Personal DWC Medical Grow - 600's, Perpetual - Multi-Strain

[stoneslacker]

Hey Doc your flush plan is good. I hit mine with clearex about 10-14 days before harvest, then follow with water + floranectar till the last few days before my final dark period. Like KC says I hit them with plain water for the last watering, usually 3-5 days before I chop them to let them dry out nicely. Running hempy buckets I usually flush and water with 2-3 times container size just to help remove built up salts in my medium.

 

[DrGribble]

Hey Doc your flush plan is good. I hit mine with clearex about 10-14 days before harvest, then follow with water + floranectar till the last few days before my final dark period. Like KC says I hit them with plain water for the last watering, usually 3-5 days before I chop them to let them dry out nicely. Running hempy buckets I usually flush and water with 2-3 times container size just to help remove built up salts in my medium.

Sounds good to me, and speaking of Hempy's that was my last method of growing (worked great) I am considering having my mothers in smaller Hempy buckets but not sure how well they'd fair in the 1.5g mini ones I used for early veg last grow (moved to 5g from there) I am trying to figure out how to keep my tiny veg tent operational and figure smaller containers for my mothers would be nice. I was going to have everything in DWC but that takes up a ton of space I can only fit 4 buckets in my tent, It's too damn crowded to LST 3-4 plants (2x4 footprint) and maintain some mothers / clones.

I suppose I need to buy a bigger one or a second one.

 

[DrGribble]

 

[KushCanuck]

Sounds good to me, and speaking of Hempy's that was my last method of growing (worked great) I am considering having my mothers in smaller Hempy buckets but not sure how well they'd fair in the 1.5g mini ones I used for early veg last grow (moved to 5g from there) I am trying to figure out how to keep my tiny veg tent operational and figure smaller containers for my mothers would be nice. I was going to have everything in DWC but that takes up a ton of space I can only fit 4 buckets in my tent, It's too damn crowded to LST 3-4 plants (2x4 footprint) and maintain some mothers / clones.

I suppose I need to buy a bigger one or a second one.

2x4 foot print is damn large for mothers Dribs, I could get 6-8 in there now problems. Ever considered 6-8 inch pots and a flood table for your mothers? Less equipment overall, and would still allow you to be in perpetual hydro still (flowering your mothers in 5 gallon buckets whenever you feel). When I used to have a perpetual production line style grow I had a 2x4 mother chamber to fit 4-6 mothers ( I like real big clones if I can), with the 22x22 flood table, and just the 4x4 flower tent running 2 - 2x4 trays, harvesting every 3-4 weeks, a QP - HP per go ... May work for ya, feel free to ask away if you need,

KC

 

[DrGribble]

Oh yeah, I meant Mothers and Vegging LST plants (sometimes 6 weeks) in my rotation. I could fit just mothers and clones in there no problem at all it's those big wide canopies that are the problem

I figure I want to just harvest 2 (maybe 3) plants every ~month, so 2 go in... 2 more/harvest 2... etc. staying under my plant limit so I gotta veg em big and wide.

 

[KushCanuck]

If that`s what you`re after, you can cram that into a 10`x 6` room no problem. Was working now individual set-ups for myself last night, if you can forgive the terrible artistry, you can see the idea. Basically the large box represents 4x4 footprint, 600w cooltube, and a single 4x4 flood table and resevoir (flower room in your case). The middle shows the 2x4 area (light by 400w cooltube), and the last one is a 2x2 tent with a 6-light T5 system.



... You could easily adapt this for yourself Dribs in your space ... the layout above is for my perpetual / seed production runs I want to have in the same space. L tent represents my Veg/Flower space for a given strain of high quality regular seeds, isolating my best male to continue flowering in the smallest tent to collect pollen, and moving in my best female when she`s ready afterwards. The 2x4 tent there shows each flood table that will be perpetual flower, harvesting every month with 8-9 week strains (tray 1 - weeks 0-4, tray 2 - weeks 4-8(9)). Give me the best of both worlds . Cheers,

KC

 

[DrGribble]

That looks like a nice setup plan, I'll have to get to work on getting things prepared for new plants in rotation soon so good stuff to look at and think about. I have been wanting to do a few things anyway, I better not slack off too much longer lol.

I think as of now too I am going to plan on pulling that Supersonic down next wednesday so that will be a full 7 day flush it already seems to be swelling a little figure another 6 days will probably make a nice difference and it should be ready. It's not as far off from the 69 days claimed as I thought it would be I think that hits in 4 days. I'm really curious to see what the final weight is, the seed banks claim between 45-75g (75g figure is for outdoor) average but I feel like I'm going to hit that mark easily. It's been a while though I always forget how much they shrink down when they dry.

 

[KushCanuck]

You`re looking to keep about 20-25% of your wet weight. Think 1000g wet harvest will be approx. 200g when smokably dry . Good luck, ATB!

KC

 

[DrGribble]

I just drained and refilled again with clean water that had sat 24 hours plus the usual dose of FloraNectar, I notice over the period in which I changed it last time the PPM's rose about 200, probably all in the rootball and the PH raised up pretty quick. I am going to drain and refill every day probably until the PPM's don't fluctuate as much and I'm still planning to hit it with florakleen a couple times too but figure some sweetener for a few more days couldn't hurt.

 

[DrGribble]

All of my clones are starting to have roots popping out of the starter plugs, still just sitting in a small container I guess I need to build some buckets or something for them pretty quick here I have no place to go with them yet. Slacking off again, all of my buckets have holes in them from when they were once Hempys I need to find some plugs or something around the house I can use to fix that problem. Thought I had some but not sure where they went.

 

[DrGribble]

Day 19 12/12

 

[DrGribble]

I think my Critical Jack will be getting to a good place to start flowering it within a week or two. Have not been keeping up on training have a ton to tie down thankfully it's still flexible enough but it's getting decent sized and I have been neglecting it, that is going to change because it's probably one of the best strains I have for getting a nice bountiful harvest. Hopefully I can start flowering it pretty soon then take some clones shortly after that.

 

[DrGribble]

After taking a look again today under the scope and finding still hardly any amber trichs in combination with the almost completely white pistils again I am thinking I'll let it go possibly another week past what I was intending so I just fed it again. I really hated that I only ran the KB Dry for 2-3 days so they're going to feed off of this for a few more days and I will start over again on the flush. I figured what the hell I didn't use it as long as I wanted and jumped the gun so maybe I can get a little bit more out of it.

Also trimmed all the tiny branches below the canopy and any leaves that were not receiving light to get all that space underneath open for airflow and keeping humidity down. Kind of sucks I waited til day 19 flower to do it but whatever if they don't like it I don't think it will take long for them to be happy again. I hope they revert all that energy that would have been wasted and put it into the main colas.

 

[stoneslacker]

The critical seems to add so much yield to all the crosses I've seen it in. Can't wait to see her added to the tent. Do you have a TDS Pen? Is the auto still taking up it's normal nutes? I think they will definitely benefit from the trim, I trim all the way thru to harvest if I need to remove a stubborn leaf or a newly grown undernode. Looking forward to the auto harvest, she is a beast.

 

[DrGribble]

The critical seems to add so much yield to all the crosses I've seen it in. Can't wait to see her added to the tent. Do you have a TDS Pen? Is the auto still taking up it's normal nutes? I think they will definitely benefit from the trim, I trim all the way thru to harvest if I need to remove a stubborn leaf or a newly grown undernode. Looking forward to the auto harvest, she is a beast.

The Critical Jack is already a decent sized bush but it has a lot more internodal spacing as it's only been receiving some 6500k T8 lightings and the spillage from the HPS over the Autoflower, it's taking up about half the footprint of the tent but not anything like the others in terms of tops. Might move it in there soon it's still big just a more spaced out plant since it had no metal halide over it like the others. I have been keeping track of tds but not finatically, I think I am going to start topping off w/ water/sweetener and continually dilute what they are feeding off of now gradually down to a change w/ nothing but water at the end.

 

[DrGribble]

Thinking about chopping sooner than later, the PPM in my flushing solution is hardly changing over night... It was about 120ppm when I checked this morning (FloraKleen & Water) my water is around that from the tap. So much says that flushing isn't even necessary so when my Trichs are how I want it the plant is coming down (even if that's today or tomorrow) I haven't looked at them in a day or two will be checking soon. Maybe I will test the theory that a slow dry is all it takes and see how this stuff tastes. I'm currently on around Day 68 from when I started counting and it's a 60-69 day strain.

 

[DrGribble]

Day 68 for SSCS, removed some fan leaves from the one side to get a better idea of where the buds are, other side has a whole bunch more.




Anyone wanna guess the yield? It's 32" tall x 30" wide roughly.

 

[stoneslacker]

IMO drying and curing has more to do with taste than anything else.

 

[DrGribble]

I keep defoliating it since it's almost done I figure any negatives with that are completely void (with exception of creating a slower dry time) It's amazing how much foliage I have taken off already and it's still thick and dense bud wise, I am thinking that pulling these off can't hurt in reducing the amount of cholrophyl there is when going into hang dry it soon. Still debating on hanging whole plant or cutting it down into several sections my humidity is reading really higher in my basement (60-70% range) so should give me a nice long dry time. It should be less when I have my extraction fan sucking air out of the tent at it's lowest setting though... shooting for around 55-60% I'd imagine.

 

[KushCanuck]

I keep defoliating it since it's almost done I figure any negatives with that are completely void (with exception of creating a slower dry time) It's amazing how much foliage I have taken off already and it's still thick and dense bud wise, I am thinking that pulling these off can't hurt in reducing the amount of cholrophyl there is when going into hang dry it soon. Still debating on hanging whole plant or cutting it down into several sections my humidity is reading really higher in my basement (60-70% range) so should give me a nice long dry time. It should be less when I have my extraction fan sucking air out of the tent at it's lowest setting though... shooting for around 55-60% I'd imagine.

You should be cutting into the very minimum little sections. Hanging the whole plant will drastically lenghten your dry time. This is why you prune at the end my friend ... I dry per stalk on the plant, so the stems can be dried as well, but there shouldn`t be anything other than buds hanging. And anything north of 50% RH in the drying stage is dangerous IMO, 50%+ are grounds for mold and fugus growth, I keep my dry RH at 30-40% generally for 7-10 days tops. Check those buds for any unwanted spore formations or rot mate (usually inside the buds), and try to get the humidity level in check. Keep us posted!

KC