Under Watering? Nitrogen Toxicity?

SamWaterstone

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Before i realized my Bug Problem (https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/641407-bugs-wtf.html), i was having the Leaf Curl and Droopy Leaf problem.
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At first i was told that it was Nitrogen Toxicity; that was 5 days ago, and I have not seen major browning of the leaves. Throughout her lifetime i've only fed her once a week along with her nutrients. Just One Full Gallon and She's in a 10 gallon Fabric Pot. I was told that this was insufficient water and that i should water more often with less water. So on her last feeding schedule, i only gave her 1.5 gallons of pure R.O. water set @ 6.5pH. She did prop up a bit but then back down. Could she be suffering from under-watering? Or Nitro Tox? I really want to avoid Flushing her since i will have to use 30 gallons of water.

hope i;m not being a pest with all my questions. Hopefully one day, i can be answering more questions on this forum and lend a hand to the newbies.


Sam.

p.s.

Soil: Roots Organics 707
Nutes: Roots Organics 5ml Master Feeding Schedule.
Light. Apollo 600w MH Still in Veg mode for one more week.
 

SamWaterstone

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Also, i've read that too much light can be harmful sometimes. MaryJane in her natural habitat does not receive 24 hours of light plus different other Shades and such. Should i turn off the ballast for 2 hours and giver her some rest from the photosynthesis?
 

Sativied

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Based on the fact you use smartpots that require more watering as it vapes faster, and that on the last pic the soil (what is that?) looks very light i.o.w. dry and that with overwatering the leafs tend to cup more, the stems of the leafs would be more curved up first and then down, I have to go with underwatering. So I agree with the advice you already got, water more often with less water.

See my sig, even more true for smartpots...
 

amsterdam2015

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From my limited experience id say its Nitrogen toxicity, it seems to be excessive nutrients claw the tips down, whereas water related (under/over) the whole leaf will go limp or curl down at the point at which it meets the petiole.. (the small leaf stem)
 

tusseltussel

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who ever told you less water more often is a fucking moron. flood that pot make shore you have a a lot of run off. the leaves do look a little full but healthy backoff the nutes and every time you water, water heavy
 

SamWaterstone

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What if it's both? Should i feed it without the Nitrogen? Should i Flush first?

I have Roots Organics 707 soil that i topped with Coco Fiber.
 
Are you runing that light around the clock? If your running that light around the clock your not giving that plant a rest and it is under watered. Think about it, if you where in the sun 24/7 you'd be awful thirsty and then on top of it you only get 1 drink a week.
 

SamWaterstone

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who ever told you less water more often is a fucking moron. flood that pot make shore you have a a lot of run off. the leaves do look a little full but healthy backoff the nutes and every time you water, water heavy
I've only been using R.O. water to feed it. Is it ok to flush it with Tap that has sat out for 24 hours? But damn! Do i really need 30 gallons worth of water to flush?>
 

Sativied

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Regardless of the pictures, if that's 1-1.5 gallon per week, that's not nearly enough for such a large smartpot with a plant that size. Underwatering is a common problem for people switching to smartpots. I gave roughly the same (based on measuring) total per week, in smaller plastic 6 gallon pots. Try 1/4 to 1/2 gallon per day.

http://www.smartpots.com/faq#4

And linked sig, includes pics from smartpot user...

Edit: dont't flush, like you said that was suggested 4 days ago already. Obviously your plants aren't burning and with the underwatering they obviously aren't getting that many nutes so flushing might just make it worse. Just water it daily and it will be fine.
 

Sativied

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who ever told you less water more often is a fucking moron. flood that pot make shore you have a a lot of run off.
Ouch, harsh, well I assume that person meant give less than that 1-1.5 gallon but give it more often, like daily which would increase the total a lot. And not as in give less than that 1-1.5 total per week. Pretty sure actually cause the OP mentioned he/she who suggested it also mentioned insufficient watering and clearly suggested to give more water in total and give it more frequently than weekly.
 

SamWaterstone

Active Member
Are you runing that light around the clock? If your running that light around the clock your not giving that plant a rest and it is under watered. Think about it, if you where in the sun 24/7 you'd be awful thirsty and then on top of it you only get 1 drink a week.
Yes. I am running it 24 hours. You make a lot sense. She must be very thirsty. Hmmmmm
 
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