Please help newbie with fox farm nutrient chart for soil!!!

[daytona589]

I am using the FoxFarm Feeding schedule for SOIL. I am new to this so I need a little help with the EC and PPM. I know that EC is electrical conductivity and PPM is parts per million. So My question is when do I test? And how. I know I need EC and PPM meter . I thought that I should mix my water and nutrients then test PPM. But do I test the EC in the soil after i feed them a nutrients water mix. Or do I just test the nutrients and waternmix for EC? Or do I test both. And how long after feeding my plants should I test PH? I'm sure I sound like a dumb ass but got to start learning sometime. THANKS for helping!!!!!! GIRL GARDENER

 

[daytona589]

100 views an no reply... Please help.

 

[DANKSWAG]

If you do some reading at Newbie Central you will be on your way and allow us to answer questions other then how do I get started.
Not trying to be mean but folks here enjoying helping folks more through issues they are encountering along the way. I guess what I am saying is the basics have been answered and posted. There are many great references to get started, rather you want to play it safe with soil which is more lenient to newbies and the mistakes made in first time grows. Or you test your beginning skills with a more time consuming and complicated growing method in hydro (IMHO) HotRodHarley will might not think so but he was born in the water at one of them natural birthing things way back before it was cool. So he is pro water even for rookies. He thinks everyone has a dorsal fin on them somewhere.

After you've you gone to Newbie Central to study and study some more and then write your grow plan submit it for review before you go out and spend alot of money and time and get disappointed. Remember everything starts with good genes. So you'll want to know what kind of girl you want before you start.

There are primarily three things in excess most newbies will kill their plants with: Nutrients, Water and Heat\Light.
If you decide to go soil and you should review my grown journal discussion for a self feeding self watering system using soil.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal-discussion/632334-passive-hydro-super-soi-blue.html
Your could easily end up with something like this....

 

[DANKSWAG]

Did I mention the great thing about growing in soil is YOU GET TO GET DIRTY!
Actually the real pleasant thing besides the sweet taste is if your soil is right, no need to add any nutrients just add water and if you go with my passive hydro system then time spent checking soil's wetness is eliminated just keep the reservoir full of your favorite plain ole H20.

 

[GOD HERE]

If you do some reading at Newbie Central you will be on your way and allow us to answer questions other then how do I get started.
Not trying to be mean but folks here enjoying helping folks more through issues they are encountering along the way. I guess what I am saying is the basics have been answered and posted. There are many great references to get started, rather you want to play it safe with soil which is more lenient to newbies and the mistakes made in first time grows. Or you test your beginning skills with a more time consuming and complicated growing method in hydro (IMHO) HotRodHarley will might not think so but he was born in the water at one of them natural birthing things way back before it was cool. So he is pro water even for rookies. He thinks everyone has a dorsal fin on them somewhere.

After you've you gone to Newbie Central to study and study some more and then write your grow plan submit it for review before you go out and spend alot of money and time and get disappointed. Remember everything starts with good genes. So you'll want to know what kind of girl you want before you start.

There are primarily three things in excess most newbies will kill their plants with: Nutrients, Water and Heat\Light.
If you decide to go soil and you should review my grown journal discussion for a self feeding self watering system using soil.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal-discussion/632334-passive-hydro-super-soi-blue.html
Your could easily end up with something like this....
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I like how you shamelessly plug your own grow, and then I click on it and its tagged "Sweaty Ballsack" LOL

 

[GOD HERE]

Dear god,

Please know my heart is in the right place, though my sweaty ballsack is in your face.

Lol did you see that though?

 

[DANKSWAG]

Lol did you see that though?

LOL .... no

 

[daytona589]

I am already growing already got my equipment .

 

[DANKSWAG]

I am already growing already got my equipment .

I just don't understand why anyone would want to spend time adding nutrients to soil, especially in that matter? As opposed to feeding with organic teas.

If you went organic with your soil you can premix one time gallons of soil for many plants that will take them all the way to flower and all you add after that is light and water and a little tenderness. Why would you want to engage in increasing the amount of maintenance required with measuring nutrients and measuring water ppm and ec.? Why would you want to throw extra variables into your grow to complicate things and increase potential for error? It doesn't make any sense to me especially if you are already working with soil, understanding it's necessity in a active hydro system. But why putz around with a soil grow? Mix it right the first time plant it and water it and watch it grow.
Just saying cause I can 1st amendment mix your soil properly!

 

[DANKSWAG]

I am already growing already got my equipment .

That's what she said...

 

[daytona589]

I just don't understand why anyone would want to spend time adding nutrients to soil, especially in that matter? As opposed to feeding with organic teas.

If you went organic with your soil you can premix one time gallons of soil for many plants that will take them all the way to flower and all you add after that is light and water and a little tenderness. Why would you want to engage in increasing the amount of maintenance required with measuring nutrients and measuring water ppm and ec.? Why would you want to throw extra variables
into your grow to complicate things and increase potential for error? It doesn't make any sense to me especially if you are already working with soil, understanding it's necessity in a active hydro system. But why putz around with a soil grow? Mix it right the first time plant it and water it and watch it grow.
Just saying cause I can 1st amendment mix your soil properly!

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND why people think there way is the only way! I'm not an expert at growing but I'm 100% sure that there are MANY different ways to have a VERY successful harvest. Ignorance is not being able to learn . THE DAY I STOP LEARNING IS THE DAY I DIE!!! Sounds like you think you are GOD and you know EVERYTHING.. Only a fool think they know it ALL.

 

[DANKSWAG]

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND why people think there way is the only way! I'm not an expert at growing but I'm 100% sure that there are MANY different ways to have a VERY successful harvest. Ignorance is not being able to learn . THE DAY I STOP LEARNING IS THE DAY I DIE!!! Sounds like you think you are GOD and you know EVERYTHING.. Only a fool think they know it ALL.

I believe you’ve missed the point here. I never said there wasn't many ways. In fact I acknowledge there are various ways, what get's my jockstrap twisted in my crack is why would anyone want to piss into soil? If your going to learn hydro go all the way with an active system. As long as you use soil as a barrier you truly won’t know the delicate balance and care involved in maintaining an active system.

And yes sometime's I fail to see why anyone would intentionally would want to complicate their grow and introduce more opportunity for failure, from balancing the water to ensuring pumps and other related equipment don’t fail. It could be because of the need for something dependable and reliable and do not have the luxury or time to complicate growing for growing sake. Since that isn’t an issue for you good luck, however please respect soil for what it should be, mix it and forget it.

If you want to learn hydro, then why don’t you challenge yourself with an active system and remove the soil barrier, let’s see what you can do without a barrier to absorb your mistakes? Show me what you can do in an active system, curious to see how well you apply the knowledge you so desire to gain compared to how well you can use soil as buffer to cover for you.

 

[daytona589]

Once again you seem to think of yourself as some great important person . I do not need to " show" you anything. I'm sure you misunderstood the question that I was asking to begin this thread with. But that my fault for not wording the question well and rambling on. I never said anything about hydro. I would never say there is anything wrong with growing that way but soil is the way for me. I have never grown INSIDE but I have LOTS of growing experience. I have never used nutrients. That's why I tried asking the ? Trying to see if it was worth trying or not!

 

[Figong]

Once again you seem to think of yourself as some great important person . I do not need to " show" you anything. I'm sure you misunderstood the question that I was asking to begin this thread with. But that my fault for not wording the question well and rambling on. I never said anything about hydro. I would never say there is anything wrong with growing that way but soil is the way for me. I have never grown INSIDE but I have LOTS of growing experience. I have never used nutrients. That's why I tried asking the ? Trying to see if it was worth trying or not!

Fox farm you say? Here it is.. also in .pdf ...

Downloadable version: http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/images/pdf/SoilENG.pdf
Printer Friendly Version: http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/images/pdf/Soil BW-ENG.pdf

Hope this helps

Edit: saved it too soon.. hahaha

I thought that I should mix my water and nutrients then test PPM.
Yes

But do I test the EC in the soil after i feed them a nutrients water mix.
Yes, but before too.. check the runoff

And how long after feeding my plants should I test PH?
Since it'd be in the soil and not factoring the plant absorbing anything you put in, potentially changing it.. would say give them the watering/food.. then check it right then.

 

[daytona589]

Fox farm you say? Here it is.. also in .pdf ...

Downloadable version: http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/images/pdf/SoilENG.pdf
Printer Friendly Version: http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/images/pdf/Soil BW-ENG.pdf

Hope this helps

Edit: saved it too soon.. hahaha

I thought that I should mix my water and nutrients then test PPM.
Yes

But do I test the EC in the soil after i feed them a nutrients water mix.
Yes, but before too.. check the runoff

And how long after feeding my plants should I test PH?
Since it'd be in the soil and not factoring the plant absorbing anything you put in, potentially changing it.. would say give them the watering/food.. then check it right then.

THANK YOU SOOOOOO much. I really appreciate the help!!! Good to see there are stlii nice people in world today!!!!!

 

[DANKSWAG]

THANK YOU SOOOOOO much. I really appreciate the help!!! Good to see there are stlii nice people in world today!!!!!

Truth is you have used nutrients before they were in your soil, now that you went off and bought crap you didn't need so you can piss in your soil.

Did you note the last comment about how the soil now factors into correct ph and ppm?
Therefore I can't wait to diagnose your plants deficiencies and toxicities. Good luck pissing in your soil.

 

[GOD HERE]

Yeah we all grow like DANKSWAG, we use tap water, sprinkle in some happy feely stuff, adjust the PH, and get big happy plants. If you follow that formula you can't go wrong.

 

[Figong]

Speaking of pissing in soil, pre-done urea in these areas that's easily accessable is awesome for N... 46-0-0 specifically. - if anything, it'd be N-tox and nothing else in terms of soil/plant issue at that point.

 

[DANKSWAG]

Yeah we all grow like DANKSWAG, we use tap water, sprinkle in some happy feely stuff, adjust the PH, and get big happy plants. If you follow that formula you can't go wrong.

I’m kind of disappointed in you god, for being omniscient you seem to be very ignorant of my grow system.

But then again look at my grow journal discussion, the pictures don't lie
Big Happy Plants...
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal-discussion/632334-passive-hydro-super-soi-blue.html

 

[DANKSWAG]

Yeah we all grow like DANKSWAG, we use tap water, sprinkle in some happy feely stuff, adjust the PH, and get big happy plants. If you follow that formula you can't go wrong.

Don't forget to close your eyes and tap the back of your heels together while saying "I wish I had dankswag buds"