Hydro Research Veg & Bloom

[chuck estevez]

VB is designed to be used around 1 teaspoon per gallon! So if you add 1 teaspoon to 1 cup of water you are over saturating the water with VB! It will cause issues the same as if you added 4 times as much hot coco mix to 1 cup of water! It will not dissolve! Do your self a favor mix 5 grams of Vb and a gallon of water and shake well you should be ok. I always weight out my VB instead of using teaspoon. It is 5.5 grams to a teaspoon! Start your young ones at 25%-50% and increase from there, amazing results are waiting. As soon as you get that mix going well let me know and I can turn you on to some great additives that work great with VB.

How long have you worked for them?

 

[Bakatare666]

VB is designed to be used around 1 teaspoon per gallon! So if you add 1 teaspoon to 1 cup of water you are over saturating the water with VB! It will cause issues the same as if you added 4 times as much hot coco mix to 1 cup of water! It will not dissolve! Do your self a favor mix 5 grams of Vb and a gallon of water and shake well you should be ok. I always weight out my VB instead of using teaspoon. It is 5.5 grams to a teaspoon! Start your young ones at 25%-50% and increase from there, amazing results are waiting. As soon as you get that mix going well let me know and I can turn you on to some great additives that work great with VB.

I realize the overdosing of the cup issue, that's why I do it several times, pouring into the jug and shaking, then pour some of that back into the cup to stir some more.
I'm waiting for an email back from Chris, but I'll wait and see.
My last plant, I used the V & B the last month or so, and wasn't impressed.
I'm not saying it's bad, but it's not something I would recommend to others.

 

[Kite High]

vb is a gimmick...if it weren't they would fully disclose the ingredients but they do not....

 

[tried it all]

Ok Chuck I do not work for VB, i work for myself. No connections to any nute company!
Baka Let me get this straight, you put your VB in a cup mix with water, dilute and rinse and repeat. When you first mixed it the damage was done. Mix with 1 gallon of water straight away and shake well! I first tried VB in the last month of a grow and saw no difference. the next crop I started right away and it worked as well as any nute did in veg. I started to see a difference about 3 weeks into flower.
Usually I had some kinda issue with this or that. But with Vb nice and green with no issues and lotsa frost. continued with VB til flush and it just looked killer frosty, juicey nugs! But after drying and a short cure wow! Taste better than any big nute line, yes I have used most of them at one time or another.
Kite VB is not a gimmick, does AN or any other nute company advertise all the goodies in there products, nope. With all the rip off artists in the nute industry I wouldnt either! This is not my first rodeo and I am a constant tinker! I always mess with the nutes or set up. Well now its kinda boring because I have no need to mess with my nute schedule, I use the same formula from second week of veg til second week of flower and the then use a standard mix til flush which is minimal! The additives I use I came from constant testing, trail and error! Do you need to use additives with VB, Nope! But i have squeaked a few more gpw out and improved taste and visual appeal.
I get better results now than I did when I spending $1k every 2 months for nutes.

 

[Bakatare666]

Ok Chuck I do not work for VB, i work for myself. No connections to any nute company!
Baka Let me get this straight, you put your VB in a cup mix with water, dilute and rinse and repeat. When you first mixed it the damage was done. Mix with 1 gallon of water straight away and shake well! I first tried VB in the last month of a grow and saw no difference. the next crop I started right away and it worked as well as any nute did in veg. I started to see a difference about 3 weeks into flower.
Usually I had some kinda issue with this or that. But with Vb nice and green with no issues and lotsa frost. continued with VB til flush and it just looked killer frosty, juicey nugs! But after drying and a short cure wow! Taste better than any big nute line, yes I have used most of them at one time or another.
Kite VB is not a gimmick, does AN or any other nute company advertise all the goodies in there products, nope. With all the rip off artists in the nute industry I wouldnt either! This is not my first rodeo and I am a constant tinker! I always mess with the nutes or set up. Well now its kinda boring because I have no need to mess with my nute schedule, I use the same formula from second week of veg til second week of flower and the then use a standard mix til flush which is minimal! The additives I use I came from constant testing, trail and error! Do you need to use additives with VB, Nope! But i have squeaked a few more gpw out and improved taste and visual appeal.
I get better results now than I did when I spending $1k every 2 months for nutes.

OK, I'll give it one more shot in a couple days when I feed next.
Thanks.

 

[Kite High]

Ok Chuck I do not work for VB, i work for myself. No connections to any nute company!
Baka Let me get this straight, you put your VB in a cup mix with water, dilute and rinse and repeat. When you first mixed it the damage was done. Mix with 1 gallon of water straight away and shake well! I first tried VB in the last month of a grow and saw no difference. the next crop I started right away and it worked as well as any nute did in veg. I started to see a difference about 3 weeks into flower.
Usually I had some kinda issue with this or that. But with Vb nice and green with no issues and lotsa frost. continued with VB til flush and it just looked killer frosty, juicey nugs! But after drying and a short cure wow! Taste better than any big nute line, yes I have used most of them at one time or another.
Kite VB is not a gimmick, does AN or any other nute company advertise all the goodies in there products, nope. With all the rip off artists in the nute industry I wouldnt either! This is not my first rodeo and I am a constant tinker! I always mess with the nutes or set up. Well now its kinda boring because I have no need to mess with my nute schedule, I use the same formula from second week of veg til second week of flower and the then use a standard mix til flush which is minimal! The additives I use I came from constant testing, trail and error! Do you need to use additives with VB, Nope! But i have squeaked a few more gpw out and improved taste and visual appeal.
I get better results now than I did when I spending $1k every 2 months for nutes.

All the ingredients are exactly listed in my nutrients I use. And that is Dynagro

 

[spek9]

I usually heat 1 cup of water to 1 tsp, and stir vigorously, then dilute into a gallon milk jug and shake like hell. Even then, I don't get it all dissolved, so I try to shake and pour real fucking fast.

LOL water came out of my nose at the thought of watching you perform that stunt

-spek

 

[chuck estevez]

Ok Chuck I do not work for VB, i work for myself. No connections to any nute company!
Baka Let me get this straight, you put your VB in a cup mix with water, dilute and rinse and repeat. When you first mixed it the damage was done. Mix with 1 gallon of water straight away and shake well! I first tried VB in the last month of a grow and saw no difference. the next crop I started right away and it worked as well as any nute did in veg. I started to see a difference about 3 weeks into flower.
Usually I had some kinda issue with this or that. But with Vb nice and green with no issues and lotsa frost. continued with VB til flush and it just looked killer frosty, juicey nugs! But after drying and a short cure wow! Taste better than any big nute line, yes I have used most of them at one time or another.
Kite VB is not a gimmick, does AN or any other nute company advertise all the goodies in there products, nope. With all the rip off artists in the nute industry I wouldnt either! This is not my first rodeo and I am a constant tinker! I always mess with the nutes or set up. Well now its kinda boring because I have no need to mess with my nute schedule, I use the same formula from second week of veg til second week of flower and the then use a standard mix til flush which is minimal! The additives I use I came from constant testing, trail and error! Do you need to use additives with VB, Nope! But i have squeaked a few more gpw out and improved taste and visual appeal.
I get better results now than I did when I spending $1k every 2 months for nutes.

and I have some swampLand in florida for sale cheap,lol

 

[Cuebossa]

Some of you guys post like you are threatened by the stuff. If it didn't work I wouldn't use it. It's a powdered plant food, get over it haha

 

[chuck estevez]

Some of you guys post like you are threatened by the stuff. If it didn't work I wouldn't use it. It's a powdered plant food, get over it haha

I tried it and it was crap, jack's 20-20-20 killed it start to finish and dissolves in seconds.

 

[Cuebossa]

Chuck seems a little under pressure haha it's a plant food.. and it works really well get over it

Veg+Bloom results;

 

[chuck estevez]

yeah,even the admin of this site says you are a spammer and every time someone says how much it sucks, you get all Butthurt and defensive. LMFAO

 

[Bakatare666]

Cue, I think I remember you from the V & B thread the couple times I started reading a few pages, and as with everything, there will be haters and users, it's kinda like MG, but to less of an extreme so far.
I didn't mean to start a fucking flaming thread here, I just wanted to know if I was the only one having problems dissolving the shit, because then I could narrow it down to either a bad batch, or operator error.
I have no complaints about the results of it, I know it works, because when I start getting a couple weak colored leafs, I feed, and it stops.
I just haven't seen my plants do any amazing shit with it yet.

 

[Cuebossa]

Well said Bakatare. I'm a fan of good commentary. Forums are great for sharing info. I can say that after trying other cheaper and more expensive products, Veg+bloom has earned its place in my garden. It is really easy and grows very resinous flowers. I haven't had any problems with it. If I had issues I would just contact the manufacturer as I believe you said you had.

 

[Bakatare666]

Well said Bakatare. I'm a fan of good commentary. Forums are great for sharing info. I can say that after trying other cheaper and more expensive products, Veg+bloom has earned its place in my garden. It is really easy and grows very resinous flowers. I haven't had any problems with it. If I had issues I would just contact the manufacturer as I believe you said you had.

Thanks man, when I start a thread, I'm not trying to start a shitfest, I just want to get opinions, which is what I thought forums were for.

 

[chuck estevez]

Thanks man, when I start a thread, I'm not trying to start a shitfest, I just want to get opinions, which is what I thought forums were for.

sorry If you can't see that this dude is the owner of VB and everything he says is biased. That is NOT how a forum works.

read this thread, then you might get it

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/513971-veg-bloom-grow.html


from the admin

• Of course he's a spammer, he just admitted to spamming at least 3 other forums.
  
  Companies like this that abuse forums because they are too cheap to actually pay for advertising should be avoided.​
  
  
  
  

 

[Bakatare666]

sorry If you can't see that this dude is the owner of VB and everything he says is biased. That is NOT how a forum works.

read this thread, then you might get it

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/513971-veg-bloom-grow.html


from the admin

• Of course he's a spammer, he just admitted to spamming at least 3 other forums.
  
  Companies like this that abuse forums because they are too cheap to actually pay for advertising should be avoided.​
  
  

That's funny you point me to that thread, (which I already knew about but had forgotten about and wasn't subbed) and found a couple of posts I had made, along with someone else that had mentioned it didn't dissolve very well, and I found something else too.

Thanks, but I already went through almost a lb. of it. I just didn't get the same results as I do with FN, and I went through it faster too. So it actually cost more for me to use the V+B. It worked great in veg though, and I like how clean it is. It doesn't dissolve very well, but cleans up easy.

Found the same problem.

 

[tried it all]

Yo Chucky I have tried Jacks worked good just not to my liking or my patients liking! Hell Dr Pepper and piss is good if you wanna go that way! Is VB the best who knows but it works killer in my system and thats all that matters! Everyone has a point of view and not everyone likes what anyone else has to say! I have talked to Chris several times on the phone and really dont think Cue and him are the same person. But if they are Cue I want a discount damn it!!! I know several growers in real life and we all use different nute lines, each grower has to find there niche and run with it. Now I have no clue why you interjected in this thread but your grow cred is lowering as we speak. I will make sure to skip any and all post by you! Ty for helping me sort you out of the credible info department!

 

[Bakatare666]

Yo Chucky I have tried Jacks worked good just not to my liking or my patients liking! Hell Dr Pepper and piss is good if you wanna go that way! Is VB the best who knows but it works killer in my system and thats all that matters! Everyone has a point of view and not everyone likes what anyone else has to say! I have talked to Chris several times on the phone and really dont think Cue and him are the same person. But if they are Cue I want a discount damn it!!! I know several growers in real life and we all use different nute lines, each grower has to find there niche and run with it. Now I have no clue why you interjected in this thread but your grow cred is lowering as we speak. I will make sure to skip any and all post by you! Ty for helping me sort you out of the credible info department!

Thanks for your opinion dude.
I was getting the feel that chuck was a troll of sorts, you see how I quoted his quote from the other thread where he agreed with somebody about V&B being hard to dissolve, but comes to my thread and says that Cue is a rep.
I don't give a shit who is rep and who isn't, I just wanted to know if other people had problems like me getting the shit to dissolve, or did I have a bad batch, or was I doing something wrong.

 

[tried it all]

I have heard of there being a mixing issue also but thought they were resolved after talking to Chris! I just get pissed off when peeps jump into a thread and start bashing or discrediting what other have to say! A lot of good peeps jump elsewhere and the board as a whole suffers! Now i just found this on another board and I am questioning my own judgement! Lab Report - Veg Bloom 02.13.13.pdf now if it is credible or not i do not know but something is not right here! And yes I just opened the door for Chucky to chime in!