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[goodro wilson]

Maybe I can get some scrog advice here?
I'm still a long ways off from needing it (my plants are still babies)but I wanna try a screen grow because I been disappointed in yields
This is only like my 4th or 5th grow so im no expert but I thought with scrog u had to pull new growth back under the screen and kind of direct the buds where u want them ...
But today I saw on someone's scrog just bamboo and chicken wire and (from pics) it seemed like he just let it grow through on its own and had lots of tops kind of confused me
I dunno if pulling the budsites under the screen will harm stress the. After they are stretching
Basically my question is when exactly do I stop the training do I just let it grow up to screen then flower or go 12 fill the screen then stop training.
I know it would probably help if I just tried it for myself and see what works also my other question is is chicken wife even big enough holes I have this wire baby gate I was gonna use that seems perfect

 

[wheels619]

Maybe I can get some scrog advice here?
I'm still a long ways off from needing it (my plants are still babies)but I wanna try a screen grow because I been disappointed in yields
This is only like my 4th or 5th grow so im no expert but I thought with scrog u had to pull new growth back under the screen and kind of direct the buds where u want them ...
But today I saw on someone's scrog just bamboo and chicken wire and (from pics) it seemed like he just let it grow through on its own and had lots of tops kind of confused me
I dunno if pulling the budsites under the screen will harm stress the. After they are stretching
Basically my question is when exactly do I stop the training do I just let it grow up to screen then flower or go 12 fill the screen then stop training.
I know it would probably help if I just tried it for myself and see what works also my other question is is chicken wife even big enough holes I have this wire baby gate I was gonna use that seems perfect

mmm. indicas i fill the screen to about 85% full and just let them go into flower with one final tuck just before. sativas i fill the screen to about 70-75% full then flower. indicas i do not tuck once flowering however i do tuck all sativas till the beginning of week 2. give or take for strain and stretchiness.

altho i take into consideration the high head room i have in my big ass tent. so some people that have to rely on lower ceilings to their grow area tuck sativas well into the second week if not further once in flower.

 

[Bruv]

Hey guys how is it looking? day 23-25 of flower I believe
AN connoisseur A n B, big bud, bud candy
6 plants 6 square meters roughly filled 7

 

[DaZeD & CoNfUZeD]

Would love to hear opinions on the following strains for "SCROGGING".Also if anyone wanted to share their favorites?>!?!?!?
Norther Lights
THC Bomb
Shiva Shanti
Kerala X Skunk


Thanks

 

[The2TimEr]

before and after

kiss-ass

 

[woodsmantoker]

Maybe I can get some scrog advice here?
I'm still a long ways off from needing it (my plants are still babies)but I wanna try a screen grow because I been disappointed in yields
This is only like my 4th or 5th grow so im no expert but I thought with scrog u had to pull new growth back under the screen and kind of direct the buds where u want them ...
But today I saw on someone's scrog just bamboo and chicken wire and (from pics) it seemed like he just let it grow through on its own and had lots of tops kind of confused me
I dunno if pulling the budsites under the screen will harm stress the. After they are stretching
Basically my question is when exactly do I stop the training do I just let it grow up to screen then flower or go 12 fill the screen then stop training.
I know it would probably help if I just tried it for myself and see what works also my other question is is chicken wife even big enough holes I have this wire baby gate I was gonna use that seems perfect

When reviewing this thread, many of the same questions come up. (as with most). As well, the answers come up in posts made with real examples of folks experience having experimented with the question. Needless to say, some lessons are hard learned but the points are proven by the results. As to your question regarding "how to train, when to train etc." you could likely find the answer for yourself by simply reviewing images. Look for the results you are interested in, and then review how it was done.. The ones you are not impressed with, see why, and how it went "wrong". There are many ways to skin the cat on this one, but you are right when you suggest that there is an objective and goal most are trying to achieve, though it may differ from one gardener to the next, most are looking to increase productive yield by maximizing that potential within a given space. After the years here at RIU, and the experience I have gained from watching countless others attempt test after test of the very same concepts I have worked with for most of my life, I will still suggest most of the same things to most everyone... Train flat, pull and place rather than weave, and tuck until a week or so into flowering when the stretch is over if you want a close tight canopy. If you know how deep your light will penetrate into your canopy, you can allow that height above your screen in order to maximize further. GL

P.S. When reviewing others work, take into consideration that the end result is a reflection of more than just training, but also type of cannabis, phenotype within the given strain, health of the crop, understanding of the method or cultivation of cannabis period. etc.

Woodsmantoker~

 

[woodsmantoker]

Would love to hear opinions on the following strains for "SCROGGING".Also if anyone wanted to share their favorites?>!?!?!?
Norther Lights
THC Bomb
Shiva Shanti
Kerala X Skunk

Not certian of the Kerala X Skunk (but most skunks do well, just a bit leggy to train), the rest do well in scrog (there are always phenos that wont do as well however).
Thanks

Some images of the shiva run would be appreciated! (of course your whole run would be nice too brother! Post em if ya got em!) Thanks!

 

[RL420]

progress of my scrog, 13 days flowering, LSD


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[proggystyle]

Some really good looking gardens in here!

 

[goodro wilson]

Thanks woodsman. I know it's not the first time the ? Has been asked. Not new to growing or the forums
Just new to screens and like u said almost everyone's screen seems different
I was too high to word my question right I guess but ur weave vs pull through made perfect sense that's what I was asking
Guess the best way to learn something is just to experiment with it
Ill post pics later on when my babies are bigger

 

[wheels619]

4x4 blue dream 15 days or so into flower and the others in the 4x8 net are a madness on the far side an afghan kush in the middle and a cheese on the far right. they have been flowering for about 5 days or so at most i believe.

ive decided to try videos instead becuz im lazy and too many pics to deal with suck.

[video=youtube_share;a9XxNDh8UTc]http://youtu.be/a9XxNDh8UTc[/video]

 

[woodsmantoker]

^^ I like the tubs brother! We use em. Small shop vac on hand is a good idea regardless, but also works well for excess water and debris in those tubs..(my vermi farm loves my vac dumpings) We have also fitted them with flush floor drains, works quite well.
Looks like you can get your lights in a bit tighter to your canopy; though I see you have raise and lower ability, I suspect that it is what you will or already do. (TIP - rough guage) If you place your light on the floor (glass down) with it running, and slowly raise the light, you can see the foot print casting light in the shape of your hood (square/rectangle) on the floor. as you raise it, you see it increase in size. Once you have it raised enough that its casting the same dimension as your screen size (per one plant typically), that is your ideal height above the canopy (distance between glass and floor). Once colas emerge and gain height above the screen, the lights can be raised to accommodate that height. You should also be able to touch the glass on your hoods while the lights are on, with the back of your hand and hold it there without burn. If not, increase airflow through the hoods until you can.
( a significant improvement can be made in exhaust efficiency by eliminating bends in the line; add hard ducting at elbows etc. Air flow slows tremendously with turbulence caused by the flex ducting, especially at a bend.)
Woodsmantoker~

 

[woodsmantoker]

RL420 - Getting there!

 

[woodsmantoker]

Know of another great resouce for scrog info? LINK US!

Enter the Scrog remains the largest source of scrog related information globally, as far as I am aware. Thanks to all of you!

One Love!
Woodsmantoker~

 

[wheels619]

i left the lights up high in the beginning since they are all indicas. i need the stretch to work in my favor. once the stretch is done the lights will be about 18 inches or so from the tops. and i have big enough pots that i dont have to worry about the left over drainage. it gets soaked up in about a half day.

 

[woodsmantoker]

Anyone want a dandy tip on keeping root zone pests away?

These folks make custom size bags for me, that I slip my pot into. The draw string pulls up tight to the stem, and WABAM! No bugs! Water right through, or loosen the draw string upon watering. (drip systems etc. can all be made work too of course)

I also use larger ones for transporting clones, small plants etc. No bugs in transit! (Large enough for pot, plant, and all!)


http://www.equinoxltd.com/the-gear/bags-and-pouches/no-see-um-mesh-bag.cfm

 

[ricky6991]

i dont fill my scrog before flower at all... pic is included of them in veg about to go into flower. then i push all the branches downward with a slight bend so to not break stem or anything stressful. then i drop screen ontop of them. before day is up there is acouple tops into screen. couple days later there like 5 each plant. then by end of the 1st week flower the entire screen is filled. i did one finaly tuck halfway through 2hd week of flower and tops popped out of everywhere but not very tall. so now on i wont tuck after 1st week since there is still plenty tops.

 

[bass1014]

5 gallon paint strainer bags work great also. i use them in my airo buckets when the root mass starts growin in my airstone.. lol cheap too you can get 2 for $5 at lowes or homedepot ..they will go all the way to the stem and use a bread tie to sinch just fyi

Anyone want a dandy tip on keeping root zone pests away?

These folks make custom size bags for me, that I slip my pot into. The draw string pulls up tight to the stem, and WABAM! No bugs! Water right through, or loosen the draw string upon watering. (drip systems etc. can all be made work too of course)

I also use larger ones for transporting clones, small plants etc. No bugs in transit! (Large enough for pot, plant, and all!)


http://www.equinoxltd.com/the-gear/bags-and-pouches/no-see-um-mesh-bag.cfm

 

[F.M.I.L.Y]

SCRoG or Not SCRoG, that is the question....

 

[woodsmantoker]

Is that all the space it gets?