LED Companies w/ LINKS
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Eraserhead
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What's up guys? Cool to see some of you stayed awake to see the new site launch.
I've been working on that site here and there for about a month, then spent the entire day since 4am yesterday morning on it, and even during commercials when The Walking Dead was on. Any other TWD fans out there?
Yeah, shipping to Canada is a little steep. We're looking for cheaper options, including renting warehouse space there and shipping locally (more than likely that's what we'll do, about 35% of all our sales is from our friends to the North).
As for plans for other sizes, well, none yet. We spent a long time designing that model, trying to get the most Umol'/s per cubic foot with the least amount of watts. And since we do use mostly white, it was a no-brainer to use Cree's. The XPE red Cree's are pretty decent too. We do only use the highest bins they have for both. We're testing the XTE's right now, and will also test some MKR's later this year, but those will be housed in the same 12" x 18" case if/when we change to them. We'll be with that housing case for a couple of years at least.
I could have built this light with low bin Epileds and sell them for $350 each and probably have even more watts, and still have the same profit margin. These are all about efficiency though. Watts are only a measurement of what the power they use, nothing to do with the power they put out.
In the amount of time it took to type this all out, a good chuck of our inventory is already gone!
There's less than 15 remaining units guys not including units already spoken for, they're moving quick. We have another 150 units being made right now and should follow this first batch by about 10 days.
I've been working on that site here and there for about a month, then spent the entire day since 4am yesterday morning on it, and even during commercials when The Walking Dead was on. Any other TWD fans out there?
Yeah, shipping to Canada is a little steep. We're looking for cheaper options, including renting warehouse space there and shipping locally (more than likely that's what we'll do, about 35% of all our sales is from our friends to the North).
As for plans for other sizes, well, none yet. We spent a long time designing that model, trying to get the most Umol'/s per cubic foot with the least amount of watts. And since we do use mostly white, it was a no-brainer to use Cree's. The XPE red Cree's are pretty decent too. We do only use the highest bins they have for both. We're testing the XTE's right now, and will also test some MKR's later this year, but those will be housed in the same 12" x 18" case if/when we change to them. We'll be with that housing case for a couple of years at least.
I could have built this light with low bin Epileds and sell them for $350 each and probably have even more watts, and still have the same profit margin. These are all about efficiency though. Watts are only a measurement of what the power they use, nothing to do with the power they put out.
In the amount of time it took to type this all out, a good chuck of our inventory is already gone!
There's less than 15 remaining units guys not including units already spoken for, they're moving quick. We have another 150 units being made right now and should follow this first batch by about 10 days.
RainerRocks
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Are these units dimmable ?
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Eraserhead
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They are not. Dimmers lower the life of the diodes, and it'd conflict with our lifetime warranty. We want them to last as long as possible, or else it could cost us more than we make.
There's just 1 on/off switch for the reds to engage the flowering mode.
The whites only draw 135w, and the reds only draw 30w, dimmers wouldn't really help much anyways for that small of a light.
There's just 1 on/off switch for the reds to engage the flowering mode.
The whites only draw 135w, and the reds only draw 30w, dimmers wouldn't really help much anyways for that small of a light.
RainerRocks
Active Member
Oh Ok ..I didn't know dimmers lower the life of the diodes ( I thought it was the opposite ) but I'm new at this so it's good to know. Now I have to rethink my DIY panel...Dooohhhh
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They are not. Dimmers lower the life of the diodes, and it'd conflict with our lifetime warranty. We want them to last as long as possible, or else it could cost us more than we make.
There's just 1 on/off switch for the reds to engage the flowering mode.
The whites only draw 135w, and the reds only draw 30w, dimmers wouldn't really help much anyways for that small of a light.
Eraserhead
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They do not lower them by too much, but enough to concern me, if there's a lifetime warranty involved, you have to check into all aspects.
We're pretty into DIY too, we actually base all of our actual panels off of DIY findings. If you need some pointers on parts and whatnot, hit me up. We can send you in the right direction. Nothing we sell, but places we've been satisfied buying from.
My PM's are shut off, I'm not too keen on people sending messages to me over A51 sales stuff, respect for the site rules and all, I got too many, so... I'm just an email away.
We're pretty into DIY too, we actually base all of our actual panels off of DIY findings. If you need some pointers on parts and whatnot, hit me up. We can send you in the right direction. Nothing we sell, but places we've been satisfied buying from.
My PM's are shut off, I'm not too keen on people sending messages to me over A51 sales stuff, respect for the site rules and all, I got too many, so... I'm just an email away.
Highocaine
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I ended up pulling the trigger on the new model. I hope it won't be regretted. Let's also hope customs doesn't tax me.. yeah, right.
Eraserhead
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Never had 1 report about Canadian customs fees. Shouldn't have anything to worry about.
Spain and Chile are a different story.
Spain and Chile are a different story.
Highocaine
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Good to hear. They slap $10 + 12% to everything that hasn't been taxed already...
ellydee
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How many things do we buy that actually pay for themselves the first time we use them? Not too many.
hyroot
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It depends. Who you deal with. You are at the discretion of the agent or officer. They can charge or not charge what ever they please. Same with entering Canada too. My uncle had a Dui from 15 years ago and had to pay $1500 to enter the country because of that at the airport. Then when I ordered from kicktrading. ca I had to pay $40 duty / custom fee on a $35 item. Ordering sheet metal from alnmioc I had to $24 duty on $38 of sheet metal plus shipping cost.
Beefbisquit
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Unofficially 1200ish @ 12" @ 165W.
PSUAGRO.
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the #'s should be pretty high.......measures over 100 umol from forty inches away and the recommended distance is twenty for inches in veg (?)I imagine......EH will clarify the info
Do you know what the Apache RW panel puts out at certain heights??
tags420
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Nice. What distance is that from?
They average about 1050umols @12". depending on the spectrum. The all whites are at 1100umols@12". But recommended height is 18"... I rock mine at 30"+ for veg.
I just ordered my own par meter so I don't have to borrow anymore. Once I have it I will give my official reading of all the spectrums I have. Plus at my canopy which is what will actually matter.
Beefbisquit
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Pretty sure it's @ 12"...
hyroot
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On the apache tech site it says Avg. PPF 700 µmol/m2/s @45 cm
http://www.apachetechinc.com/cms.php?id_cms=4
http://www.apachetechinc.com/cms.php?id_cms=4
tags420
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^^^Ya they say that but the numbers don't quite match up. They have some videos in the media section that show some field measurements.
Since I have seen it shown as 1000-1100umols@12" and the avg700umols@18" and those numbers don't quite match up. I did the math based on each one being true.
Situation #1 assumes that 1090umol@12" is the truest measurement...1r=12"
1090=S/4(pie)r^2
S=1090 (12.566371)
S=13697.344
Now move to 18"... r=1.5
I=13967.344/4(pie)(1.5)^2
I=13,697.344/28.274334
"I" should = 484.444umol...not 700
Situation #2 assumes that 700umol@18" is the truest measurement...1r=18"
700=S/4(pie)r^2
S=8,796.46
Now move back to 12" or (2/3)r
I=8,796.46/4(pie)(2/3)^2
I=8.796.46/5.5851
"I" should = 1574.99umol...not 1090
I have seen 1090 on my own single unit so I personally think that to be the truest situation. But if the average is from a line/array of AT's then the crossover can inflate the reading.
Either way 12" seems to be the new standard measuring point. Until the units get big enough that we need to measure from farther to capture the maximum. Very few companies are actually putting out 1000umol+@12" and any one that does is worth a chance IMO. Specially in the <200w category.
Since I have seen it shown as 1000-1100umols@12" and the avg700umols@18" and those numbers don't quite match up. I did the math based on each one being true.
Situation #1 assumes that 1090umol@12" is the truest measurement...1r=12"
1090=S/4(pie)r^2
S=1090 (12.566371)
S=13697.344
Now move to 18"... r=1.5
I=13967.344/4(pie)(1.5)^2
I=13,697.344/28.274334
"I" should = 484.444umol...not 700
Situation #2 assumes that 700umol@18" is the truest measurement...1r=18"
700=S/4(pie)r^2
S=8,796.46
Now move back to 12" or (2/3)r
I=8,796.46/4(pie)(2/3)^2
I=8.796.46/5.5851
"I" should = 1574.99umol...not 1090
I have seen 1090 on my own single unit so I personally think that to be the truest situation. But if the average is from a line/array of AT's then the crossover can inflate the reading.
Either way 12" seems to be the new standard measuring point. Until the units get big enough that we need to measure from farther to capture the maximum. Very few companies are actually putting out 1000umol+@12" and any one that does is worth a chance IMO. Specially in the <200w category.