Bubbagineer
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Yeah, but it also looks like it has original research, I wonder if his test kits really work.... kickass if they do.
Looking for info on making RSO
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420circuit
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One way to find out.
NEEDMMASAP
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I seen this process on a U-tube video , what do you think of it , he uses Hemp oil , wondering if it would be better to use Coconut oil ? ---- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Sz8p1MWL8&feature=related&noredirect=1 --- Also he uses fresh trim , seems like most say to use dried trim , why is that ?
bshdctr
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Hey there,
1st off I apologize as it seems my documentation was a little confusing. The overheated oil was from the 1st cook off, and the second batch that soaked overnight was not overheated. The darker (than it would have been if not overheated) color from the 1st batch came from overheating while purging (needing no further decarbing) and the almost black dark color on the second batch came from an overnight soak and I did indeed decarb the 2nd oil in a 250 degree oven like normal. The 8 hour relaxing high I reported was from eating 1 1/4 grams of the 1st batch overheated oil. The second batch was actually what I ate while in California all this past week......and there was definitely less off a head and body high, pretty much the same pain killing ability, and a irritating feeling that it gave me stomach. I did not notice the stomach irritation from the 1st oil so maybe the extra chlorophyll was the cause?
Happy oil eating everybody!
420circuit
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These test kits look like quite a bit of setup and careful work is involved in the processing of the sample. I wonder if there is any software included so you can produce a nice report like the local testing companies provide. Also, when you set the kit up to run a sample, can you set it up for just a single sample and still get the large number of samples per kit as shown in the ad. If you can just run 1 or 2 and still get the large number of tests done, this would be a genuine cost savings and a good educational tool as well as I imagine you would get pretty good at estimating samples by dead reckoning after running a few dozen. Somebody should buy a kit and post a report.
With my small number of plants/strains it really doesn't make sense for me to have a kit, but I was planning to have testing done at a couple stages in my RSO project.I hope to run a batch of oil with White Widow and another with a high CBD strain, and have them both tested. It seems that taking the sample in for testing while still in a syringe would be best so that the capsules can be loaded with a known dosage. The syringe oil will have coconut oil already added, hopefully that is OK for doing the test.
NEEDMMASAP
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Yes I see what your saying about the chlorophyll , in this video ---- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Sz8p1MWL8&feature=related&noredirect=1 --- his process would have lots of chlorophyll , but what if his process was followed by Gray Wolf’s method of “ getting the green out ? http://skunkpharmresearch.com/getting-the-green-and-waxes-out-afterwards/
Bubbagineer
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I'm planning to make some oil this weekend. I will use an ounce of the R4, if they will sell me an ounce or two. I asked Greenwerkz if the pic from their newsletter was the R4, the gal answered that it wasn't, but this is. Looks funky.
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Bubbagineer
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Grrrr.... Never mind. This from Greenwerkz: We are out of stock at the moment on the R4
This is why I'm growing my own. The only MMC that I have seen that consistently kept high CBD flower on the shelf as promised is Natural Mystic with the Tora Bora and its THC content is too high for daytime meds.
Oh, the Greenwerkz email did say definitively that they would be giving away R4 seeds at their booth at the cup...
This is why I'm growing my own. The only MMC that I have seen that consistently kept high CBD flower on the shelf as promised is Natural Mystic with the Tora Bora and its THC content is too high for daytime meds.
Oh, the Greenwerkz email did say definitively that they would be giving away R4 seeds at their booth at the cup...
420circuit
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Not sure where I got this, might even be from a link that you posted, but it has a list of high CBD strains. There are a few groups working this problem and it is kind of exciting to be in the forefront of research, but it is unfortunate that the research has not already been done because it might have helped a lot of patients. I hope to grow out some seeds, maybe a couple from 303, based on the success that you are seeing so far, and some R4 if I can get a couple. My results with smoking Panacea are not real exciting, it just sits on the shelf next to the Lucy, which will get tested in a day or so. Getting things organized for an oil project with Everclear, still working out the distiller hardware. Looking forward to hearing your results, good luck with the chemistry lab results. Be sure to post what you do to decarbox to product, there is quite a range of opinion on that part as well as how long to soak and whether or not to freeze the raw materials before the soak. 
Bubbagineer
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Yes, CBDproject has good info, but the folks that run the website have been absent for a year or so.
CBD isn't sexy, but it works IMO if you take regulars doses.
I decided to build a still instead of buy the water distiller, I do love a DIY. It will look similar to the pic, but with a bit sturdier of a connection from the copper to the pressure cooker lidGetting things organized for an oil project with Everclear, still working out the distiller hardware. Looking forward to hearing your results, good luck with the chemistry lab results. Be sure to post what you do to decarbox to product, there is quite a range of opinion on that part as well as how long to soak and whether or not to freeze the raw materials before the soak.
If you stop the boil before all of the ethanol is gone, you will not exceed 173 degrees, and as cannabis starts to decarb at 180deg, the oil should not be active at this point. But as I want the oil to be active at the end of this exercise, I will just remove the lid and add an equal quantity of coconut oil and bring to 250 deg for an hour. Then draw it up straight to syringes.
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Bubbagineer
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Yes, we are around, just not in this thread 
I'm curious, did you decarb the RSO? If not, does it get you high? Cause it seems it wouldn't as naphtha supposedly boils at a lower temp than THCs vaporization point....
I'm curious, did you decarb the RSO? If not, does it get you high? Cause it seems it wouldn't as naphtha supposedly boils at a lower temp than THCs vaporization point....
Dayzt
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Yes we decarbed the oil. We used the exact Rick Simpson and boiled it right down until the added drops of water steamed off, them poured it into the tin dish and set it on a warmer for about an hour. It was still too runny yet at that point though (signifying that not all the Naphtha was gone), so I ended up putting it in the oven at 130 deg C for about an hour (decarboxylated). It bubbled quite a lot - we then syphoned into syringes once the bubbling stopped. Very thick oil now, and very strong. There is still a slight Naphtha taste, but not alot.
GreenPeak
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You should switch to grain, grape, sugar (pretty much any carbohydrate can make an alcohol of 190 proof) 190 proof alcohol since naphtha isn't all that healthy to ingest and you can get alcohol organic so your reducing toxins and giving people a wonderful medicine. Also pretty sure Naphtha contains a carcinogen and is derived from natural gas. Here is my thread and a website that I cited in referencing Naphtha.
http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0518.pdf notice the Cancer Hazard section on pg 2 as well as first section on first page
http://forum.seeddepot.nl/showthread.php?3070-How-To-Alcohol-Extracted-Activated-Cannabinoid-Oil Thread on RSO
http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0518.pdf notice the Cancer Hazard section on pg 2 as well as first section on first page
http://forum.seeddepot.nl/showthread.php?3070-How-To-Alcohol-Extracted-Activated-Cannabinoid-Oil Thread on RSO
Dayzt
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Thanks GreenPeak! I understand where you're coming from, and I realize the hazards of using Naphtha as the solvent for producing cannabis oil, but the Naphtha we're using is 'Light Aliphatic Naphtha', which doesn't contain Benzene, which is the element said to be cancer-causing. The MSDS for the product I've used states that it's 100% pure.
http://www.rrcoop.com/product_pdfs/MSDS/757013_CAMPING_FUEL.pdf
The links you've posted are for regular Naphtha which is indeed bad to use, most often having Benzene in it along with a host of other additives which make it extremely difficult to purge out..
But believe me, if it were as easy to get grain alcohol here Canada as it is in the US from organic stores, I would switch the solvent I use for sure. I've only yet just done a single batch of RSO, and we're using it as a maintenance dose - having no illnesses to treat. It works really well and also works extremely well mixed with skin moisturizer cream for topical use...