UPS Seized package. What do I do?

ricky6991

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They will follow up on weight. I would get a good criminal defense attorney now and make 1 visit to establish a relationship. If they pop you the difference will be a swift, quality defense. How to find a good one? Go to the local superior criminal court and listen and wait for the lunch break and ask the court clerks and bailiffs for the heavy hitter. Then listen to the names that keep getting repeated. Go to speak with the top 1 or 2 and speak with them about this and their costs in case this becomes an issue. Then make arrangements for that fee to be EASILY & AUTOMATICALLY paid if necessary and take their card. If this becomes an issue say NOTHING just hand law enforcement the card and ONLY speak with your attorney.

Enforcement is not prepared for someone who has had quality legal advice prior to the problem arising. They also take advantage of the fact that from in jail you can not easily do this type of footwork so do it yesterday! Don't cheap out on this. You maybe able to avoid charges by doing this if you follow your attorneys advice and whatever you do do NOT lie to your attorney.
I like this guys thinking... listen to this.
 

ricky6991

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understand the pawns, not the issue. The question is if usps or ups is the better carrier.
IMO, ups and fedex will both search package if they want. But these are the safest for anything over 1 p.(size being major role play) usps will pick up yours based on package size and being federally owned. Although for small package or priority like other person said its a 2 day thing. If it isnt snatched then it show up on time. Doubtful they will throw a team together while the package is in transit still and it makes it to you when tracking originally said... if it is randomly delayed then youll know and get prepared.

Try another option of transit. Mabe ship a car privately or something of that sort. Alot of money to be made an at risk so worth putting thought into it.

Also not to be a dick but there are many people who do this regularly and dont get caught... if its smelled like herb to get opened then your careless with your packaging which is not smart and is not hard to take your time and clean everything and vacum seal multiple times ect.

At the end of the day theres so much risk of it all and its even on tv shows that 30% of calis pot stays in cali. Rest is shipped out. This isnt new and they are onto it.
 

Stillbuzzin

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Try to keep this in the back of your mind if it does go bad. You have the right to remain silent . This is where people fuck up. Keep your mouth shut no matter what they promise you. Just keep saying NO COMMENT
 

Kite High

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Try to keep this in the back of your mind if it does go bad. You have the right to remain silent . This is where people fuck up. Keep your mouth shut no matter what they promise you. Just keep saying NO COMMENT
i answer NOTHING without my attorney...stops all questioning dead
 

curious2garden

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Try to keep this in the back of your mind if it does go bad. You have the right to remain silent . This is where people fuck up. Keep your mouth shut no matter what they promise you. Just keep saying NO COMMENT
Actually where people fuck up is not planning for the contingency in the first place. Once you are in jail all communication is monitored so precisely how do you give instructions on how to get an attorney and what questions to ask? You really don't you rely on your significant other or just jail talk. While client/attorney conversations are privileged in jail no other conversation is and they are all taped. So right now is the time to make this visit and I'd make SURE I did this annually if this is something you engage in frequently. Just making sure you have support behind you in case.
 

Kite High

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Actually where people fuck up is not planning for the contingency in the first place. Once you are in jail all communication is monitored so precisely how do you give instructions on how to get an attorney and what questions to ask? You really don't you rely on your significant other or just jail talk. While client/attorney conversations are privileged in jail no other conversation is and they are all taped. So right now is the time to make this visit and I'd make SURE I did this annually if this is something you engage in frequently. Just making sure you have support behind you in case.
you are either an attorney, a real gangster/criminal or both...myself I am a retired criminal....and always did what you are screaming...costs lotsa $$ but with that cash flow its only a business cost
 

Jersey'sFinest

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all this folks to go after a fucken plant! seriously shit is assbackwards, lets let china roll over our infastructure but spend thousands trying to track down small herbs for fucks sake if you aint disgusted your not paying attention!
A-Fucking-Men. First thing this morning I was stopped at a light and a huge Coors Light 18 wheeler rolled up at the intersection. I thought to myself, "Fuck's sake, would it be so bad to have a big rig of sticky delivering to all the local distribs?" Of course a 400 lb gorilla with an AR would be riding shotgun...
 

Kart0oN

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to my knowledge USPS is the best carrier like sum1 mentioned before send it priority mail ship it trippled bagged vacuum sealed everyone seems to forget that USPS is hurting hard right now in the pocket they want all the money they can get there hands on package wise and they dont give a shit what you ship as long as it doesn't explode or kill anyone .... that being said the only mail USPS inspects is media mail which you cannot just send anything its reserved for papers / cds / manuscripts / screen plays etc etc ... go read the USPS website they state that "USPS has the right to inspect all MEDIA MAIL and there own discrection" nowhere on the site does it state that they can inspect and package for any reason i have looked into this alot because i sell and ship formula 420 solution which is ORM-D (limited quantity) which is not aloud in priority mail but to save costs i ship it priority mail regional A box havn't had a problem yet like i said before they dont give a shit BTW dont be stupid and ship it regional A which has a limit of up to 15lbs ship it regular priority or different regional method's with the weight you desire
 
Here's how it goes.

You NEVER use UPS or Fed Ex, they can and do open packages on a whim.

You always do use the United States Postal service. It requires a court order from a judge to actually open a package when using USPS.

Also you may have noticed a small sign at the post office that reads something like this "All mail over 12 ounces in weight, can't be sent by dumping it into a mail box with stamps on it. It has to be metered by a live postal agent.

That's your cut off point, 12 ounces or under including box and packaging weight. So yeah, more then a couple ounces a 1/4 max and your package takes on new meaning at the post office.

Having said that, ordering and shipping small amounts of weed, is much safer and easier then having seeds shipped from a foreign country.

The penalty if your caught is actually potentially much less. Look at Marc Emery, they wanted to give him a life sentnence for being a bean dealer.

My friend BC Bud, had 300 packages of dope go missing, I told him to stop immediatly but he didn't, he got caught with his pants down. And did about a 1 and 1/2 in a canadian jail. He's right back in the game now though.
 
Next if you did make the mistake of mailing other then USPS, or sent a large amount etc.

You need to remember to, deny deny deny!

NEVER admit to anything, so unless they knock on your door and want to personally hand you a box, (dont answer the door). You should be okay, if both parties keep their cool.

It's almost impossible to nab the sender, unless they have you staked out and you keep doing it.

The reciever is always the one they go for, and or try to make him talk about the sender. That's what they did with Marc Emery. Intercepted a number of his seed orders. Then put the squeeze on the recipients, to implicate Emery...
 

DANKSWAG

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No worries jail time is the stupid tax you have to pay... just hope you don't have any up coming taxes that are due. :bigjoint:
 

Corso312

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Everyone I know who exports n imports uses fed ex or ups..never usps. It happens, they get 3% of the loads...n not cause they are looking it happens when the pigs run dogs through the airport cargo..ups n fed ex don't give a fuck wats inside package.
 

DANKSWAG

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you are either an attorney, a real gangster/criminal or both...myself I am a retired criminal....and always did what you are screaming...costs lotsa $$ but with that cash flow its only a business cost
If your a true Criminal Kite High, you probably found a way to write that cost off... LOL
 

Bear Country

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to my knowledge USPS is the best carrier like sum1 mentioned before send it priority mail ship it trippled bagged vacuum sealed everyone seems to forget that USPS is hurting hard right now in the pocket they want all the money they can get there hands on package wise and they dont give a shit what you ship as long as it doesn't explode or kill anyone .... that being said the only mail USPS inspects is media mail which you cannot just send anything its reserved for papers / cds / manuscripts / screen plays etc etc ... go read the USPS website they state that "USPS has the right to inspect all MEDIA MAIL and there own discrection" nowhere on the site does it state that they can inspect and package for any reason i have looked into this alot because i sell and ship formula 420 solution which is ORM-D (limited quantity) which is not aloud in priority mail but to save costs i ship it priority mail regional A box havn't had a problem yet like i said before they dont give a shit BTW dont be stupid and ship it regional A which has a limit of up to 15lbs ship it regular priority or different regional method's with the weight you desire
They say it themselves...if it fits, it ships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Bear Country

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Next if you did make the mistake of mailing other then USPS, or sent a large amount etc.

You need to remember to, deny deny deny!

NEVER admit to anything, so unless they knock on your door and want to personally hand you a box, (dont answer the door). You should be okay, if both parties keep their cool.

It's almost impossible to nab the sender, unless they have you staked out and you keep doing it.

The reciever is always the one they go for, and or try to make him talk about the sender. That's what they did with Marc Emery. Intercepted a number of his seed orders. Then put the squeeze on the recipients, to implicate Emery...
To begin with your using some fucken random address as return address.....if there is a question with the person it was sent to......What??? What fucken Package....What??? that shit aint mine...I dont even know this fuck that sent this....sorry bro....cant help ya.....LAAAATTERRR
 

Dr. Skunk Bud

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i dont agree with the use a empty house method to ship to most of your postal delivery people have been doing it for a long time and would know that nobody lives in that house that would be the red flag you dont want
 

Corso312

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Those Cali n Colorado boys know they are going to lose a load here n there, cost of doin business ...its still better for them to lose a couple loads a year n get 4k n elbow over moving it locally for half that.
 
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