MTG seeds

[racerboy71]

I've sort of always wondered why you would send seeds out for people to test. Why not just grow them out yourself and decide? I mean, if someone tests it and says it's no good. But you the breeder grow it out, and it's great, who are you going to listen to someone you don't really know, or you own lying eyes? Or the reverse being true, people like it, and it's no good when you grow it out. Are you going to base your genetics program on someone else's opinion? If you do by virtue of the very act, your saying you shouldn't be breeding.

ime, it's super common for breeders to give out tester beans to various growers .. not here on riu mind you, but plenty of other forums allow breeders to give out testers for members to grow out and test for the breeders..

the reasons are many imo.. some of them may include..
breeder only has limited space and no room for a new strain..
breeder may want to try strains in as many different environments as possible to test for stress in different environments.. what may grow well in the breeders lab in say soil, may not do well in another persons hydro grow, or vice versa..
breeder looking for honest opinions on his gear, sometimes they might be a bit nice towards their own project than a complete stranger who has no vested time in it will be.
it's a great way for a smaller breeder to get his gear out to the public when he's not so well established in order to build a name for himself without charging people in the process..
breeders not exactly sure if a cross will work out or not, so they give out testers to allow people to try them before going any further with a project..
lots of breeders have so much shit going on, they make so many crosses they'll never possibly have the time and space to do all the work themselves, so they bring in testers to help them do some of the grunt work..

the list really goes on and on and on for the benefits of breeders giving out test beans.. i really don't see much negative coming from it tbh..

 

[racerboy71]

Its for an unbiased opinion and to see how they react to different gardens, methods, growers, etc. It's also a way for new breeders to get their name and products out there.

damn, beat me to it dbozz, lol...

 

[Dbozz628]

Plus, it's a way to get some free beans, if you have the right connections.

 

[mycomaster]

If you give seeds to the right person and they grow it and like it they could make you.

 

[Fresh 2 De@th]

I'm running Orange Creamsicle from MTG right now. The first few are only about 14 days into flower right now.

2 of the first 3 smell super heavily of oranges the other is skunky. At only 14 days there's trich production already.

I was recommended by a couple grower friends to check MTG gear out and so far I'm happy.

Judging a company by the quality of tester beans isn't a very good way of making a fair judgement. Keep in mind they are testers not a tested release.
All the growers that I know running MTG gear are happy.

and what is the difference between tester beans and beans of that very same variety that gets packaged and sold? there is no difference.

if your testers aren't up to par, more than likely the rest of the beans of that variety aren't up to par. that is one of the main reason breeders send out testers.

also, if Coolkid said he wouldn't buy them, i am more inclined to take his word as oppose to going against it. he's very impartial towards any breeders stock and always speak honestly from his personal experience.

 

[ink the world]

You obviously don't understand the concept of a tester vs. a regular release.

A regular release has gone through the testing process and proven itself worthy of release. The strain he tested isn't on their roster, it didn't make the cut.

I'll take the word of myself and my friends that all grow for a living.

 

[ink the world]

If testers aren't up to par they don't become regular releases genius

 

[Fresh 2 De@th]

You obviously don't understand the concept of a tester vs. a regular release.

A regular release has gone through the testing process and proven itself worthy of release. The strain he tested isn't on their roster, it didn't make the cut.

I'll take the word of myself and my friends that all grow for a living.

no dick head, you obviously don't understand the concept of what the fuck you're talking about, stupid. the beans that are being tested are the same one's that will be of the same stock when released eventually. so once again, what is the difference between tester beans and the same beans of said variety that is up to be sold from the same stock? the answer would be nothing genius.

and don't tell me about testing, because i am a tester myself. smart guy.

 

[ink the world]

You're fucking retarded or have the reading comprehension of a baboon.

Answer me this dolt. If a tester doesn't make the cut it doesn't get released. How the fuck is that a commercial release?
His testers never were released you damned fool. They got tested and didn't make the cut. It's pretty fucking simple wise ass.

Learn how to read and reason before you spout off a bunch of uninformed and incorrect bullshit information

 

[ink the world]

Basing your opinion of a breeder on a strain that failed testing and was never released is laughable.

 

[Fresh 2 De@th]

no you're the retard, lame. if you look at my post instead of spouting at the mouth with your uninformed and incorrect bullshit information, you would have seen

• "the beans that are being tested are the same one's that will be of the same stock when released eventually".​

  
  
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also, just because you don't see it up on the tude, that doesn't mean that it didn't make the cut. being that you're the dummy in the situation, let me help you out. the choices that you see up there, are the one's that the tude choose to vend out of MTG's catalog and not for the reason you stated, stupid.
just to accentuate my point, here's an example for you. if you notice, some strains of the same seedbank only is stocked at the tude, i.e. RD. when asked why not stock all instead of some, RD replied by saying "that is what the tude decided to stock, it's was not there decision". you get it now lame?

so talk that shit to someone who doesn't know any better, instead of trying to claim like you know it all or speak for all.

 

[ink the world]

no you're the retard, lame. if you look at my post instead of spouting at the mouth with your uninformed and incorrect bullshit information, you would have seen

• "the beans that are being tested are the same one's that will be of the same stock when released eventually".​

  
  
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also, just because you don't see it up on the tude, that doesn't mean that it didn't make the cut. being that you're the dummy in the situation, let me help you out. the choices that you see up there, are the one's that the tude choose to vend out of MTG's catalog and not for the reason you stated, stupid.
just to accentuate my point, here's an example for you. if you notice, some strains of the same seedbank only is stocked at the tude, i.e. RD. when asked why not stock all instead of some, RD replied by saying "that is what the tude decided to stock, it's was not there decision". you get it now lame?

so talk that shit to someone who doesn't know any better, instead of trying to claim like you know it all or speak for all.

lol WTF does Attitude have to do with anything? Check the MTG site for info on their strains and tell me you can find those testers that are now a commercial release. I don't get me beans with Attitude anymore, I'll keep my $ here in the states.


Funny thing is we are both correct and arguing about different things. You're correct in that if a tester is successful then those same beans are then released to the public.

My point is that from what I see on MTG sight those beans aren't in their lineup. That sounds like they went out as testers, didn't make the cut and weren't released. We're both pissing on each other and were talking apples and oranges.

 

[ink the world]

Check out Holistic Nursery or NorCal Seedbank man, lower prices, no customs inspection and your $ stays here in the states ��

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

I am going to run some MTG gear very soon. I will post the grow when I drop them. I broke down and ordered them from the attitude. I'll be running 3 strains. The Covelo Sour Diesel, Stoney Creek OG, and the True Blue. I can't wait. Now all they have to do is get to me. I saw an email someone posted on RIU very recently from the tude that said they would be enacting changes in their shipping methods. Lets see if they do.

@ Ink the world.....does the Holistic Nursery or the NorCal Seedbank send to non medical peeps? I'll be legal September 27.

 

[ink the world]

Easy as pie...never asked for documentation

 

[Uncle Pirate]

Check out Holistic Nursery or NorCal Seedbank man, lower prices, no customs inspection and your $ stays here in the states 👍

In a different post you said beware of Holistic due to bait and switch. What happened with that?

I've ordered from Holistic and got my delivery across the country in less than a week. That said I won't be ordering from them again.

MTG Seeds just announced they are no longer distributing to Holistic due to issues w/ bait and switch stuff and orher problems. Buyer beware...I should mention that both packs I got had weird seed numbers...one had 9 the other had 11.....buyer beware

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

I was looking at the NorCal Bank anyway.

 

[ink the world]

In a different post you said beware of Holistic due to bait and switch. What happened with that?

The whole issue disappeared, they never really said anything else about it after that initial post they made....I know that Holistic no longer carries MTG gear. I can tell you that the packs I got from Holistic were legit, both strains are what they're supposed to be.

I was passing along information from MTG, that's all. Not pointing my finger at either side nor am I taking a side in their differences

 

[greenghost420]

godfather sounds good

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

I have high hopes for this company. They must be pretty damn confident based upon the prices they are charging for their beans. I am not complaining at all. I am more than willing to pay for great genetics. We will see. The Turbo Diesel and its crosses sound nice. Turbo Diesel is Sour Kush x Sour Diesel.