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Balzac89

Balzac89

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Logges said:
1.- Vegetables may contain just as much contaminants as meat.
2.- Too often people relate to animals suffering, and forget about how for nature everything is an important and it doesn't matter if you have a face or fur. Many native American tribes understood this and pleaded to give back to the earth what they took as part of a cycle, whether it was plucking a flower or hunting buffalo.
3.- Vegetables are often produced under horrible conditions for laborers, sometimes illegal laborers.
4.- It is easy to dismiss eating animal produce when all you do is look in another aisle. When you see nature working closely you will see we are just part of a cycle.

The best reason i think would be to eat healthier. If you worry about the animals suffering then that's ridiculous. I'd rather stab a lamb than chop down a tree.
420God has a very good point of view on this.

The problem is mass producing.
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How many diseases are cause by consumption of meat? How many from consuming plant matter?

Most contaminants are stored in fat cells in meat.
 
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pabloesqobar

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I haven't bothered to look it up, but I wonder how many of the folks that live to be really old eat meat.

Like all those people that live to see their 90's. Even the 100 year old folks. How many of them eat/ate meat.

And how many of them were vegetarians. I have no idea. But it would be interesting to see if there are any statistics showing length of life, and a correlation (preferably causation) with being a meat eater, vegetarian, vegan, etc.
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
pabloesqobar said:
I haven't bothered to look it up, but I wonder how many of the folks that live to be really old eat meat.

Like all those people that live to see their 90's. Even the 100 year old folks. How many of them eat/ate meat.

And how many of them were vegetarians. I have no idea. But it would be interesting to see if there are any statistics showing length of life, and a correlation (preferably causation) with being a meat eater, vegetarian, vegan, etc.
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I know of hand Asians who eat mostly plant based diets have the highest life expectancy. Take Japan for instance which has the highest life expectancy at 83
 
sunni

sunni

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pabloesqobar said:
I haven't bothered to look it up, but I wonder how many of the folks that live to be really old eat meat.

Like all those people that live to see their 90's. Even the 100 year old folks. How many of them eat/ate meat.

And how many of them were vegetarians. I have no idea. But it would be interesting to see if there are any statistics showing length of life, and a correlation (preferably causation) with being a meat eater, vegetarian, vegan, etc.
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there are tons of statistics!!!
specifically on heart disease vegans have 4% chance, where as meat eaters have 50% provided no other hereditary is there

Cholesterol is
vegan -157-165 (male or female)
meat eater - 189-196

Triglycerides
vegans 85
meat eaters 107
 
hempyninja309

hempyninja309

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My family hates the fact I don't eat meat and are just starting to semi accept the fact that I smoke herb. I stopped eating meat by choice 4 years ago and my family still tries to get me to eat it.
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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Could you put yourself in the position of the animals? Being locked in a cage no bigger than 3 times your size. Any operation conducted on you is done without anesthesia. Forced sterilization. Having s steel bolt fired into your brain and or being slaughter while still alive.
 
Cowboykush

Cowboykush

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I dont think i could give up eating meat. But can see why people want to make that choice. I dont think the meat supply or the produce are safe in todays world,too many drugs & pesticides.
 
hempyninja309

hempyninja309

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It baffles me how soo many people with diet related illnesses fall into the matrix of the pharmaceutical companies and their pills. Makes me angry how they take advantage of the misinformed mass majority, making themselves rich at the expense of others health and lives.
 
Rayne

Rayne

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When I went vegan: My mother asked a bunch of questions and accepted it after she heard how my skin, eyes, hair, and nails all changed. My father just said it your choice son and I'll respect your decision. My two eldest sisters haven't said anything but one of them went vegan for a little while and the other just has a vegan meal a few times a week. My younger brother just accepted it. My girlfriend, at the time, thought I was going to be vegan for a little while and then start eating animal meat again.

For me going vegan and remaining with the lifestyle was more about doing the next most peaceful thing that I can do. I don't know exactly how long I have been following the eating lifestyle, but I don't ever plan on eating animal products again.
 
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jtprin

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For me, I've been slowly developing a taste for more and more vegetables. Kale, cherry tomatoes, spinach, celery w/ almond butter.
 
Total Head

Total Head

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Balzac89 said:
I know of hand Asians who eat mostly plant based diets have the highest life expectancy. Take Japan for instance which has the highest life expectancy at 83
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comparing life expectancies in countries isn't the whole picture. there are many factors that contribute to how long the average citizen lives like overall quality of life, access to health care, stress, standard of living, etc. africa for example consumes the least meat of anyone and they certainly aren't outliving anyone. japan eats roughly half the amount of meat as the united states but they're not exactly a vegetarian country, though they do eat a fuckton more veggies than americans. it's their general palate for food that contributes to the body's nourishment that is a major difference between them and americans.

things like steaming veggies or cooking them in broth vs frying them in oil, eating white rice vs eating shitty bleached flour white breads, eating more fish than beef, the fact that japan consumes about 66% less sugar in a particular year than the US, japan doesn't coddle children with finicky eating habits by feeding them shit food just so they'll shut up, drinking unsweetened tea vs soda, etc. to say that it's as simple as meat consumption is a copout. culturally, japan and the US are extremely different in just about every way imaginable. to reduce it to a matter of meat is really oversimplifying it.

do americans eat more red meat than is healthy? of course we do. do americans eat enough vegetables? hell no. but it's our entire diet that is in need of an overhaul, not just what types of dead things we choose to consume. i've got nothing against vegetarianism or veganism, but to prop up the argument by comparing the US to japan is borderline obscene. the american diet is almost 100% shit, with or without meat.
 
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vegangirl

Member
I watched Vegucated around the 1st of June and haven't eaten any meat since. Adventures in cooking! Best thing I've ever done.
 
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vegangirl

Member
I became vegetarian after watching "Vegucated" too. I try to prepare mostly vegan stuff, but I'm not 100% there. It's only been about 7 weeks. I feel great about doing it and I have been having fun finding new recipes and new foods. My brother won't understand, but my mom gets it and my sister just asked lots of questions. good luck! You've made a good choice!
 
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