What's wrong with my plants?

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masta420

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Hello,
I am a beginner grower and am experiencing an issue with my plants. These plants got their first nutrient feeding about 4 days ago, I am using Foxfarm. It seems like the yellowing of the leaves on the bigger one has been spreading up faster in the last couple days. I have 3 other clones the same size that are not having this issue. The seedlings got half the nutrients the clones did, and they started drooping about 2 or 3 days ago. The tips are burnt a tiny bit. Maybe I gave them too much? I use tap water, and do not check or adjust the ph. I have done this with two previous grows, which were also outdoor, and did not experience problems. This is the first time I have used foxfarm nutrients though, so maybe that has something to do with it. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thank you.




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doujadaze

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Even with fox farm soil you will still need to add nutes for best results. They don't look to bad so don't be too worried. As for the two smaller ones have you checked on the roots yet? I would upcan pretty soon. And as far as those nutes. What are the npk values of the one you used? I highly highly doubt it has to do with your ph. But can check it anyway. Why not. I use water from my hose with no problems. Hope it helps. Good luck
 
Popcorn900

Popcorn900

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dlftmyers said:
I would check my P.H. To be on the safe side
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I agree. It's a clear case of to high PH.

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This should help you.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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I wouldn't have waited so long for a first feeding. They probably are a little burnt from the ferts, as they aren't used to it. I wouldn't feed for a couple of watering's, and then build up from half strength to full in a few watering's. Good luck
 
LadyZandra

LadyZandra

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Are you following a feeding schedule, or "winging it' based on the bottle??
Fox Farms has a real specific regimen for their nutes-- and yes- their soil is REALLY rich, so you start very low with the nutes-- in fact, start with what they suggest for clones & seedlings and go from there so they adjust! The Fox Farms Schedule is below (their info from the chart, just re-written so easier to follow)

Good Luck!


FOX FARMS SCHEDULE

Product list:

Grow Big--$16
Tiger Bloom--$16
Big Bloom --$16
Open Seseme--$23
ChaChing--$23
Beastie Bloom --$23
And the Optional : Bush Doctor Sledgehammer--$26

There is a 3-pack available for $65 of Open Sesame, Cha Ching and Beastie Bloom IF you can find it!

The last 4 Products are used in small quantities and only at specific times during the grow -- so if you know someone who wanted to go in on the 3-pack with ya, it would be worth it!

Here's the FoxFarms Feeding Schedule for Soil... Hydro is MUCH more complex, unless you use bubblersthen you can follow a Phasic feeding schedule (At end of weekly schedule!)


FOX FARMS FEEDING SCHEDULES


WEEKLY FEEDING- per Gallon
Sprouting and week 1--BigBloom 2TBS
week 2-- 2tsp Grow Big + 2TBS Big Bloom
Week 3--3tsp Grow Big + 2TBS Big Bloom
Week 4--JUST 3 tspGrow Big + 1/4 tsp Open Sesame
Week 5 same as week 4 unless going 12/12--

Week 5- OR--day 1 of 12/12-- 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Open Sesame
Week 6--same as above
Week 7-- 2 Tsp Grow Big + 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/4 tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 8-- 2Tsp Grow Big + 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 9-- 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/4 tsp Cha Ching
week 10-- Same as above
Week 11--2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Cha Ching


At beginning of week 11--Check Trichomes-- Flush if ready.. otherwise, continue as with week 11 every week until you flush!


Also recomended--but not a nessesity--
Bush Doctor Sledgehammer (prevents lock-out)
use 2 drops per gallon of water between feedings starting in week 4 of 12/12
 
1itsme

1itsme

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is that burn on the lower leaves of the first pic, or yellowing between the veins? ppl have alot of diff experiences with ffof. when i tried it i had alot of probs. one of them was that it wasn't buffered very well and i got some lockout (mag). i added a little dolomite lime to it and the prob went away.
 
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doujadaze

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That schedule is helpful. But who in the world would feed off a schedule. In dirt. Maybe hydro uses one. You feed based off of what the plant needs at the time not a pre planned schedule. Thats crap. Stay Away. Don't follow that but use it as a reference. Your plant will tell you what it needs and when it needs it. I used that fox farm crap and didn't like it. Horrible. Much better success using dyna gro. 2 different products thats it. Hope it helps. Keep it simple.
 
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masta420

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doujadaze said:
Even with fox farm soil you will still need to add nutes for best results. They don't look to bad so don't be too worried. As for the two smaller ones have you checked on the roots yet? I would upcan pretty soon. And as far as those nutes. What are the npk values of the one you used? I highly highly doubt it has to do with your ph. But can check it anyway. Why not. I use water from my hose with no problems. Hope it helps. Good luck
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Foxfarm Big Bloom: 0.01-0.3-0.7
Foxfarm Grow Big: 6-4-4


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masta420

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1itsme said:
is that burn on the lower leaves of the first pic, or yellowing between the veins? ppl have alot of diff experiences with ffof. when i tried it i had alot of probs. one of them was that it wasn't buffered very well and i got some lockout (mag). i added a little dolomite lime to it and the prob went away.
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I am not too sure what it is exactly, it started with the yellowing, it looks like the tips are starting to brown and die off a bit. It doesn't look too extreme, but then again, I'm new to this
 
1itsme

1itsme

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well it kinda looks like a mag thing to me which could be from ph or just wants more mag. ffof tends to be kinda weakly buffered imo. some lime would adress all 3 issues, and, it's not going to hurt anything if it turns out to be something else.
 
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masta420

New Member
1itsme said:
well it kinda looks like a mag thing to me which could be from ph or just wants more mag. ffof tends to be kinda weakly buffered imo. some lime would adress all 3 issues, and, it's not going to hurt anything if it turns out to be something else.
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How should I go about doing this? I think it is weird that my other 3 clones are not showing any signs of this, not that I want them to.
 
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Fresh 2 De@th

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i suggest letting those pots dry out a lot before your next watering/feeding. from the looks of the plants, they look to be waterlogged and could be the source of your issues.
 
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