Scrog ! First timer !

[jezzystylez]

Hey ladies n gents,

Ok so im planning on starting another grow in a few weeks time but I plan on only have 1-2 plants at max...
I wanted to use the scrog method so I can get maximum yeild from the least ammount of plants !!
The misses doesnt want any more than 2 plants so gotta keep her happy.

I have a 1.2x1.2x2m grow tent with 600w HID lighting well ventilated etc.

I wanna put a screen straight across the grow area and somehow get 1 or 2 plants to fill out the screen jus before switching to 12/12


Now, Is it possible to fill out a 1.2mx1.2m screen with 1 or 2 plants ?

Because I can only keep 1 or 2 now I wanna grow them as big and efficient as possible, in other words scrog them to utilize every last bit of my 600w HID !!

The strain im planning to start this with will either be Nirvana ice or GreenHouse's Lemon Skunk, I could do a mixture of 1 plant each but would that be smart putting 2 different plants into the same screen.

Any help will be much appreciated, just so I can start organizing materials to make my screen, germinate the seeds etc etc !!

Cheers in advanced,
Peace and Ganja,
Jez

 

[jezzystylez]

lol over 100 views and no one has any advice on a single plant scrog .... cmon

 

[growingforfun]

Well what do you actually wanna know? Yes it can be done , check out my thread called scrog overkill to see a single plant scrog that size. I would say its easiest to harvest all at one time so just plan on how your going to deal with plants finishing times and how that can become complicated in a scrog

 

[PersonalJesus]

I think it sounds totally feasible... Personally, I would do the two different strains at once, just cause I get sick of smoking the same meds over and over. You shouldn't have a problem unless one is very sativa dominant and the other indica dominant, then you may have a difference in height that you'd need to account for. SCROG-ing is pretty much letting your tops grow up through the screen and then weaving them back under... as long as you top your plant early and more than once, I don't see why you couldn't fill your tent with 1 plant.
Hope this helps.

 

[jezzystylez]

Ok now im confussed again.... I need to top when I do a scrog ? I was under the initial thoughts that scrog eliminated the need to top/fim thus meaning you dont have a pause for recovery time..... hence quicker veggin time...

Im new so dont bust my balls on it if im wrong, just from all the research and everything I have read, that is what I understand to be scrog....

I really just wanted to know, how to maximise a srog grow, to allow 1 or 2 plants to fill a 1.2x1.2m screen quickly, i dont want a setup that I can only harvest once every 4-5 months you know....

Cheers guys for all the help so far

 

[jezzystylez]

Well what do you actually wanna know? Yes it can be done , check out my thread called scrog overkill to see a single plant scrog that size. I would say its easiest to harvest all at one time so just plan on how your going to deal with plants finishing times and how that can become complicated in a scrog

I really want a perpetual grow with 1 plant in veg and 1 in flower all the time.... so im not waiting months on end for harvest...

What would be the best way to have a perpetual grow with 2 plants on a scrog system... I need obviously larger plants because I only have 1... its really doing my head in...

 

[growingforfun]

Just use small individual screens for each plant then you can put them in whenever an be harvesting every month if you have 2 plants in flower.

 

[Oriah]

Hey friend, Check out my thread. Lots of good scrog info. And if you have any questions at the end, ask away.
Live Love
-Oriah

 

[Dannoo93]

Pics would be nice i have a scrog goin too

 

[hydrocropper420]

this is my 2x4x5 tent,and as you can see these 2 bushes are filling it nicely, this is week 8, 16 days into flower, with a 600 hps,although this isnt a scrog grow, i do a lot of lst, topping, and supercropping, the results are tops everywhere like a scrog, TOTALLY FEASIBLE!!!!!!Good Luck!!!

Hey ladies n gents,

Ok so im planning on starting another grow in a few weeks time but I plan on only have 1-2 plants at max...
I wanted to use the scrog method so I can get maximum yeild from the least ammount of plants !!
The misses doesnt want any more than 2 plants so gotta keep her happy.

I have a 1.2x1.2x2m grow tent with 600w HID lighting well ventilated etc.

I wanna put a screen straight across the grow area and somehow get 1 or 2 plants to fill out the screen jus before switching to 12/12


Now, Is it possible to fill out a 1.2mx1.2m screen with 1 or 2 plants ?

Because I can only keep 1 or 2 now I wanna grow them as big and efficient as possible, in other words scrog them to utilize every last bit of my 600w HID !!

The strain im planning to start this with will either be Nirvana ice or GreenHouse's Lemon Skunk, I could do a mixture of 1 plant each but would that be smart putting 2 different plants into the same screen.

Any help will be much appreciated, just so I can start organizing materials to make my screen, germinate the seeds etc etc !!

Cheers in advanced,
Peace and Ganja,
Jez

 

[jezzystylez]

this is my 2x4x5 tent,and as you can see these 2 bushes are filling it nicely, this is week 8, 16 days into flower, with a 600 hps,although this isnt a scrog grow, i do a lot of lst, topping, and supercropping, the results are tops everywhere like a scrog, TOTALLY FEASIBLE!!!!!!Good Luck!!!View attachment 2557279View attachment 2557281

Hey man cheers for coming over and lending some knowledge !! I read a couple of your threads/posts and your grow is awesome i basically wanna do what you are doin. Least amount of plants maximum amount of yield... for the setup I have that is !!
Do you usually grow from clone or seed? I gotta go from seed how long would it take to veg 2 plants, the way your growing ?? and how long do you flower for

Sorry for all the questions bro its jus I can see what im gonna be harvesting at the moment and it looks to be fuck all... maybe a couple of zips dry if im lucky.. ill post some pics soon
This time round I have the right genetics so really I can only blame myself if it fails...

 

[jezzystylez]

Hey friend, Check out my thread. Lots of good scrog info. And if you have any questions at the end, ask away.
Live Love
-Oriah

Thanks bro, Ill check em out now !!

 

[jezzystylez]

Pics would be nice i have a scrog goin too

Lol yeah I havent started it yet, I needed info on this so I could decide how Iam going to do it. Than from there go and get everything I need.

 

[hydrocropper420]

ok so i started these from seed veg exactly 42 days from seed, you CANT time flower, thats up to the plant, but usually takes about 7-8 weeks to complete the flowering cycle, 13-14 weeks usually i got over a pound last grow, i grow in a DWC tub with a steaytop feedalso, chech out my pge for some other photos, i encourage ''big things in small packages'' cuz you can yield a pound in a whole room with 16 plants with an oz.a plant OR you can have a closet sized tent and get a pound off 2 plants, ts all in the training and lights, a goal is a gram yield per watt of light, high goal but achievable!!!!!! PS QUESTIONS WELCOME, were all here to help, (well most of us lol!!!)

Hey man cheers for coming over and lending some knowledge !! I read a couple of your threads/posts and your grow is awesome i basically wanna do what you are doin. Least amount of plants maximum amount of yield... for the setup I have that is !!
Do you usually grow from clone or seed? I gotta go from seed how long would it take to veg 2 plants, the way your growing ?? and how long do you flower for

Sorry for all the questions bro its jus I can see what im gonna be harvesting at the moment and it looks to be fuck all... maybe a couple of zips dry if im lucky.. ill post some pics soon
This time round I have the right genetics so really I can only blame myself if it fails...

 

[jezzystylez]

ok so i started these from seed veg exactly 42 days from seed, you CANT time flower, thats up to the plant, but usually takes about 7-8 weeks to complete the flowering cycle, 13-14 weeks usually i got over a pound last grow, i grow in a DWC tub with a steaytop feedalso, chech out my pge for some other photos, i encourage ''big things in small packages'' cuz you can yield a pound in a whole room with 16 plants with an oz.a plant OR you can have a closet sized tent and get a pound off 2 plants, ts all in the training and lights, a goal is a gram yield per watt of light, high goal but achievable!!!!!! PS QUESTIONS WELCOME, were all here to help, (well most of us lol!!!)

Awesome thanks heaps man !!
Ok so basically once the seed has sprouted I should veg for around 40 days, in this time scrog train the plant. If I was to top or fim the plants early, obviously would be a week or 2 of stunted/slow growth! Would this be included in the 42 day veg time or would it be 42 days worth of actual growth and whatever stunted time ontop ?

Also once you have set the height of your screen will it need to be raised? or is the screen set at a permanent position? If it is meant to be raised how do I know when it needs to be raised and how I can tell ?

Im sure Ive got alot more questions for ya mate, jus cant think of any at the moment !

Cheers for all the help so far mate !

 

[hydrocropper420]

ok so topping will stunt it for a couple days, fimming will only stunt the tops while they develop, the under growth will explode if you fim, the screen stays in the same place throughout the grow,(thats the whole point of scrog) i would veg it for a few weeks, get to know the plants, then put the screen over it whever you want the overall height at harvest,youe basically growin all the branches sideways, the buds will only stick through the screen minimal so thats about the height its gonna stay, just spread and you have to weave the plant each day, it works well with very even light, thats really the point is light to all the tops, and i suggest to trim all the under growth before flower to avoid stress at that stage, ill get some pics of when i top my plants so you can see the size of them when i do the first top

Awesome thanks heaps man !!
Ok so basically once the seed has sprouted I should veg for around 40 days, in this time scrog train the plant. If I was to top or fim the plants early, obviously would be a week or 2 of stunted/slow growth! Would this be included in the 42 day veg time or would it be 42 days worth of actual growth and whatever stunted time ontop ?

Also once you have set the height of your screen will it need to be raised? or is the screen set at a permanent position? If it is meant to be raised how do I know when it needs to be raised and how I can tell ?

Im sure Ive got alot more questions for ya mate, jus cant think of any at the moment !

Cheers for all the help so far mate !

 

[hydrocropper420]

this is the size i start topping to keep the stalk huge and the plants short!!!!!then 1-2 weeks after toping and you can see the under just flying up to the topView attachment 2557343then just going into flower after 6 weeks the canopies are all top branchesView attachment 2557346View attachment 2557347PS- if you see the one pic of the plant taped sideways, thats my lst to get the unders to the top, once they gro up, i release the tape and it grows back up creating the huge stalk and promotes rapid growth, without stress!!!!

Awesome thanks heaps man !!
Ok so basically once the seed has sprouted I should veg for around 40 days, in this time scrog train the plant. If I was to top or fim the plants early, obviously would be a week or 2 of stunted/slow growth! Would this be included in the 42 day veg time or would it be 42 days worth of actual growth and whatever stunted time ontop ?

Also once you have set the height of your screen will it need to be raised? or is the screen set at a permanent position? If it is meant to be raised how do I know when it needs to be raised and how I can tell ?

Im sure Ive got alot more questions for ya mate, jus cant think of any at the moment !

Cheers for all the help so far mate !

 

[jezzystylez]

ok so topping will stunt it for a couple days, fimming will only stunt the tops while they develop, the under growth will explode if you fim, the screen stays in the same place throughout the grow,(thats the whole point of scrog) i would veg it for a few weeks, get to know the plants, then put the screen over it whever you want the overall height at harvest,youe basically growin all the branches sideways, the buds will only stick through the screen minimal so thats about the height its gonna stay, just spread and you have to weave the plant each day, it works well with very even light, thats really the point is light to all the tops, and i suggest to trim all the under growth before flower to avoid stress at that stage, ill get some pics of when i top my plants so you can see the size of them when i do the first top

So would I be better off FIM'ing before I scrog it? Id get more tops and less stress to the rest of the plant? or is undergrowth not really used? How much of the undergrowth needs to be thinned out?
Yeah im hoping I can get an even canopy so i get good light distribution !!

 

[hydrocropper420]

definately fim before the scrog, it would be a real bitch, PLUS you want all the tops and under branches to get to the top as you put screen up so you have something to start weaving, fim at the same size plant as mine, them put the screen up when the new tops are developed (4 colas if fim twice) for you i recommend fimming on the 2nd node, that way the 2 new tops will be a couple inches tall and it will widen an bush out rapidly, then fim them 2 making 4, and with doing this twice will give time for the lower branches to gain height as they havent been stressed, so you dont really slow growth down, just slow the tops down,obviously because you cut em off and 2 new ones need to grow, but speed the rest up of the plant, people say it stunts growth, yes if you want height true, but growth to me is buds, and lst topping and fimming creates HUGE BUDS!!!!!! never take me longer to get a pound then anyone growing standerd!!! no time lost in training!!!QUOTE=jezzystylez;8781581]So would I be better off FIM'ing before I scrog it? Id get more tops and less stress to the rest of the plant? or is undergrowth not really used? How much of the undergrowth needs to be thinned out?
Yeah im hoping I can get an even canopy so i get good light distribution !![/QUOTE]

 

[hydrocropper420]

as far as thinning it out, you can take all the little leafy shit off the bottom, it waistes nutes, going to those little bud sites takes away from the mains where all the nute should be going, dont take off fan leaves just train them out of the way so your bud sites see the light, oh and obviously you cant see in my pis, but i got the fans just movin shit around, its really windy and the stalk gets really strong and thick, duringlights out i only have a small pc fan on low moving air, but lights on its movin also keeping the tentat a good 78 degrees with the 600hps!!!!

So would I be better off FIM'ing before I scrog it? Id get more tops and less stress to the rest of the plant? or is undergrowth not really used? How much of the undergrowth needs to be thinned out?
Yeah im hoping I can get an even canopy so i get good light distribution !!