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GandalfdaGreen

GandalfdaGreen

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This is my first T5 light. I have a Sunlight 1000W HPS/MH switchable, 2 Hydrofarm 400W HPS, and a Sunlight 250W MH internal ballast. I dont use them all at the same time. That would be way more than I need. I like the idea of having an immediate back just in case something goes wrong with one of them. The new light is this one. http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-Supply-2-Foot-2-Lamp-PL-55-Tek-Lamp.asp

It is side by side with my 250MH. An inch apart. Sprouts are centered perfectly between the lights. None of the spouts located right in the middle are leaning one way or the other. Neither light dominates. I could lower the Tek2 to 3 inches if I want to. Its at 5" right now. I did not know if the sprouts could handle that much light in their first few days. They look great though. I plan on running an old Hydrofarm MegaGarden under it with 4 clones bloomed a week after roots are shown. The clones are only 4-5". I have never run hydro before and have had the MegaGarden for years. I have the bloom bulbs for the light also. I am just really screwing around with it. I would have thought the 250MH would have caused leaning but its not. Weird. The tek pulls 1 amp. The light is really well built and seems of the highest quality. There is an HTG store close to home for me too if there is ever a question. The main use of the tek will be for seedlings/clones, while the 250MH will be for a few mothers. It seems cool so far. Myco and Prosperian....you guys kick ass. I love reading all your posts. Very like minded to myself from what I see. Thanks guys for the inspiration to clean up my act and grow proper. :weed:

Prosperian....they are so cool temp wise. No comparison. I was think of a 150W HPS but I bought this for the difference in heat output. This is not hot right up to almost touching the bulbs. You cant do that with an HID.
 
prosperian

prosperian

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Wait until Slip reads your post. He will explain why the sprouts are not leaning towards the HID, has to do with foot candles or something, he has a chart! Lol he has good charts for about everything. Got your friend request, sent an invite approve.

Quite a collection of fixtures. I will probably be the same in a few years. Boys and their toys.
 
GandalfdaGreen

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prosperian said:
Wait until Slip reads your post. Her will explain why the sprouts are not leaning towards the HID, has to do with foot candles or something, he has a chart! Lol he has good charts for about everything. Got your friend request, sent an invite approve.

Quite a collection of fixtures. I will probably be the same in a few years. Boys and their toys.
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Its either this or snowboards. I have 20 of those. Snowboarding gear is so out of control at my house its not even a joke.
 
Slipon

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prosperian said:
I agree with more veg time. Last time I was more in a hurry, first time and all. I was buying my bud, which is never fun when your spending over $1000 on equipment and seeds. Plus all my books said to expect a stretch of up too double my veg size. I actually only had about 6" of further height growth after the flip. If I had you guys watching my moves last year, I could of had some real beasts.

Are the HO T5 fixtures that much cooler? My room is running much hotter with the 150w of cfls than when I crank up the 400w hid. Obviously that's because my inline exhaust sucks the heat off the HID bulb very efficiently (cool tube).

Do the t5 fixtures need to be connected in the same manner as an HID fixture if you want the room to cool? Just wondering what's involved and if the trade off is worth it vs. just running my 400 with an MH bulb.
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well my T5HO get as hot as your CFLs Im sure, but the same watt is spread out more I believe, I have 4 tubes running = 196W and its spread out on 5x1 ft

Im sure you could atleast cut two of them CFLs for them seedling`s (share 1 CFL per two seedlings)
 
Slipon

Slipon

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prosperian said:
Wait until Slip reads your post. Her will explain why the sprouts are not leaning towards the HID, has to do with foot candles or something, he has a chart! Lol he has good charts for about everything. Got your friend request, sent an invite approve.

Quite a collection of fixtures. I will probably be the same in a few years. Boys and their toys.
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ahhh charts and stuff, lemesee what I cant dig up, got quite a collection of them :D


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mycomaster

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I am running a 400W M.H. bulb now to veg, but started them under a homemade cfl rig I built. I like the way they stayed extremely compact under the cfl's, but they outgrew the pattern of the rig that I thought was intense enough. So I just threw the M.H. in and started looking for some better fluoros to veg under.I just don't like having to run the in-line to keep my grow cool, it's noisy and I'm in the room alot listening to music. I'd rather put a 4' 8 bulb t5 in there and have them happy as pigs in shit even if it's running a little more juice. I'm gonna put it in another spot in a bit anyway's and just use this for flowering. Where I'm gonna put it I'll use it for seedlings and for beginning the main-line and ready for the flower room. I'll have supplemental light as well in the form of 3' t5 strip lights all around the plants. the area will be 3' x 4' approximately, and the flower tent is 1 m2 x 2m. My 600W digi works really well in flowering the area with the hood I have. I'm looking to get a new hood when I order the bigger t5 fixture. It's just a little old and it's time to update. Props on the thread Prosperian, every time I check this out something good has been posted. :peace: out all!
 
GandalfdaGreen

GandalfdaGreen

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Slipon said:
ahhh charts and stuff, lemesee what I cant dig up, got quite a collection of them :D


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These are awesome. Can you hear my printer from where you are? I am hanging some of these up in the basement. Thanks for putting these up.
 
Bakatare666

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prosperian

prosperian

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Day 12 update...

Getting warm outside. A/C in the house is set at 74 degrees and the closet is running at 83. During the winter the closet is a nice 78.

I've been trying to shave a degree here or there using extra fans and adjusting timers to night time. The problem with an 18/6 schedule is I'm still picking up the morning temps and let's face it, 6pm, it's still very hot outside. Think the coolest temp I will achieve is 83 degrees during the Summer months.



I don't like the idea that I'm ventilating my cool a/c into the attic but it's really not cool air if I think about it? It's pulling the heat off the bulb and is probably extremely hot air.

Seedlings are doing well. Drinking about every three days and second nodes are appearing. The 400 MH is about 3 ft. away. Been sick last couple days so I'm laying low.



myco- it's an easy fix for me to move the ballast to the attic if you think that will help the closet temps. Think I might try it and clear that out of the closet. Thx for the feedback.
 
mycomaster

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I hope you get to feeling better, and 83 isn't horrible for a high I've seen higher. I understand you wanting to get them down though, I would want to keep the dreaded stretch away as well. I was going to post a pic of my Blue O.G., but I can't get the uploader to work, oh well maybe later. Everybody's looking happy. Peace out.
 
mycomaster

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Blue O.G. G-13 Labs 5-30-13 2.jpgHere's my Blue O.G. If you look to the right on the top of the brick is 8 heads I took out of the 4th and 5th nodes for a total of 16 tops now on the top 2 nodes. I have some of the lower nodes topped as well and they're catching up some to the top of the canopy now. Nodes 3 & 2 have 8 tops in total. It's a pretty vigorous plant for the most part, and has come out of her slump a little. She still has a ways to go, but she's on the right path. I have to say out of all the G-13 Labs gear I have grown this is the slowest. She popped on 4-24 and has been topped and trained and worked pretty hard so you tell me if she is slow or not, I kind of think so. I think she's like 9 inches or so. Well that's pretty much that, Good growing everybody! Peace out.
 
prosperian

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myco- your blue og looks great. Really mastered the lst-ing and it shows.

I'm still debating doing anything to this grow. My 400 doesn't have an issue with light penetration even with the main colas reaching another 4-6" higher than my secondary.

There was a discussion today about gains of topping vs. letting the plants grow naturally. One of the post made sense to me...Two half glasses of water is still a full glass of water. I'm summarizing but the point was the energy of the plant is diverted but the gain is no greater when you split a cola. The real benefit was lowering the canopy for growers using less intense lighting.

I'm sure you guys have done comparisons or read about them. Like to read your opinions on...

All things equal, (these modifications require increased veg time so think about adding that time to a non-modified plant) do you see a gain in bud production or quality by LST-ing and topping?

Is it more important to produce quantity or quality? Are you willing to sacrifice ounces for a better product?

Last question. Airy buds. What causes a final product to be fluffy and not compact? I've been told there is no difference in quality but the market likes "hard nugs".
 
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