7ph water and then record the runoff and adjust my waters ph to be appropriate.

 

[whodatnation]

I start with Technaflora line of nutes. I do 2 gallons of nutes 3 of water for each.
Each of the two gal gets
BC Boost 10ml (NPK) 3-0-2
BC Bloom 10 mMLB (NPK) 1-4-7
Gangster Brand Organic (NPK) 9-21-12
Sugar Daddy 10ml (NPK) 0-0-0 this is just flavor if I'm not mistaken.

All until the two maybe three days ago things where perfect. I keep them all from 400-600PPM and the others look great. This one had small PH issue but not really issue as when I added the water it was missing PH came right back up. Somethimg keeps telling me that as the plant ages it will start using energy from leaves but then again who the hell am I to assume that.

So you start with technaflora and then change to some other brand?
I used thechnafloras "recipe for success" exactly to their feeding chart only altering nute strength... Worked great for me.

I also, as mentioned by someone else, highly suggest calibrating your meters monthly, at least.


Edit:
More info on sugar daddy.
http://www.technaflora.com/indexProduct.php?ID=106
"carbohydrate, protein, and fatty acid synthesis"
Im guessing this plays a similar role to molasses.

 

[whodatnation]

**** another thing im just going to respectfully disagree with is that a ph raising and falling makes the available range of nutrients able to be taken in.

A plants pathways take longer than a single light cycle of 12/12 to lock in nutrient uptake pathways....for instance if nitrogen is best absorbed at 7 ph then you want at least 3-4 days of sustained nitrogen to give the plant what it needs, that means the more stable your Ph the easier for the plant to accomidate the transportable nutrients (if they are mobile solids or metals)(and chilated)

If your Ph bounces around your plant may be trying to eat a four course meal and you are throwing it bread and rolls left and right, itl keep it alive but not fill up the belly...

now i do believe in raising your ph slowly over 8 weeks or the flowering duration to accommodate better phosphorus intake and iron and the trace elements. < and lessen nitrogen intake. (it focuses the energy expended on production instead of transportation and photosynthesis.

Strictly my opinion from my observations and studies

Just posting what Iv come across with my experience in rdwc with synthetic nutes. I also never did any res changes the entire grow, just topping off and we are all taught to never do that, but for some reason it worked great for me I saved a TON on nutes and labor.

Is your input from experience with DWC type systems or a different form of hydro? I dont know for sure because dwc type is the only form Iv dabbled in, but I would think rockwool or coco based hydro would behave differently from dwc.

 

[cannabiscult]

the only hydro experience i have is with rockwool in ebb and flow and a ton of soil experience......my personal grow is all organic dirt and my work is all synthetic hydro in rockwool ebb and flow style

 

[whodatnation]

the only hydro experience i have is with rockwool in ebb and flow and a ton of soil experience......my personal grow is all organic dirt and my work is all synthetic hydro in rockwool ebb and flow style

So dont disregard the info Iv posted on my experiences with rdwc if you ever go that rout.
I would then have to agree with what you posted before, because the medium probably holds on to certain things.
I have since dropped synthetics all together aint had to check ph or ppm in a WHILE,,, I do test my AACT but just because its cool to know whats doing and I may as well use the $200 meter lol.

 

[cannabiscult]

i will def not discount that info, but hopefully in the next 2 years il be hanging up the lights for good and il be somewhere where the sun and i become best friends...........dreams can come true

 

[whodatnation]

i will def not discount that info, but hopefully in the next 2 years il be hanging up the lights for good and il be somewhere where the sun and i become best friends...........dreams can come true

Your gonna have to go a little further west for that lol Could go south but good reasons not to.

 

[cannabiscult]

im thinking southern oregon or southwestern colorado. i have 3 months total growing season up here, you absolutely have to veg inside first and flower at the equinox. sativas have no chance

 

[SpectatorFernFirm]

Ok I'm loving all the good info! I'm in DWC and I use rapid rooters. I mix the recipe for success with some other stuff cause when I did a complete run with recipe for success it FUKD my shit up!!! Burned the crap out of my girls. This mixture I concocted seemed ok but I see I'm wrong.

How can I get that ratio you suggested of NPK? Nutes is pretty much what has me lost. I know that's the most important part but the shit just doesn't make sense to me. I think I need to find an easy two part nute system. Any suggestions??

 

[curious old fart]

Ok I'm loving all the good info! I'm in DWC and I use rapid rooters. I mix the recipe for success with some other stuff cause when I did a complete run with recipe for success it FUKD my shit up!!! Burned the crap out of my girls. This mixture I concocted seemed ok but I see I'm wrong.

How can I get that ratio you suggested of NPK? Nutes is pretty much what has me lost. I know that's the most important part but the shit just doesn't make sense to me. I think I need to find an easy two part nute system. Any suggestions??

I grow in soil and any info is second hand. but you might try the dyna gro pro, 9-3-6 and you'll need to add cal/mg.


cof

 

[genuity]

Ok I'm loving all the good info! I'm in DWC and I use rapid rooters. I mix the recipe for success with some other stuff cause when I did a complete run with recipe for success it FUKD my shit up!!! Burned the crap out of my girls. This mixture I concocted seemed ok but I see I'm wrong.

How can I get that ratio you suggested of NPK? Nutes is pretty much what has me lost. I know that's the most important part but the shit just doesn't make sense to me. I think I need to find an easy two part nute system. Any suggestions??

cns17 works wonders in dwc