HELP :/ Dropping leaves out of nowhere??

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

This plant was doing great in the vegging tent... under a 150w hps
I just moved this strong healthy plant into the bloom tent. It chills alone in a larger tent under a 250w hps..

It is in a smart pot 3gal i believe with Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil.. I was misting the plant with carbonated water throughout it's veg cycle and watered it when the soil was dry.

Now all of a sudden this happens? I'm not using nutrients so i know it's not due to too much anything.. I cant imagine it being a lack of nutrients since it was doing perfectly fine for the past 7 weeks.

The leaves are now limp and do not have the ability to bounce back like they used to. The stems feel soft not hard and strong.
Fan leaves on the bottom do have brown spots but they are at the bottom i figured they are just withering they're not important anymore.

This plant was doing a great job now the day i put it in the new tent this happens.. :/

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

Temp is 75-78**

 

[SSHZ]

To me it looks like lack of water............ if it's well watered, then I would be looking in the dirt for bugs, eggs, etc- a root drench (Azatrol/Azamax) might be in order. Shame though, plant appears to be healthy, good color, nice development, etc. Could be a shock of some sort, notice the angle of the leaves. They are reducing sun/light catching ability with lower angle of leaves to help reduce stress. Something is definitely going on. A pic in a few days might be more helpful. Look for bugs on leaves and in soil, smell root ball for rot, check leaves for fungus, webs, discolorations. Recheck everything, water pH, nute ppm, tempts and humidity, air exhaust, etc to cover all your basis.....

 

[Curiosity2]

How close is the new light? And is the new tent temps hotterthan the vegg tent? It takes a day or two, to move the stronger wattage lightto the same height as the other was.

 

[armtjfvv]

I would be looking in the dirt for bugs

 

[420 happends]

it looks underwatered, when was the last watering? id move the lights up a pinch and see if she needs water asap

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

I was watering the plant when the soil got dry -I didn't water it today although it could use it.
the temp is 75-78 still I did move the new light up a little more. The temp stayed the same in the new tent.
I checked up on the veg tent today and found the second plant has all the same symptoms
i lifted the pot and found tiny little bugs crawling in the drip tray...don't look like spider mites tho..
the roots are coming out of the bottom of this plastic pot a little . They are a nice healthy white color tho.

I then checked the bloom tent. Lifted the pot and found no bugs but smaller root tips poking out the bottom of the smart pot.
I tried to smell the bottom of the pots.. Kinda felt weird doing this lol don't know what fungus or mold from soil smells like...it didn't smell like any usual type of mold.. Plant is getting worse :/

 

[DrKingGreen]

I was watering the plant when the soil got dry -I didn't water it today although it could use it.
the temp is 75-78 still I did move the new light up a little more. The temp stayed the same in the new tent.
I checked up on the veg tent today and found the second plant has all the same symptoms
i lifted the pot and found tiny little bugs crawling in the drip tray...don't look like spider mites tho..
the roots are coming out of the bottom of this plastic pot a little . They are a nice healthy white color tho.

I then checked the bloom tent. Lifted the pot and found no bugs but smaller root tips poking out the bottom of the smart pot.
I tried to smell the bottom of the pots.. Kinda felt weird doing this lol don't know what fungus or mold from soil smells like...it didn't smell like any usual type of mold.. Plant is getting worse :/

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If she needs the water don't hold out on her. Not sure what kind of bugs those are, but I haven't read of any beneficial insects that live in your drip tray so you may want to get on that. Get some pics of them. I'm sure I can figure out what they are for you or someone else can tell you with just a glance.

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

They're so tiny and I'm working with an iPhone ill try to get a pic tho now.. The leaves have been getting progesssively more spotted...yellow then brown spots. Some leaves I noticed o the bottom has a small hole... If these are mites or any type of pest would they be causing these healthy leaves to droop? Are they eating the roots ? Would neem oil be a good cure for these fuckers lol

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

These bugs are really tiny almost microscope. Here are some pics of the leaves tho...I couldn't find any bugs crawling on the leaves or on top of the soil..

 

[DrKingGreen]

Holes in your leaves definitely sound like those little f'ers are eating your plants. If you have a little microscope for telling when your trichs are ready, use it to check the bottoms of your leaves for tiny black spots where the damage is occurring.

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

Holes in your leaves definitely sound like those little f'ers are eating your plants. If you have a little microscope for telling when your trichs are ready, use it to check the bottoms of your leaves for tiny black spots where the damage is occurring.

I will have to get one , I'm going to the store tomorrow I gotta stop this from getting worse... I think I'm gonna get a ph reader as well as bud candy, cal/mag, and neem oil.. Would these be too much all at once? I figure these will help the plant with whatever it may need..kill the pests. Feed the plant. Give it some sugars /steroids lol

 

[farmerman421]

Ive dealt with spider mites and your pictures definitely show different symptoms. Spider mites cause much smaller, much more numerous small yellow spots. Whole leaf turns yellow green, not brown spots. You've got something else going on. I see browning along the margins. I looked up symptoms in grow bible, could be potassium. Here are the listed symptoms - plant appears healthy and green, leaves lose luster, branches are weak and scrawny, leaf margins turn grey and progress to a rusty brown color and curl up and dry, yellowing of older leaves accompanied by rust colored blotches, leaves curl up, rot sets in, flowering retarded. Potassium is used heavier during 12 / 12 light schedule. Use soluble potash fertilizer. Foliar feeding not recommended. Careful not to over fert or you'll lock the potassium out.

 

[Ninjabowler]

Those dots look kinda like dots i had once. It was diagnosed as potassium deficiancy, i always see it now in other peoples plants. It can be fixed most of the time. Feed her https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/609160-dots-leaf-veins-reddish-dots.html

 

[*BUDS]

This plant was doing great in the vegging tent... under a 150w hps
I just moved this strong healthy plant into the bloom tent

Light stress. Almost double the light plus a change in location is enough to cause this droop and stop it growing. To avoid this in future either raise the light 4' min or start them in a corner that doesnt get as much light. To get it back healthy again put it back in the veg room until it perks up then into a corner in the flower room. Another way to avoid it is to start them under the 250w.

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

Light stress. Almost double the light plus a change in location is enough to cause this droop and stop it growing. To avoid this in future either raise the light 4' min or start them in a corner that doesnt get as much light. To get it back healthy again put it back in the veg room until it perks up then into a corner in the flower room. Another way to avoid it is to start them under the 250w.

"I checked up on the veg tent today and found the second plant has all the same symptoms "

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

im gonna asumme its a nutrient deficiency.. both plants are about the same 7/8weeks old.. ive fed them nothing but water. i assume the nutrients from the soil have been used up and out of nowhere the plants reacted
i bought roots organic nutrients but idk anything about this so i just gave them both 10-15ml/.75gal of "root organic grow"

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

Within hours both plants bounced back completely !

I bought a variety of roots organic nutrients and fed both some roots grow and trinity.

 

[farmerman421]

Now just be careful not to over nute. Research what your plants need during flowering. And some nutrients remain in soil while others flush out, so specific nutrients can accumulate over time. Go on the light side, too much will damage your roots, lock out nutes, and you'll have deficiencies again. Do some research.

 

[Nizza]

if your pH is incorrect it may be several deficiencies your seeing. Looks to me the spots are a copper deficiency and then the yellowing is maybe cal-mag. if i were you, id give it a 1/3 dose of flower and 1/3 dose of veg nutes, with an added dose of micro nutrients. thats if the pH is correct though.