Impman
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Yes it matters, dont drink battery acid kids
The Potassium Myth
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Nitro1990
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if you feed you plant with water with a ph of 5 i wouldn't be worrying about the plants to much id be more concerned over my own health
kinetic
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So impman you don't believe in hyrdro? Like it doesn't exist or you don't believe it can be done? I'm confused, you do know that hydroponics has been around for a long time and that on Wake Island hydroponics was used to grow vegetables because of the rocky conditions. I'm soil btw, but to act pompous to a legitimate growing practice because it's too confusing or overwhelimg for you is a little absurd.
Impman
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Your recommending hydro to new growers? nice. Go write a grow book brother. Im trying to get new growers, like myself,started off growing good meds. I am a angry new grower with more mistakes than success. I can now confidently grow A+ meds in soil, not phing, and sure as hell no hydro. Hydro is advanced growing, And I dont thinkit is pratical. Do the math on your time, nutrients, and the possibility of power failure leading to disaster. I am a garage growing newb but my 600 hps is about to pull at least 500 grams of to shelf meds. No, i cant grow 2 .5 lbs a light. no i dont ph. I think there are too many grow books and old time WEED growers hurting newbs on purpose or out of ignorance
dbkick
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Un-fucking-real.
You're approaching finshaggy status.
kinetic
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dbkick
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Under informed is an understatement.
op, whats your opinion of shopping lists?
qwizoking
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i dont ph my soil or my hydro, use mg for both, dont flush or let my water sit out and my bud is delicious...also who farms on only 6 acres? i mean i know im in the south and everythings bigger in texas but they are normally 10-30,000acres for things like pecans or peaches or something, 100,000 for corn and cotton.. i have 2, a 10,000acre ranch up by corsicana got bout 500 head of prime black angus yum
contraptionated
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Perhaps the title of this thread should suggest that starving of nitrogen is a myth. Potassium on the other hand is no myth whatsoever. Since I starting using a variation of Fatmans DIY nutes (which is very heavy on Monopotassium Phosphate, my yields have improved from .55 to .73 gpw in my 3600 watt mixed spectrum rooms (50/50 hps to mh). I don't ever drop the nitrogen in relation to potassium rather I drop all nutes to 35% strength for the last 5 days before chop.
aknight3
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hydro isnt practical??...i think growing in dirt isnt practical....hydro is THE WAY to go, end of story. the reason i say that ph matters but not as much as many think is because people come here as soon as they get a tiny yellow spot on their leaves hoping that we can end all cure all plants. anything on planet earth with below a ph of 5 has been contaminated with something very acidic, rain water, fresh, salt and whatever other type of water on this earth is never acidic, and if it is, it has been contaminated or mixed with something else. what im getting at is not matter where u get ur water from, its 99.9 percent of the time going to be okay for plants when it concerns ph. and like i said if its not, there isa specific reason for as such as acids getting dissolved in the water....theres no reason to fight about this guys, have a good day
SnotBoogie
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best post.
aknight3
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hey kinet, u know whats fucked up dude. i have been growing a few years in dirt again latley just for the fun of it, but the last grow i did, i used very good promix dirt and then i used nothing but miracle grow nutrients, that green shit u buy at walmart, the plants did well, everything went fine during the grow, i dried and cured for 4 weeks, the bud is very good but has like no smell until you break it up, i beleive personally this is from using MG nutes that are chemical'ly and nasty...its just weird, never had something like that happen to me, but i beleive it was the cheap chems in my nutes that my plants dont have good stinky smell...the bud is still very good im jsut saying...
qwizoking
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but really whats the difference between mg's "cheap" chelated iron for example and fox farms more expensive chelated iron..also if you feel so strongly their is organic mg and doesnt have the time release balls some dislike, but it has all nutes minus mag and calcium though the ph balanced av mg has a traces with lime
RockyMtnMan
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I gotta agree with everything you said. I NO LONGER USE GROW SHOPS!
Just because a bottle of nutes has a picture of a bud or a cute frog or an mj leaf on it doesn't mean it is ANY different than any other fertilizer on the market! If you understand NPK ratios, basic science and can dillute to suit your needs, almost any nutes will work! MG included!
I started two years ago with Canna nutes and when they ran out, I switched to MG, and most recently I have settled on a nute called "Jacks Classic". I use this because the math works well for me to achieve the 1-3-2 NPK that I seek for blooming. Costs around $10.00 and lasts for a year flowering 8 plants in a perpetual grow.
I still Ph my water mostly because my water source where I live changes seasonally from river water to resevoir and spikes up and down during that transition.
I have been growing a vegetable garden my entire life however and never once PH'd my hose water I use. I never really thought about it, but those garden vegetables have always thrived in any state that I grew a garden in!
Think how many products and companies that would lose $$$ if people stopped PH testing things.
Not sure the science about a plants ability to absorb nutrients being relative to slight variations in PH.
I am sure if you got way off the chart one way or the other it would probably affect them. (but if your water was real high or low PH, I would be calling your municiple water supply, cause I wouldn't drink it either)
But everywhere I have lived in the USA it's usually around 6.8 - 8.5. I know this because I have aquariums my whole life, so I can tell you the PH and hardness in every place I have lived my entire adult life and I am over 50. tiny sensitive tropical fish require PH management, but that makes sense, since I have seen them die when not properly adjusted.
I ran out of PH down recently and haven't checked my water in weeks. Plants are green, healthy and cranking buds! They look EXACTLY the same!
(just as plants in my vegetable gardens ALWAYS have)
So long test kit, extra chemicals, and my wasted time. I have been thinking about this for a long time.
Thanks Impman for having the balls to challenge the norm and say many of the things I have been thinking for some time.
Sativied
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Rrrrrrreaaallly....
sounds like a magic trick. All I see is clearing up a misunderstanding, that higher potassium doesn't stimulate flowering (thanks for sharing).I disagree. It's exactly what they should do before harvest. This pothead, who grows and smokes marijuana (the THC amongst others) instead of 'plants' or 'vegetables' or 'flower', doesn't need any professor or doctor to tell him what TASTES better; weed with green leaves or weed with leaves from which the chlorophyll has been largely sucked out of. The goal is not to grow a green plant, that's just the initial step of creating quality mj.
woody333333
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i want some big ass buds like the hydro guys got