Um idk I bought them off craigslist all of my clones its suppose to me sour diesel lost coast cut now I only have 15 sour diesel in 20 gal holes there already over a foot tall and smell great half pounders for sure the ogres kush is throwing out roots quick I got them all in cubes and put in soil outside same day gonna be transplanting 12 ogres 2 head band today ha loaded up contractor bags with the soil the cops dumped out and took it back 500 gallons of soil fuck wasting it. Gonna have around 100 total just waiting for them to fill out before transplanting a few extra for the Gf so she can make some cash plus she will be watering for me while I'm in Vegas for my 21 st ha I'll have some pics up today.