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[kinetic]

Chimpanzees our closest mammal relative kills and eats other mammals, including primates. John McArdle Ph.D., gave the talks in the above link that jprin refuses to acknowledge as factual. It doesn't matter what anyone says, or presents. His mind is made up. Which is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, not everyone is entitled to their own facts.

 

[jtprin]

Id like to see you not buy fruits and vegetables. Pick all your nuts, berries and fruit. Hell do a garden even, but use no shovels, hoes or any other garden tools. Dont wash the fruits and veggies you eat. See if you dont get sick. I bet under those restraints you starve.

None of that makes any sense.

 

[OddBall1st]

Go take down prey like a lion does (something you cant because you lack physical carnivore characteristics), and if you can, eat it raw like the lion and see if you don't get sick.

I can take down some game, even the lion wont go after a Hippo or Rhino alone. Tell me why all the doctors in this world are not protesting meat consumption by giving warnings ? (and don`t say job security) Why is meat not on the poison list ?

 

[Trousers]

None of that makes any sense.

Same could be said about your stance that eating meat makes one die sooner.

 

[jtprin]

You posted that Humans are herbivores then you posted the flawed articles.
It was misleading and very typical of people that argue out of a place of emotion instead of logic.

The study that the first article is based on has been shown to be bullshit.
They neglected to factor in things like weight, age, smoking, drinking...

Those are all very important when comparing mortality.

Since you are unable or unwilling to understand:

If you want to show that meat eaters die younger than vegetarians you should try to make things equal.

If you compare a vegetarian to a man eats meat and smokes, drinks, is older, is obese etc.
Then you should compare that man to a vegetarian that smokes, drinks, is older, is obese etc.

Going by the best mortality studies available, eating meat in moderation does not cause one to die sooner.


You would do much better to pimp the environmental impact meat production has on the Earth, or the ethical stance.
You haven't offered much in the way of showing that meat is bad for people.

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1691919#RESULTS

This study was an ALL-CAUSE mortality study done on over 96,000 people and published this month. The study you're referring to is based off mortality from "ischemic heart disease, stroke or total cardiovascular disease among either gender".

 

[jtprin]

I can take down some game, even the lion wont go after a Hippo or Rhino alone. Tell me why all the doctors in this world are not protesting meat consumption by giving warnings ? (and don`t say job security) Why is meat not on the poison list ?

Really, how many animals can you catch and physically take down without tools?

 

[OddBall1st]

Really, how many animals can you catch and physically take down without tools?

Serious ? Man`s origin has been traced to the Middle East where vegetation was as common as sharks in Colorado. You do realize that vegetation is living too ? How come grass eaters produce the best meat ?

 

[Trousers]

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1691919#RESULTS

This study was an ALL-CAUSE mortality study done on over 96,000 people and published this month. The study you're referring to is based off mortality from "ischemic heart disease, stroke or total cardiovascular disease among either gender".

All cause? Like traffic accidents?
Do you have the whole study available? I am not a member and can not access it all.
I wonder if your study takes into account things like age, weight, smoking, drinking etc.

I linked that study because you mentioned the Japanese.

 

[Autistic Austin]

The links weren't to show that humans are herbivores, they show that meat is not good for you, and so did your article. Processed sugar is bad for you, however, eating fruit isn't.

Meat is good for you, too much is not, just like other healthy stuff can be.

 

[Autistic Austin]

Still looking for that lion with high cholesterol and high blood pressure. They eat meat raw and still alive.

Lions.eat Far less compared to the Average American,.body to size ratio anyway. Plus.if you ate every few weeks, you'd have a metabolism too lol.

 

[Trousers]

again:

Not eating red meat could be a risk factor.
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/11/63

After correcting some measurement errors, the researchers in Europe had to conclude that not only was red meat intake "no longer associated with mortality" but "all-cause mortality was higher among participants with very low or no red meat consumption."

 

[jtprin]

All cause? Like traffic accidents?
Do you have the whole study available? I am not a member and can not access it all.
I wonder if your study takes into account things like age, weight, smoking, drinking etc.

I linked that study because you mentioned the Japanese.

Conclusions and Relevance Vegetarian diets are associated with lower all-cause mortality and with some reductions in cause-specific mortality. Results appeared to be more robust in males. These favorable associations should be considered carefully by those offering dietary guidance.

Meaning everything being equal, vegetarians have a longer lifespan. I am not a member either but we still have access to the conclusion.

 

[Autistic Austin]

Go take down prey like a lion does (something you cant because you lack physical carnivore characteristics), and if you can, eat it raw like the lion and see if you don't get sick.

You know why we would get sick now days right?

 

[jtprin]

Serious ? Man`s origin has been traced to the Middle East where vegetation was as common as sharks in Colorado. You do realize that vegetation is living too ? How come grass eaters produce the best meat ?

Think about that...

You eat the animal for nutrients but the animal gets its nutrients from plants.

 

[OddBall1st]

Lions.eat Far less compared to the Average American,.body to size ratio anyway. Plus.if you ate every few weeks, you'd have a metabolism too lol.

That may be true at this time, but go back 1,000 years.

 

[Autistic Austin]

Id like to see you not buy fruits and vegetables. Pick all your nuts, berries and fruit. Hell do a garden even, but use no shovels, hoes or any other garden tools. Dont wash the fruits and veggies you eat. See if you dont get sick. I bet under those restraints you starve.

Not sure I know where you're going with this lol?

 

[OddBall1st]

Conclusions and Relevance Vegetarian diets are associated with lower all-cause mortality and with some reductions in cause-specific mortality. Results appeared to be more robust in males. These favorable associations should be considered carefully by those offering dietary guidance.

Meaning everything being equal, vegetarians have a longer lifespan. I am not a member either but we still have access to the conclusion.

Plant eaters know what to eat, What part of your body tells you not to eat the non edible plants that will poison you ?

 

[Autistic Austin]

Chimpanzees our closest mammal relative kills and eats other mammals, including primates. John McArdle Ph.D., gave the talks in the above link that jprin refuses to acknowledge as factual. It doesn't matter what anyone says, or presents. His mind is made up. Which is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, not everyone is entitled to their own facts.

Technically they're our closest living, so even tho they have almost 100%, they're way off when it comparasion to what was tho.

 

[Autistic Austin]

None of that makes any sense.

Lmao,.yeah didn't.think so lol.

 

[Autistic Austin]

I can take down some game, even the lion wont go after a Hippo or Rhino alone. Tell me why all the doctors in this world are not protesting meat consumption by giving warnings ? (and don`t say job security) Why is meat not on the poison list ?

Neat fact some may know, Bushmen do NOT give.a fuck. They will straight walk up to a lion that had done.all the work. Straight up walk to it, give it the finger and slice a leg off the pray, that's how men get things done in the wild.