What do you know about aliens?

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guy incognito

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Not the only tool* I didnt use a tool to discover reality, just coincidence and experience, which I know is hardly a good explanation since theres people who claim to have experienced big foot, Jesus, and a million other things that are bullshit, I know you only have my word when I say Im one of the exceptions but it is what it is. Sometimes people really do experience what they say to experience, like seeing alien space ships and shit lol tryin to keep this thread on track. I understand your skepticism for everything else but its really comical that skeptics deny the existence of aliens on earth lol.... Weather balloons... tehe.
Can you provide any evidence?
 

Chronic Masterbator

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Oh wow look...

Alien Technology
[video=youtube;WwTbUfaPcLo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwTbUfaPcLo[/video]

In response too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRvVN39ZwtM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
what about the second link with the young woman. Hers wasn't connected to a box no wiring and it appears to have a dial pad?? Also the first link its cool that you mentioned hearing amplifier but why does she appear to be talking into it.?? She wasn't walking with no one??
 

Chronic Masterbator

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Really good read on chinas war with aliens http://theunknownmoment.blogspot.com/2013/04/chinas-ancient-war-with-aliens.html then there is the story of india's vimanas. And here are some interesting pics.alien-ufo-extraterrestrial-hieroglyphs-sumerian-pictogram-anunnaki-3.jpg120px-Vimanas_17.JPGimages-3.jpegVimanas.jpgimages-2.jpeg d3a0a31d5a3a.jpgvimana-ufo.jpgac435cd5f76d.gifimages-4.jpeg I find the last photo most interesting. Simply cause it appears to be a light bulb. This one I find most credible. And amazing because it was before supposedly Einstien invented the light bulb. There are two things to support this and has been tested. One a torch would NOT burn in the deepest parts of any pyramid low oxygen. Even if you used a series of mirrors you still couldnt see good enough to build. The light penatration wouldnt be good past a certain point. Where and how did they learn this??

What I also find interesting is different cultures in completly far away from each other had similar events.
 

Chronic Masterbator

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Interesting note my phone shut of twice trying to post this. My PC shut down several times trying to post this as well. Weird I never had that happen wtf??
 

mindphuk

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When and where links please. Also the debunkers are trained to give disinformation. In that disinformation we find chunks of truth. The Mayan jewelry of airplane has a vertical tail so its not a bird. They jewelry has been carbon dated.
Therefore any evidence against my conspiracy is evidence for my conspiracy. Way to go...self-delusion ftl!
 

Heisenberg

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I can pick up my bong, I can smoke it, I can show it to other people, they can smoke it.

In the absolute broadest sense, you can use science to confirm it exists, by proposing a hyposthesis;
"My bong exists"
This is not a hypothesis, it's an assertion of fact. To form a hypothesis, you need a collection of facts. The hypothesis is the framework in which you connect those facts. A good hypothesis will not only explain the facts but also account for any disparity between them.

Then you can perform an experiment and smoke from it, this verifies your results. After verifying it for yourself, it's time to replicate the experiment; so give the bong to your friend and let him/her smoke it. If they can see it, grasp it, and smoke from it; you have replicated your results and have successfully verified that the bong exists.
You have only established a fact. Facts are observable and verifiable. Anyone can look at them an make the same identical observations or measurements. "My bong exists" is just a fact that people can verify.

For 'things that exist' an experiment like this is very doable. Depending on what objects are used, you may need to use different equipment to measure with. You can't very well grasp X-rays, but we certainly do have things to measure X-rays with, that's to say X-rays have a definite measurable interaction with reality.
An experiment is meant to test some sort of prediction. Because your assertion that your bong exists is simply a fact, no predictions can be made from it. Handing your bong to a friend so that they can verify it is not a test.


Measurements are careful observations. From careful observations we establish facts. Once we get enough facts, we start building a framework to hold them. This framework is called a hypothesis. Any hypothesis can sit there and hold the facts, but to become a theory it must hold the weight of those facts on two legs. It must be able to explain, and it must make accurate predictions. If your hypothesis does not account for all facts, then your ability to explain is weakened and your "explanatory leg" may not support the weight. If your hypothesis connects the facts in such a way as to be unfalsifiable, then you prevent it from ever constructing the second leg, predictability. If you can, through logic, see the implications of the way you connected the facts, then you can make predictions about additional facts we can find; you are testing the hypothesis. If you go looking and do indeed find the facts you expected, then your hypothesis has made an accurate prediction. It has passed a test and now grown both the legs it needs to become a theory. Of course, as the weight of new facts get added to the framework, these legs will continuously be strained and if you are unable to modify them, the theory will topple.

Remember, these legs can only be built from the framework, and the framework is built from facts. When to be suspicious is when a theory tries to replace one or both of these legs with something else, such as conspiracy. A conspiracy may look like support, but it actually renders the theory unfalsifiable, so it prevents any cogent predictions. For example: if a second gunman was involved in the JFK conspiracy we can predict that we will find evidence, facts, to indicate this when we go looking. When we allow conspiracy to masquerade as evidence, we make it impossible to verify this prediction because we have no way of knowing if the facts just aren't there, or if they have been removed by the conspiracy. There is no test we can do, and so there is no way to build our second leg. In this case conspiracy theorists go looking for something else besides facts, they look for anomalies. Anomalies present an apparent disparity between facts, in other words they create a gap, and then the theorists attempts to fill this gap with conspiracy. But notice that this only strengthens the explanatory leg and does nothing to give us the second leg. We have no power to predict and so we are left with wildly differing and often conflicting conspiracy narratives each unable to demonstrate they say anything accurate about the world. There are many other things people try to weave into the framework to count as facts: emotion, consequences, appeals to bad logic; but none of these allow us to build the support a true theory requires, and so these ideas crumble from the slightest pressure, like a house of cards.
 

mindphuk

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you're funny you know what I mean but choose to be a dick about it.
No, I have no idea what you mean except what you wrote - that people that are skeptical of extraordinary claims and end up debunking them because they actually take time to research, verify and test them, are somehow involved in a disinformation campaign. This can only be described as a form of confirmation bias, i.e. if someone debunks your claim, then they are part of the conspiracy to hide the real truth, reinforcing your belief in the claim. This is delusional, faulty thinking, the polar opposite of critical thinking.

I assume you didn't watch the videos or even consider the information I posted for you earlier. I actually tried to help you understand some things about those of us trained in science and critical thinking. But since you continue to be obnoxious with your lack of legitimate responses and name-calling, I will just assume that you are unable to understand and grasp the subtleties of actually reasoned, intellectual dialogue and unable to recognize your own cognitive biases so will merrily push forward with your credulousness and deficient thought processes.
 

tyler.durden

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Really good read on chinas war with aliens http://theunknownmoment.blogspot.com/2013/04/chinas-ancient-war-with-aliens.html then there is the story of india's vimanas. And here are some interesting pics.View attachment 2709684View attachment 2709685View attachment 2709686View attachment 2709687View attachment 2709689 View attachment 2709691View attachment 2709697View attachment 2709698View attachment 2709700 I find the last photo most interesting. Simply cause it appears to be a light bulb. This one I find most credible. And amazing because it was before supposedly Einstien invented the light bulb. There are two things to support this and has been tested. One a torch would NOT burn in the deepest parts of any pyramid low oxygen. Even if you used a series of mirrors you still couldnt see good enough to build. The light penatration wouldnt be good past a certain point. Where and how did they learn this??

What I also find interesting is different cultures in completly far away from each other had similar events.
Even more amazing still, since it was Edison, not Einstein, that is credited with inventing the incandescent light bulb. You love that science, huh? ;)
 

tyler.durden

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Not the only tool* I didnt use a tool to discover reality, just coincidence and experience, which I know is hardly a good explanation since theres people who claim to have experienced big foot, Jesus, and a million other things that are bullshit, I know you only have my word when I say Im one of the exceptions but it is what it is. Sometimes people really do experience what they say to experience, like seeing alien space ships and shit lol tryin to keep this thread on track. I understand your skepticism for everything else but its really comical that skeptics deny the existence of aliens on earth lol.... Weather balloons... tehe.
Okay, so we're in agreement that science is the best tool to discover objective reality, though you add not the only tool. Even if it wasn't the only tool, why not always use the best tool and choose an inferior one instead? Let's assume you have discovered reality, and it was through coincidence and experience as you say. You can't possibly be suggesting other people should discard the scientific method in favor of the dumb luck method to discover reality?
 

Nevaeh420

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Since some of you are scientists and trained in critical thinking, what do you all believe that I saw? You might think of a different option but I believe the only options that I saw are either an alien, a human wearing an "invisibility suit" or a undiscovered species of animal that looks humanoid.

Lets assume that My eye witness testimony is faily accurate. Lets also assume that I'm not delusional or lying.

If you assume I am telling the truth to the best of My abilities than what kind of being to you believe I saw on My neighbors roof in about August of 2012, as described in this thread?

Lets talk hypothetically. Hypothetically, if I'm telling the truth, what do you believe I saw?

~PEACE~
 

Zaehet Strife

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Where is that ninja guy from the other closed alien thread, i got that porno done tonight. And i bet i have a bigger dick than him too. hehehehe!!!! PUSSYYYYYYY!!!!! sorry kinda drunk.
 
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