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md97

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Fuck man i love ur cab, im going Friday and looking for standing plastic cab/closet at walmart, i have over 20 beans now and only 1 is feminised
if you search on this same thread I think there are better pictures of the cabinet and fans. The only "downside" to it is that the doors don't seal properly, this is not a problem for me because the cabinet is inside a closet. If I was to place the cabinet outside the closet I would have to find a solution to it because light will hit the ladies on their dark period. There's a couple of things that still need to be worked on the cabinet but that will be dealt with before the next run.
 
Yea I glanced thru, im just going to continue in Rubbermaid until enough money to buy HID or HPS

wanted to check out the Home Depot 250 watt HPS GROW light, $187 has everything ballast, chains, hooks, power strip, bulb
 

md97

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Yea I glanced thru, im just going to continue in Rubbermaid until enough money to buy HID or HPS

wanted to check out the Home Depot 250 watt HPS GROW light, $187 has everything ballast, chains, hooks, power strip, bulb
I believe those grow lights have the ballast integrated with the bulb. Are you planning on running an HPS on a cabinet or in a different setup? HPS can run too hot for a cabinet.
 

qwizoking

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sorry for jumping in here looks good btw. but SmokeOurLyfAway i have a few more cfls than you (700 actual watts) but i also have a digital 600 watt cooltube, with shipping and handling is just under 200, off amazon,very discrete. anyway comes with hps/mh bulbs ratchet rope hangars timer and dimmable ballast.. rose my temps by 3-4 degrees..just sayin dont get a 250 for the same price as a 600 cooltube
 

md97

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sorry for jumping in here looks good btw. but SmokeOurLyfAway i have a few more cfls than you (700 actual watts) but i also have a digital 600 watt cooltube, with shipping and handling is just under 200, off amazon,very discrete. anyway comes with hps/mh bulbs ratchet rope hangars timer and dimmable ballast.. rose my temps by 3-4 degrees..just sayin dont get a 250 for the same price as a 600 cooltube
what area are you covering with your hps/cfl combo? the cfl are for side lightning?

only a rise 3/4 degrees makes that cooltube really efficient!
 

qwizoking

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my bad, coulda been more clear. where i am it is VERY hot and i my old house has difficulty keeping the place bout 78degrees, so i use 700 watts of cfl in the summer and start running the hps when its cooler out. the difference without upping ventilation just swapping lights would be around 3-4 degrees. to me the temp difference makes up for slightly less light it still produces pretty dense buds...oh and im currently growing in double stacked 36 gallon rubbermaids
 

md97

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Plans were to harvest Today but I want to flush them at least two times. Sooooo yeah, waiting for the soil to dry to flush one more time & chop em' down!! :eyesmoke:
 

xxjohndeerexx

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Have you ever tried Not flushing before harvest? Im just trying to gather epeens before harvest time comes around for me.
 

qwizoking

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i grow mexican brick, its actually fantastic bud. with cfls i pull 2ozs per plant no veg, my space is 20x26" and i put 8 per rubbermaid. the hps gives me about the same yield obviously im not utilizing the entire light footprint though by keeping the same size tub when switching......just for anyone wondering
 

applepoop1984

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Plans were to harvest Today but I want to flush them at least two times. Sooooo yeah, waiting for the soil to dry to flush one more time & chop em' down!! :eyesmoke:
might i make some suggestions to improve next harvests yield?
1.keep temps in the 70-80 range, and try to keep them from deviating more than 10 degrees in range. if you are enriching with co2 this range jumps 85-90 with co2 saturation being at 1100 ppm. most people dont know this but most c3 plants(cannabis) have a co2 saturation point of 1200. after that more ethylene is built up and you dont want that

2.keep humidity always above 50% and always below 70% for veg 55-65% is optimal for flower, 50-55% is optimal. for co2 enriching humidity stays at those values

3. improved ventilation will help increase co2 getting to the plants.get a fan with a fan speed controller and you can fine tune the temps as well. your current ventilation is adequate though but to improve it keep the exhaust fans mounted high as possible with the intake mounted low as possible and on the side opposite the exhaust. this way there is an updraft blowing co2 rich air through the leaves while making it harder for any pests to lay eggs on the undersides of the leaves

4. dont flush right before harvest. its best to flush 2 weeks before and at least 2 days before cutting so they dry out better. wont exactly help yield but will reduce the chances of mold which actually could help yield.

5. blue spectrum isnt beneficial to flowering. it wont hurt but youd do better to have all 2700k lights in there as red light increase bud production. also red light in veg is counter productive as it causes stretch. however red light improves root growth and a combination of red and blue is very beneficial in the seedling stage but start to switch out the red so that after 1-2 weeks of veg it is mostly if not all blue light.

6. it has been noted that talking to your plants is good, this is because of the co2 you breathe out not exactly the sound. although there have been studies of music in the grow room improving yield vs control group. breathing slash talking to your plants whenever you can will yield higher co2 for about a couple seconds. if i breathe on my co2 meter it goes up 600 ppm.

7. for the first 2-3 waterings use molasses to boost the microbe population. this will help break down nutrients for your plants to use. after the 3rd watering with molasses dont do it again, normally microbes feed on the sugar from the roots and when you introduce outside sugar they eat that instead. yure just trying to boost their population not help them graze lol. keeping microbe feeding on your roots will help the plant uptake nutes even faster.

8. before flowering give your 2 days of absolute darkness. this kicks the flowering hormones into overdrive. likewise before harvest give it 2 days of darkness as well to help leach nutrients out of your bud.

9.phing your water isnt necessary with organics put 1-2 tbsp of dolomite lime or similar buffer in your soil as a top dressing would greatly benefit your plants

10. aerate your water with an airpump before watering. this will keep it oxygenated and help the plants recover from the watering quicker. likwise adding one capful of hydrogen peroxide to 1 gallon of water will do the same. do both.

11. when watering water completely. you cannot over water at one time this is why flushing works. you want at leas 10% runoff in your trays after words but get rid of the run off , the tray should have little to no water in it to prevent root rot. also do not water until all the soil even the bottom is bone dry. you basically want to get it completely wet leaving no dry pockets(this removes stale air from the soil) and let it dry completely.

12. if you water with nutrients make sure you give it 2-3 waterings with nutes and 1 without and repeat. also balancing your nutrients is important. in organics this isnt much of a problem but if you have been using 7-1-1 or similar nute during veg you want to use a 0-6-7 or similar nute during flower. too much of one nute will lockout the uptake of another.

13. no nutes the last 2 weeks of flower. helps more with bud quality than anything

14. never interrupt the dark cycle with light of any kind except green.

15. cut a 2 liter in half invert the top into the bottom to make a funnel and fill with vinegar. this will be a trap for almost all pests and they will be more interested in the vinegar than your plants. keep it 10 ft from the grow box

16. use a negative ion generator. negative ions have been shown to improve plant growth and half another benefit of reducing odors.

17. go to radio shack and get the strongest magnifying glass. use this to look at your trichs before harvest. you want mostly cloudy trichs when there are over 10% amber trichs its harvest time

i hope this helps you, the plants look great btw youre on your way to becoming a great grower
 

md97

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i grow mexican brick, its actually fantastic bud. with cfls i pull 2ozs per plant no veg, my space is 20x26" and i put 8 per rubbermaid. the hps gives me about the same yield obviously im not utilizing the entire light footprint though by keeping the same size tub when switching......just for anyone wondering
f'ing A! My next seeds will be 12/12 from day 1. Is this your first time with the mexican brick? I've never smoke that strain.
 

qwizoking

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no not at all, its the only thing ive ever grown. im gonna finally order some seeds today actually,still unsure of a good stable kush to befriend the mexican sativas i have. i was thinking about dna's kushberry...anyway alot of people have good results going 12/12 from seed or clone, check dels 12/12 from seed thread.but i wouldnt expect that yield. landrace sativas never stop growing during flower, can have a 5x stretch and flower for 16 weeks to make up for the lack of veg..but they grow huge. next weekend ill put up a pic of one of my plants at 21 weeks with a 23in diameter cola, from above it looks like a plate
 

applepoop1984

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bb61 gave me grey rep and asked why woudl i keep the vinegar traps 10 ft from the plants and here is the reason why:

the reason you want the vinegar 10 ft away is because the pests will go to the vinegar trap instead of the grow room. you could have more than one even and set them up around the perimeter of the grow box . pests are very attracted to vinegar especially fruit flies. keeping the vinegar too close could result in them getting sucked into the intake of the fan and trapped in the grow room where there other source of food is the plants.

btw what is grey rep?
 

qwizoking

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oh shit, my bad peoples. i dont know what i was tryin to say but the pic ill show of my biggest bud looks like a plate,like 10"diameter at the top...idk i have like 3 gray reps, they were being positive so i dont know why it didnt give me anything..... so hows your grow coming, pics:)
 

B166ER420

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They don't have enough +rep power to give it,red is bad Rep,grey is neutral,green is positive Rep points.The more rep you get the more rep power you'll have.Its in the FAQ at the top of the page.
@qwizo.........lol..........a 23" diameter cola.........holy shit dude..lol....I now what your saying though man.I would like to see pics,dude,you can't say stuff like that with no pics:wink:
 

qwizoking

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alright so ive been holding out on pics cause my blackberry broke,im getting a new one next weekend.anyway those are 20 weeks old and 1 day, i am holding 1 normal 4in dia cola next to the the fat girl. in the back of the same photo you can see more fat ladies, fairly airy but about 10"diameter....hopefully yall can zoom or something idk, the pics are big on my phone
 

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md97

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^^^^^^
Looking great!!! Please keep us updated on your harvest. Looks like you got it going good on that first run with the strain.. :weed: +rep


bb61 gave me grey rep and asked why woudl i keep the vinegar traps 10 ft from the plants and here is the reason why:

the reason you want the vinegar 10 ft away is because the pests will go to the vinegar trap instead of the grow room. you could have more than one even and set them up around the perimeter of the grow box . pests are very attracted to vinegar especially fruit flies. keeping the vinegar too close could result in them getting sucked into the intake of the fan and trapped in the grow room where there other source of food is the plants.

btw what is grey rep?
First time I see this vinegar "technique". Luck is in my side as I really don't have any pest in my grow/cabinet area.

oh shit, my bad peoples. i dont know what i was tryin to say but the pic ill show of my biggest bud looks like a plate,like 10"diameter at the top...idk i have like 3 gray reps, they were being positive so i dont know why it didnt give me anything..... so hows your grow coming, pics:)
no worries dude, we got you! lol (23'' diameter indoor cola has to be amazing!)

They don't have enough +rep power to give it,red is bad Rep,grey is neutral,green is positive Rep points.The more rep you get the more rep power you'll have.Its in the FAQ at the top of the page.
@qwizo.........lol..........a 23" diameter cola.........holy shit dude..lol....I now what your saying though man.I would like to see pics,dude,you can't say stuff like that with no pics:wink:
I thought the same thing. I will just use it as a pillow.... :fire:
 
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