Tea baggers love feudalism.

Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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abandonconflict said:
Defending wage slavery is the act of fealty, being a proletarian opposed to unions for example. Being a wage slave is not necessarily. I agree with the assessment of options with which you concluded. Not all serfs swore fealty, but the ones who didn't were surely witches.
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and you continue to display your ignorance.

serfs didnt swear to shit. they had no ability to swear to shit. they were property, hereditarilly bound to the land they worked, and could only be free of those bonds by escaping to another territory and remaining un-captured for a year and a day.

if caught by the Shire Officers (who WERE oathbound in vassalage) they were dragged back in chains and put back on their farms or executed as outlaws.

if they successfully escaped for a year and a day they became "Villains" who could own property and could sign contracts or enter into vassalage.

the burghers and craftsmen were also not bound in fealty, they could and did travel freely wherever they chose provided the lord in the prospective location was willing to allow them to stay. these were to form the proto-capitlalist guilds which eventually spelled the end of feudalism.

but this all went right over your head.
 
deprave

deprave

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Socialism/Communism is actually a lot more like feudalism, you have your barons (middle class), your dukes (upper middle class), then your kings (upper class). Then you have the workers (everyone else) and nobody can ever move up in society except through inheritance(heirs) and succession, sounds like communism . Lets not forget the military aspect, a key factor in feudalism, you have your knights and their family and so forth which is kind of like the peoples army is it not? In fact just thinking about this feudalism seems entirely in line with stalin.
 
GOD HERE

GOD HERE

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lifegoesonbrah said:
Feudalism is birthright of defined class structures, AC can't tell the difference between that and free market capitalism.
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Most of you conservatives could be easily turned around by taking a basic sociology class, and learning why money gets easier to accumulate when you already have a lot of it, and the effect that has on the community. Hence why the inner cities are shitholes populated mostly by minorities.
 
GOD HERE

GOD HERE

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deprave said:
Socialism/Communism is actually a lot more like feudalism, you have your barons (middle class), your dukes (upper middle class), then your kings (upper class). Then you have the workers (everyone else) and nobody can ever move up in society except through inheritance(heirs) and succession, sounds like communism . Lets not forget the military aspect, a key factor in feudalism, you have your knights and their family and so forth which is kind of like the peoples army is it not? In fact just thinking about this feudalism seems entirely in line with stalin.
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You have your shit ass backwards. Communism is a classless society. Capitalism is a society BASED on class structure and authority. Socialism is relatively equal society, where workers own the product of their labor, so that the capitalist class (authority) can't steal it. This creates a far more equal society than capitalism. I'd go hit the books again if I were you. Btw, the Soviet union was not a Socialist or a communist society. It was authoritarian and a dictatorship, where workers did not own the product of their labor, etc, because a bunch of assholes used Marx's fatal flaw of the dictatorship of the proletariat as an excuse to exercise complete control over their citizens. This authority was kept in place by a strong propaganda/misinformation system and national identity. That is a form of right wing socialism. The difference between right and left in a society is that the right considers authority absolutely necessary for society to function and the left does not. If there were no authority (government) in capitalism to protect the capitalist class, what would give their actions any legitimacy? What would give money value? Who would enforce property rights? Who would keep their workers in line when they get rowdy or demand a more equitable share of the wealth that they created?
 
desert dude

desert dude

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GOD HERE said:
Most of you conservatives could be easily turned around by taking a basic sociology class, and learning why money gets easier to accumulate when you already have a lot of it, and the effect that has on the community. Hence why the inner cities are shitholes populated mostly by minorities.
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Most of you progressives could do with a little exposure to real science to help you shake that sociology pixie dust off your eyebrows. When you can integrate the area under the curve you can generally get a job. With sociology, not so much.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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desert dude said:
Most of you progressives could do with a little exposure to real science to help you shake that sociology pixie dust off your eyebrows. When you can integrate the area under the curve you can generally get a job. With sociology, not so much.
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Deciphering...

"I prefer a society where knowing a trade is a better aspiration than being smart."
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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desert dude said:
Most of you progressives could do with a little exposure to real science to help you shake that sociology pixie dust off your eyebrows. When you can integrate the area under the curve you can generally get a job. With sociology, not so much.
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I took calculus in high school 16 years ago. All it will get you is glares from your fellow McDonald's coworkers.
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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GOD HERE said:
Most of you conservatives could be easily turned around by taking a basic sociology class, and learning why money gets easier to accumulate when you already have a lot of it, and the effect that has on the community. Hence why the inner cities are shitholes populated mostly by minorities.
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GOD HERE said:
You have your shit ass backwards. Communism is a classless society. Capitalism is a society BASED on class structure and authority. Socialism is relatively equal society, where workers own the product of their labor, so that the capitalist class (authority) can't steal it. This creates a far more equal society than capitalism. I'd go hit the books again if I were you. Btw, the Soviet union was not a Socialist or a communist society. It was authoritarian and a dictatorship, where workers did not own the product of their labor, etc, because a bunch of assholes used Marx's fatal flaw of the dictatorship of the proletariat as an excuse to exercise complete control over their citizens. This authority was kept in place by a strong propaganda/misinformation system and national identity. That is a form of right wing socialism. The difference between right and left in a society is that the right considers authority absolutely necessary for society to function and the left does not. If there were no authority (government) in capitalism to protect the capitalist class, what would give their actions any legitimacy? What would give money value? Who would enforce property rights? Who would keep their workers in line when they get rowdy or demand a more equitable share of the wealth that they created?
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Hey abandonconflict, somebody is challenging you.

LOL, I really liked the "The difference between right and left in a society is that the right considers authority absolutely necessary for society to function and the left does not." That's a good one, lol.
 
GOD HERE

GOD HERE

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Mr Neutron said:
Hey abandonconflict, somebody is challenging you.

LOL, I really liked the "The difference between right and left in a society is that the right considers authority absolutely necessary for society to function and the left does not." That's a good one, lol.
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If you actually knew anything beyond Democratic and Republican politics, you'd understand why that is and you wouldn't sound like such a dumbass.
 
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ChesusRice

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A right wing wet dream is to have a society free of Goverment interference where business can thrive
Free of Labor laws, minimum wage rules osha

Like India
 
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