Buds normal size for 4 weeks?

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SSHZ

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Unhealthy periods in plants lives will reduce size of buds.....during those periods, plants are trying to survive, not produce buds. It can also delay flowering period. Here a pic of my current room at 4 weeks,,,,
 

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Rancho Cucamonga

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You have pH and overnute issues. Just looking at leaves you can see twisting, curling, canoeing and I imagine many are crispy or crispier than they should be.

What soil and nutes are you using?
 
manny9868

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SSHZ said:
Unhealthy periods in plants lives will reduce size of buds.....during those periods, plants are trying to survive, not produce buds. It can also delay flowering period. Here a pic of my current room at 4 weeks,,,,
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Good looking plants. Some of us are n't expert growers. That is the reason why this and other forums are up so we can get help.....now, why don't you post some diagnostic to this guy's plants with solutions..
 
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I wasn't knocking him or his grow.......just stating a fact about his overdose hurt the growth patterns. He knows he overdosed already, he stated that. I was just showing him a pic of healthy plants at 4 weeks too.
 
nuckyt

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burgertime2010 said:
do you have a ppm meter? what tvpe of soil?
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100% cana coco and no. I'd never even heard of ppm until recently. I do ph the water at 5.5 and it stays around there. My runoff is always 7. I do use a pure water filter dont know if that would matter or not.
 
nuckyt

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SSHZ said:
Unhealthy periods in plants lives will reduce size of buds.....during those periods, plants are trying to survive, not produce buds. It can also delay flowering period. Here a pic of my current room at 4 weeks,,,,
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thanks for the pic so I know what I did wrong however the claw like leaves will stay that way. The plant has plenty of healthy leaves plus healthy new growth. It stinks really bad and is super sticky with alot of crystals. So I'm thinking it will continue growing like normal again? I've cut way down on nutes and only fed water for a few weeks? Or have I speed up the maturing process because the pistils are changing brown now.
 
dopedeeii

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Flush um once then run water for a week then start ur nute program back at half first watering or two watch her if she's growing again and happy take ur nute program back to recommended levels more nutes dnt mean more bud just give them wat they need and when u have a few grows under your belt add on but ur p.h shouldn't jump that high from 5.5 with that much of a change ur real soil p.h most likely in the mid to high 7's I really think its a salt build up causing p.h trip
 
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SSHZ

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I think coco is supposed to have a pH of between 5.8-6.0- that is ideal and you should try to always be in that range.
 
Rancho Cucamonga

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nuckyt said:
cana coco and tiger bloom
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As for the runoff 7 is even too high for soil, for coco it's worse. You want to be under 6 pH runoff in coco, maybe 6.2 in the last half of flower but I've seen coco grows where it was 5.5-5.7 all the way through with great results. I'm not positive as I use soil, but I believe in coco you need to periodically flush because coco tends to hold salts in if that is the right term. So salts and high pH seems to be your issue.

As for nutes tiger bloom is all you have used for bloom nutes? Tiger is really a secondary bloom nute in the fox farm system. It works best with big bloom which is quite weak but works very well and contributes to the overall health of your plants. Big bloom is great for seedlings and should be used throughout the grow and in conjunction with smaller doses of tiger once buds begin to form, tiger is very strong and only the most nute tolerant strains can handle even the recommended doses. I only use tiger through weeks 2-6 of flower every other fed at 1/2-3/4 doses.
In the future definitely grab big bloom in large amounts, and the three solubles if you can(open sesame-beastie bloomz-cha ching) using these along with tiger at 1/2 strength doses make for a great system.
But being you are in coco I can't give details or experiences because I use soil.

Do you use a cal-mag product? In coco it's a must.
 
nuckyt

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Rancho Cucamonga said:
As for the runoff 7 is even too high for soil, for coco it's worse. You want to be under 6 pH runoff in coco, maybe 6.2 in the last half of flower but I've seen coco grows where it was 5.5-5.7 all the way through with great results. I'm not positive as I use soil, but I believe in coco you need to periodically flush because coco tends to hold salts in if that is the right term. So salts and high pH seems to be your issue.

As for nutes tiger bloom is all you have used for bloom nutes? Tiger is really a secondary bloom nute in the fox farm system. It works best with big bloom which is quite weak but works very well and contributes to the overall health of your plants. Big bloom is great for seedlings and should be used throughout the grow and in conjunction with smaller doses of tiger once buds begin to form, tiger is very strong and only the most nute tolerant strains can handle even the recommended doses. I only use tiger through weeks 2-6 of flower every other fed at 1/2-3/4 doses.
In the future definitely grab big bloom in large amounts, and the three solubles if you can(open sesame-beastie bloomz-cha ching) using these along with tiger at 1/2 strength doses make for a great system.
But being you are in coco I can't give details or experiences because I use soil.

Do you use a cal-mag product? In coco it's a must.
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Nope no cal-mag and I know I should be. Tiger bloom is strong I learned the hard way lol. I didn't know about the big bloom I thought you were supposed to stop using it during flower. I guess I really should have just stuck with the Cana A-B nutes? :/
 
RIKNSTEIN

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nuckyt said:
thanks for the pic so I know what I did wrong however the claw like leaves will stay that way. The plant has plenty of healthy leaves plus healthy new growth. It stinks really bad and is super sticky with alot of crystals. So I'm thinking it will continue growing like normal again? I've cut way down on nutes and only fed water for a few weeks? Or have I speed up the maturing process because the pistils are changing brown now.
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wait till ur clear triches are milky or about 30% amber, then they'll be ready..
 
dopedeeii

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I run coco ss#4 advanced my mix is to part ss#4 1part ffof and dolomite lime coco does collect salts but if u water till u get 10% runnoff it shouldn't build up as much I still recommend flush ever 4 weeks of the plants life and I ph my water at 6-6.3 but 7 is to high and for Cal mag if u use tap water its already trace amounts in it I add molasses to every feed 5ml per gal to give them a lil more its had to over do organics and I dnt know the ratio of Cal&mag in the tap so it want hurt
 
dopedeeii

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And how I measure ph runoff is if I water with 6.0 water and get a 5.5 runoff (not2big difference) I'll figure it to really be the half way point of the two. 5.75
 
nuckyt

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dopedeeii said:
I run coco ss#4 advanced my mix is to part ss#4 1part ffof and dolomite lime coco does collect salts but if u water till u get 10% runnoff it shouldn't build up as much I still recommend flush ever 4 weeks of the plants life and I ph my water at 6-6.3 but 7 is to high and for Cal mag if u use tap water its already trace amounts in it I add molasses to every feed 5ml per gal to give them a lil more its had to over do organics and I dnt know the ratio of Cal&mag in the tap so it want hurt
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I do use tap water, ph 5.5.
 
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