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[Red1966]

Not quite. There is a distinction, both in operation and in design. For instance, modern revolvers (and some DAO autoloaders like that Kel-Tec) do not have an external safety. cn

Kel-Tec omitted safeties as a cost reduction. They take a lot of short cuts and use inferior materials in manufacture. I knew people that work there and they don't recommend them. Nuff said.

 

[Dr Kynes]

which makes it functionally the exact same as a gun with the safety off. i've gone over this already.

no it does not.

i own many guns some with manual safeties others without, and in fact i never use the manual safeties, these things are really pointless.

the "safe" setting is something only a fool would trust, and only a moron would use. if i need my gun handy, i need it ready to function as designed, not disabled by a mechanical safety switch.

the worst gun i ever owned had TWO safeties, one to lock up the slide, and a second to block the firing pin. when carried in the holster or the pocket or waistband the firing pin block would often switch itself on or off, making it not so much a "safety" but a crap shoot, and the slide locking safety was pointless except during disassembly.

the safeties on my rifles are NEVER used, if i have it loaded, i intend to fire it.

my 10mm automatic is not dissimilar from zimmies, except it's much better quality, and it has a safety, as does zimmie's its a "Transfer Bar Safety" which only allows the firing pin to move if the trigger is pulled.

zimmie's guin's trigger was pulled, zimmie does not claim the discharge was accidental, your insistence on arguing about "safeties" is merely a transparent attempt to imply that having the "safety" off is evidence of intention to murder. and therefore owning a gun without any external safety mechanism is proof that zimmie is CrAaaZaZzzy!

zimmie made some bad choices, and should be charged with unlawful possession of a loaded firearm by a dumbass, wilfull stupidity, and "annoying a child" (which IS against the law in florida...) but murder? nope. Trayvawn made nearly as many bad choices that night, and dressing up like a hoodrat was only his first mistake.

 

[UncleBuck]

No one claimed he did but you, smarty.

you made the claim that "zimmerman did not try to detain martin", and there is zero evidence for that claim.

Yes, there was. It can be seen in the photos of the scene. Wounds to back of head. But you know that. You're just a liar.

a photo of zimmerman's head just proves that he had a couple of tiny scratches, one that was 2cm and another that was 0.5 cm.

the photo does not prove how he got those injuries, smart guy.

you're clearly not that bright.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Kel-Tec omitted safeties as a cost reduction. They take a lot of short cuts and use inferior materials in manufacture. I knew people that work there and they don't recommend them. Nuff said.

Ket Tecs suck. thats a fact, but most modern arms do NOT have external safeties. Kelt Tec will do almost anything to make their shit cheaper, but exposing themselves to liability lawsuits when a dumbass shoots his dick off is not one of the things they do.

even the lowly Kel Tec crap has the Transfer Bar Safety to prevent accidental discharge when the gun is dropped or the hammer snags on your BVDs

 

[echelon1k1]

what did you say about the pig who squeals the loudest? squeal, piggy, SQUEAL!

zimmerman is a dumb cop wannabe vigilante who profiled and pursued an innocent child in the dark with his loaded gun, safety off, after talking about these fucking punks, these fucking assholes.

"ultimately avoidable by zimmerman" translates easily to culpable negligence in the death of a minor, zimm's own words about these fucking assholes, these fucking punks, shows ill will and intent, following around this innocent kid in the dark with his loaded gun, safety off, shows a depraved mind.

of course i want to see this asshole in front of a jury of his peers.

you keep trying to bring race into this over and over and over again. the FBI looked into that, it's not a part of this trial. racial hatred is certainly part of your mindset, that we know.

but most of the rest of us are just worried about a vigilante dumbass and not concerned with race at all. not you though, all you see is race. you are pathetic.

DOJ on the other hand, no mention of organizing “protests”....

racists gonna race.

zimmerman being every mother's worst nightmare and deserving to sit in front of his peers for his actions that night.

fucking punks. these fucking assholes always get away.

loaded gun? check. safety off? check. let's go follow this kid.

no safety = safety off,

zimmerman is a dumb cop wannabe vigilante who profiled and pursued an innocent child in the dark with his loaded gun, safety off, after talking about these fucking punks, these fucking assholes.

he never thought to identify himself to martin given several chances to do so, he lied to the police over and over, he lied to fox news, and then he called all of this "god's plan".

the man is a fucking psycho, his history shows this. he should never have been allowed to own a gun in the first place, but got a very lucky plea after assaulting a cop.

"ultimately avoidable by zimmerman" translates easily to culpable negligence in the death of a minor, zimm's own words about these fucking assholes, these fucking punks, shows ill will and intent, following around this innocent kid in the dark with his loaded gun, safety off, shows a depraved mind.

of course i want to see this asshole in front of a jury of his peers.

white dad, latino mom. that help?

why are you making this about race? you guys must be liberals.

all you seem able to do is stroke your raging racial hatred boner, but you can't address the very legitimate reasons why zimmerman is sitting in front of his peers right now, answering for his incredibly stupid actions that night.

martin paid for his skittles and arizona that night, racist brigade.

too bad you guys aren't there to point out to the jury that martin is black, case would probably be over in a few minutes if you guys just had that chance.

there is ZERO evidence that martin assaulted anyone, there is plenty of evidence that martin had to defend himself from a vigilante who was profiling and pursuing him.

yeah, the little black kid should have known his place!

whereas zimmerman, the cop wannabe vigilante with the long history of violence and the loaded gun with the safety off was completely innocent when he profiled and pursued that fucking punk, that fucking asshole who was always getting away.

jesus christ you are dumb and racist.

he was chasing a kid around in the dark with his loaded gun, safety off, muttering obscenities about these fucking punks and these fucking assholes.

but it's all the black kid's fault and there is no possible way he was defending himself from the man with the gun chasing the kid around in the dark.

racism is alive and well in america.

if you think it is damning for someone to get out of their place of safety and chase a kid around in the dark with their loaded gun, bullet in the chamber, no safety*, that is your impression.

 

[UncleBuck]

Trayvawn made nearly as many bad choices that night, and dressing up like a hoodrat was only his first mistake.

i look like a hoodrat from october through march overy year then.

 

[Dr Kynes]

i look like a hoodrat from october through march overy year then.

might wanna steer clear of gated communities then...

also, oregon is not central florida.

when i see a dumbass wearing a hoodie and a knit cap lurking around my place on a warm evening, i watch his ass closely, WITH MY PISTOL (Which does not have a safety!!), or a shotgun (also no safety!!), depending on my mood.

 

[NietzscheKeen]

We assume we can go at any time, but never do. The sun comes up every day, but how often do we watch the sunrise? Its really quite amazing.

Don't start going The Crow on my ass, lol.

 

[UncleBuck]

might wanna steer clear of gated communities then...

also, oregon is not central florida.

when i see a dumbass wearing a hoodie and a knit cap lurking around my place on a warm evening, i watch his ass closely, WITH MY PISTOL (Which does not have a safety!!), or a shotgun (also no safety!!), depending on my mood.

martin wasn't "lurking around", he was walking through a communal area in a community that was not fully gated with a hoodie to cover his head on a cool, rainy night.

if it was so warm, why was zimm-zimm-zala-bimm wearing a jacket too?

i've been occupying a lot of my late nights on guard duty by playing family feud's free online game, can you guess what the number one answer was to "what do people cover when it starts raining?"?

nice mischaracterizations though.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

Don't start going The Crow on my ass, lol.

RIP Brandon Lee.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

might wanna steer clear of gated communities then...

also, oregon is not central florida.

when i see a dumbass wearing a hoodie and a knit cap lurking around my place on a warm evening, i watch his ass closely, WITH MY PISTOL (Which does not have a safety!!), or a shotgun (also no safety!!), depending on my mood.

I bet you are a 10 gauge sawed off type of dude.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

Kel-Tec omitted safeties as a cost reduction. They take a lot of short cuts and use inferior materials in manufacture. I knew people that work there and they don't recommend them. Nuff said.

Neither do I. The gun is a piece of shit. Sensitive to EVERY type of ammo, FTF(failure to fire), FTE(failure to eject),FTF(failure to feed). Hell, I'm surprised the gun even went off when he pulled the trigger. Only thing that gun is good for is a paperweight.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

I never act as a group. cn

No me, myself and I's? That is three personalities right there.

Not quite. There is a distinction, both in operation and in design. For instance, modern revolvers (and some DAO autoloaders like that Kel-Tec) do not have an external safety. cn

I think you forgot who you were talking to. I'm pretty sure he doesn't know what DAO is (without googling it).

 

[Padawanbater2]

I predict manslaughter

 

[Dr Kynes]

I bet you are a 10 gauge sawed off type of dude.

nope.

12 gauge pump with the extended tube, ghost ring sights and a mixed load of 00, and slugs on a full cylinder bore (chokes are for pansies)

usually i carry my 10mm automatic, why piss off the coroner by making him use a shop-vac to get the stiff into his van .

 

[Dr Kynes]

I predict manslaughter

i predict acquittal, the prosecutors made a mess of the trial, and the jury will most likely tell the dumbass to pound sand, which is a shame, zimmie should have been indicted by a grand jury, charged with a crime the grand jury finds cause for and then tried for THAT crime, not this political dog and pony show.

 

[Doer]

I bet you are a 10 gauge sawed off type of dude.

You say that like its a bad thing. It is just an ammo/weight for me. A #8 coach gun with a 10" barrel is a tool for a certain job. But, the pump 12 is the best all around, I think.

 

[Doer]

i predict acquittal, the prosecutors made a mess of the trial, and the jury will most likely tell the dumbass to pound sand, which is a shame, zimmie should have been indicted by a grand jury, charged with a crime the grand jury finds cause for and then tried for THAT crime, not this political dog and pony show.

I think the MS is going to get him. Nothing at all fair about political dog and pony show. However, the Prosecution is going the long way around after the bogus GJ charge of 2nd.

 

[NietzscheKeen]

I predict manslaughter

I feel there is too much racial tension and pressure and think the case should be thrown out. I also know they aren't going to do that and at think they will say manslaughter as well despite it being a blatant blow to justice if that is indeed the reason they choose manslaughter.

 

[NoDrama]

Not quite. There is a distinction, both in operation and in design. For instance, modern revolvers (and some DAO autoloaders like that Kel-Tec) do not have an external safety. cn

I hate safeties, so much so that most of the firearms I own do not have external safeties. Never experienced an unintended shot in 40 years of shooting.

the best safety there is is the one where you don't put your finger on the trigger.

Kel Tecs DO HAVE SAFETIES though, they are built into the trigger, as are many revolvers. An old Colt SAA had no safety at all, which is why you would never carry 6 rounds in your 6 shooter, but instead leave the hammer down on an empty chamber.

The fact that UB and others think that an external safety is what saves people from being killed only tells those of us in the know that those people don't know jack squat about the subject.

Depending on a external safety only keeps you from practicing disciplined firearm operations, in effect it makes you lazy about gun safety.

UB and the others wouldn't know an external safety from a de-cocker to a fire selector.