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DoobieBrother

DoobieBrother

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If the 4-pot system you get doesn't come with a lid to cover the res opening (as seen in a previous post, which is an Atami), just make a lid to keep the light out.
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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My ears burning?! My systems not Wilma its auto pots, got a spare 4 separates rather than the 2 back to backs. kit going spare, needs hydro nutes really.
 
ghb

ghb

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budolskie said:
When I get back on laptop I will have a read on auto pots what's the difference in them and wilma
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wilma: recirculating uses electronic pumps and timers.

auto pots: uses gravity and does not reciculate.

both are designed so that once a garden is set up you don't need to go every day and hand feed you only need to top up the res every so often in theory.

i beg of you please before you go and spend the money and the time setting it up try using coco and hand watering. both of these systems require you to use a medium so you will more than likely be buying coco anyway. if you aren't happy with the yield and quality then part with your money. i can't see how hard it is to water 4 plants in a tent, it is very difficult to fuck up when hand feeding plants in coco, there are a lot of things that can and DO go wrong with these automated watering systems however.

i'm very close friends with some people who grow on an industrial scale, they have tried every way under the sun and had mixed results. now they do 4 plants in 20l pots in pure coco under each light HAND WATERING, now we are talking near a thousand plants, if they can do it anybody can.

my final two cents is the less equipment in your grow room the less things can go wrong and the more space you have for the plants. sorry for banging on but i really do have your best interests at heart.
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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I'd listen to GHB. He really does have your best interests. Lot's of little things to go wrong with those setups.
 
ghb

ghb

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i was gonna say "that will be a jungle come week 4 of flower"

on closer inspection it's a fucking jungle now! lol you are gonna have your work cut out man, work worth doing though
 
budolskie

budolskie

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ok so im still gona be doing a soil grow in my 3x3 cuboard aswell till i get the hang of this wilma and coco, was also wondering if i would need 1 of these with the wilma http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360591715508?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

i can still be there a few times a day if needs be and will be till i get a decent regeme going with it, im just investing sum of this money off these plants now instead of wasting it in ladbrokes haha
 
SpectatorFernFirm

SpectatorFernFirm

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DoobieBrother said:
Ooops!!!
I re-read your post and saw where I missed you describing the RO & softener set up.
Sorry about that!

I did find this on a forum for orchid growers while researching your problem:
(*the OP was a lady who grows orchids indoors who finds herself suddenly in a house that uses well water, and has a salt softener & RO system installed by her mom. Her system also has the softener after the RO like yours)

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/orchids/msg1016490619949.html

"water softeners are ion exchangers, not removers. They take "hard" minerals like calcium and magnesium out of the water by replacing them with sodium, or in some cases, potassium.
From your bathub's point of view, this is good, since you don't get scale (the mineral kind) depositing from sodium as you do with Ca or Mg.
From your orchid's point of view, this is bad, because most can take (and require) reasonable levels of Ca and Mg, but cannot deal with excess sodium.
You should indeed put the RO unit after the water softener if you have the choice, as MB said, because Ca and Mg ions are worse for the RO membrane (will shorten its life) than sodium.
And to echo Jane in response to Calvin's question, there is almost certainly a source of unsoftened water in the house.
Most likely outside for the hoses, but also possibly inside in the basement.
Find where the water supply pipe enters the house: it's where the meter/shutoff is, and there is often a spigot nearby for draining the pipes or filling large buckets.
This will be upstream of the water softener.
As a last resort, water softeners I've seen have a "bypass" switch. Hit it to cut the water softener out of the loop, fill your buckets for watering, then turn it back on."
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YYYYEEEESSSSS!!!!!!! Who do I make the check out to? Do you know how much money this just saved me!? How much time!! Omg Ty! Best news I'v had in days! I never once thought of this and I work on the thing all the time. I know EXACTLY where the spicket is that bypasses the salt. Of course I'll need to read more into feeding but things are looking up. Thanks again!
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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SpectatorFernFirm said:
YYYYEEEESSSSS!!!!!!! Who do I make the check out to?
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I got you figured out now... you just like spending money at the drop of a hat. Lol. Keep the checkbook and wallet securely in your pocket.

I can't stand 'soft' water cuz it feels like you can never get the soap off. Just keep rinsing and rinsing.
 
giggles26

giggles26

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DoobieBrother said:
Of course, politicians NEVER EVER EVER say one thing and do another.
;-)

If it's not cannabis who's influence he was under, then it was a prescription drug, or combination of prescription drugs (whether actually prescribed to him, or ones he got elsewhere).
Clonidine is one that gives cottonmouth (regulates blood pressure, helps with anxiety/panic attacks and ADHD, etc), but none of them cause the eyelid droop.
The only ones that do are ones that also cause an altered state of being.
;-)
I stand by my cannabis theory.
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Hey I'm not saying it isn't cannabis lol. I said the same thing to my girl, those damn politicians wont let us know that they smoke the dank unless they support it.

jigfresh said:
Hehe... my favorite is John Edwards. Anyone screaming that loud about how much they love the lord is doing some nasty shit in the background.
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OMG I've seen that dude in person and I was wishing my ears would stop bleeding so I wouldn't have to listen anymore.

209 Cali closet grower said:
[video=youtube;v3jmFljdnwI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3jmFljdnwI[/video]
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I bet it smells good as fuck in there! I know outside my house smells like a dead skunk but hey my closet neighbor is over a mile away so who cares haha.

Look at wilma wearing that short skirt, what a ho ;)

DoobieBrother said:
Guy gets a belly full of delicious banana bread and suddenly he's a comedian!
;-)
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If he had some medicated banana bread like mine he would be a comedian melting into the background lol.

jigfresh said:
You guys are a laugh a minute. :)

Installing more bondage screen in my closet. The girls are going to get tied up real good. :fire:
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Everyone likes a girl who likes to be tied up ;)

DoobieBrother said:
I miss Alaska, until I go back and realize why I left.
;-)
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Dude my girl's grandparents have a cabin up in Fairbanks and we spent a month up there and that was the longest,coldest month of my life!

jigfresh said:
I think I've smoked all 3 over there. My vote would be the Exo. But danmed if they aren't all good in their own way.
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My vote is with the exo to! I love that shit. Produces rock hard buds and that's what I'm all about.

jigfresh said:
I'd listen to GHB. He really does have your best interests. Lot's of little things to go wrong with those setups.
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GHB is right. With something someone else made you can run into leaks and just more of a mess. I've done cocco and I loved it I just have been doing the whole soil thing lately. But anyways back to the point I've found unless you know what your doing and having that many connections you can have leaks everywhere making a huge mess. Ask bassman about water all over the floor lol.


Ok whew I think I'm finally caught up with you guys lol. So I woke up this morning to rain and wind! Damn it and then to top it off it's suppose to be server storms like sleet and freezing rain and shit on Wednesday, ffs! I hope it doesn't knock out my power. My girls are not going to be happy.

Ok now on to better things. I sowed 12 new beans yesterday. Ready for some new mothers :D Did some watering today on vintage and she is drinking over a gallon every 2 days! I'll grab some shots of her tomorrow when lights come back on.

Hope all is well. Have a good afternoon guys!
 
shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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Nice to have, but the pH is more important than ppm, unless you are a fool hell-bent on burning your plants. You can get this: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sun-Mart-Store/pH-Meters-Testers-Monitors-/_i.html?_fsub=371809419 for much less. Comes with calibration supplies which are important. I noticed that very Chinese looking unit has a usb port so you can download your data to the mainframe, lol. Manual's probably in Chinese too.

budolskie said:
ok so im still gona be doing a soil grow in my 3x3 cuboard aswell till i get the hang of this wilma and coco, was also wondering if i would need 1 of these with the wilma http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360591715508?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

i can still be there a few times a day if needs be and will be till i get a decent regeme going with it, im just investing sum of this money off these plants now instead of wasting it in ladbrokes haha
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