under current dwc.

bdt1981

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Im scaterbrained as i cant figure out if buying an under current system includes an epicenter. Or is it bought seperatly? Thx
 

karousing

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i am under the impression that for the most part the epicenter will come with it but of course read the fine print before doing anything.
 

bdt1981

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i am under the impression that for the most part the epicenter will come with it but of course read the fine print before doing anything.
Weell the instructions show it as part 1 but on the description where it has parts it comes with it says 8 gallon growth modules but nothing about the epi. Guess i woll try to email them
 

savana

Active Member
Why not build what you need? Even if you are not mechanicly inclined , there is enough step by step information out there to walk you thru eveything .
 

bdt1981

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Why not build what you need? Even if you are not mechanicly inclined , there is enough step by step information out there to walk you thru eveything .
because in no way could I or anyone else build the same product. im down with diy but there is no way it is worth building for the quality of product cch2o offers
 

redi jedi

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because in no way could I or anyone else build the same product. im down with diy but there is no way it is worth building for the quality of product cch2o offers
LOL...Anyone could build an undercurrent knock off for 1/4 the price. The only component that is hard to find is the new black 8 & 13 gal modules. Actually its not hard if you want to buy a trailer load of them.
 

Metasynth

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LOL...Anyone could build an undercurrent knock off for 1/4 the price. The only component that is hard to find is the new black 8 & 13 gal modules. Actually its not hard if you want to buy a trailer load of them.
Or you could just use totes? The ruffneck black ones are great, and I think they make a 10 gallon.
 

Metasynth

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The List

14
Reservoirs, preferably 8 gallons-ish, with lids
28 2" Uniseals...Contacted a guy on craigslist about buying 28 brand new 2" uniseals, offered 45 bucks, we'll see what he comes back with.
Schedule40 PVC, 2", probably aroud 30 feet or so
8 2" PVC elbow fittings
2 2" x 1" "T" fittings
2 1" "T" fittings
2 1" ball valves
15-20 feet of 1" or 3/4" tubing
2 Return pumps, around 600GPH each
2 Float valves
1 55 gallon freshwater reservoir, or directly connected RO/DI Unit or Tallboy filter
Airline Tubing
14 Airstones
1 Badass Industrial air pump, or 2 regular industrial aip pumps
12 Five or Six inch netpots
50L Hydroton
Possibly a chiller down the line, depending on room temps.


Thanks for reading guys!
 

redi jedi

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The List

14
Reservoirs, preferably 8 gallons-ish, with lids
28 2" Uniseals...Contacted a guy on craigslist about buying 28 brand new 2" uniseals, offered 45 bucks, we'll see what he comes back with.
Schedule40 PVC, 2", probably aroud 30 feet or so
8 2" PVC elbow fittings
2 2" x 1" "T" fittings
2 1" "T" fittings
2 1" ball valves
15-20 feet of 1" or 3/4" tubing
2 Return pumps, around 600GPH each
2 Float valves
1 55 gallon freshwater reservoir, or directly connected RO/DI Unit or Tallboy filter
Airline Tubing
14 Airstones
1 Badass Industrial air pump, or 2 regular industrial aip pumps
12 Five or Six inch netpots
50L Hydroton
Possibly a chiller down the line, depending on room temps.


Thanks for reading guys!
Totes work fine too.

Why 2 water pumps?
 

Metasynth

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I made that list a while back when I was thinking about getting 2 separate systems running to stagger harvests.
 

Metasynth

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Haha...didn't realize I posted the same thing in two different texts using different words...I must be stoned! ;)
 

savana

Active Member
Yea .. I would say what I built is better then what they sale at a fraction of cost. I use tank fitting on mine instead of leaking uniseals .
 

Medicgray

Member
Epicenter comes w any full undercurrent system. Plus air pump, water pump, etc. If you get a bare bones kit it's just buckets and piping. I did the DIY version, but went w undercurrent for the bulkheads. Don't get the kit w the uniseals... Go w the bulkheads, no leaking, no lining to put together, no bs or frustration. The bulkheads have 3 seals. (2 o ring and a flat washer) well worth the extra $ if going DIY. Oh and the newer undercurrent buckets are black, that's the kits w the bulkheads.
 

Medicgray

Member
Meta, don't skip on a chiller. It'll save you a ton of headaches. You need lots of disolved oxygen, you ghet that w the right res temp. I setup 2 systems and use wort chillers ( a home brew item) daisy chained together so i can have 1 chiller doing both systems. Plus you need to plan on either a sterile res. or a bacterial one. You'll find guys w opinions on both schools of thought.
 
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