Why are conspiracy theorists so dumb?

[Padawanbater2]

Do you suggest no regulations be put on the foods Americans consume?

 

[guy incognito]

That is NOT what they are saying.

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Why do some supplements have wording (a disclaimer) that says: "This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease"?

This statement or "disclaimer" is required by law (DSHEA) when a manufacturer makes a structure/function claim on a dietary supplement label. In general, these claims describe the role of a nutrient or dietary ingredient intended to affect the structure or function of the body. The manufacturer is responsible for ensuring the accuracy and truthfulness of these claims; they are not approved by FDA. For this reason, the law says that if a dietary supplement label includes such a claim, it must state in a "disclaimer" that FDA has not evaluated this claim. The disclaimer must also state that this product is not intended to "diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease," because only a drug can legally make such a claim.

I don't really know how to break it down any better than they already did.

 

[jtprin]

That is NOT what they are saying.

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I don't really know how to break it down any better than they already did.

That is exactly what they're saying, how is it not?

The disclaimer must also state that this product is not intended to "diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease," because only a drug can legally make such a claim. Why would it be illegal to state that something like a vitamin C supplement could help prevent cancer?

 

[cannabineer]

Just a bit, I just wish people would educate themselves before spreading rampant theories. I figure if maybe one person would wise up and actually do a little research, I would feel a lot better!

Not theories; at best, hypotheses. And even that term is generous. "Wild-ass fabrications" covers most of'em. cn

 

[hempyninja309]

Does the moon really exist?

 

[jtprin]

Not theories; at best, hypotheses. And even that term is generous. "Wild-ass fabrications" covers most of'em. cn

You're right, it's not a theory that gmos, vaccines, and tap water are harmful... it's fact.

[video=youtube;C-XJz5HSCME]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-XJz5HSCME[/video]

 

[Nether Region]

Seems the entire continent of Europe ran Monsanot's GMOs off. Those folks also seem to do better than than the US in education. Correlation? In most of the European countries, the people are much better informed and actually fight for themselves, unlike the Us, where most people just do as they are told and believe everything the tv tells them.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_genetically_modified_organisms_in_the_European_Unionhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/europe-monsanto-gmo-crops_n_3367284.htmlhttp://www.naturalnews.com/040612_GMOs_Europe_Monsanto.htmlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/us-students-still-lag-beh_n_1695516.htmlThe FDA is a joke. Look how many "health" items are sold in the US without ANY FDA regualtion. The US is all about consumerisma dn the corporations making money. The same corporations that donate to the very people making the laws about them. Americans should pay more attention to what is going on. "Conspiracy Theorists" is a broad white wash the corporations use to for anyone pointing out what they are doing. Are there loonies? Sure, but there is also a lot of good info coming from "we the people". The US has become "we the sheople".

 

[cannabineer]

LMFAO, I do not have a child with autism as I have good genetics! If you really believe vaccinations are the cause of autism, then there is no hope for you.

I am insulted. Definitely. Definitely insulted. cn

 

[Nether Region]

Seems the entire continent of Europe ran Monsanot's GMOs off. Those folks also seem to do better than than the US in education. Correlation? In most of the European countries, the people are much better informed and actually fight for themselves, unlike the Us, where most people just do as they are told and believe everything the tv tells them.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/europe-monsanto-gmo-crops_n_3367284.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_genetically_modified_organisms_in_the_European_Unionhttp://www.naturalnews.com/040612_GMOs_Europe_Monsanto.htmlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/europe-monsanto-gmo-crops_n_3367284.html FDA is a joke. Look how many "health" items are sold in the US without ANY FDA regulation. The US is all about consumerisma dn the corporations making money. The same corporations that donate to the very people making the laws about them. Americans should pay more attention to what is going on. "Conspiracy Theorists" is a broad white wash the corporations use to for anyone pointing out what they are doing. Are there loonies? Sure, but there is also a lot of good info coming from "we the people". The US has become "we the sheople".

 

[Nether Region]

Sorry, for some reason my posts do not include several links I have tried to include and I am not able to edit my posts.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

I used to really like and respect Jessie, then I found out he is pretty nuts.



LMFAO, I do not have a child with autism as I have good genetics! If you really believe vaccinations are the cause of autism, then there is no hope for you.

I believe autism is genetic. Scientists have now concluded our genetics can change over time due to environmental factors. Vaccinations are one of many environmental factors. While I don't believe it's very likely vaccinations are the type of environmental factor which have the ability to modify our DNA code, I can't throw out that possibility it might be true for a select few.

 

[cannabineer]

You're right, it's not a theory that gmos, vaccines, and tap water are harmful... it's fact.

[video=youtube;C-XJz5HSCME]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-XJz5HSCME[/video]

That is still steaming from where the pony plopped it. Can you show me non-woo studies that show the harmfulness of
a) GM organisms (and not that Seralini or pig study tripe)?
b) vaccines (from a real source, not OMGvaccines dot com)?
c) tap water (no comment necessary)?
cn

 

[jtprin]

That is still steaming from where the pony plopped it. Can you show me non-woo studies that show the harmfulness of
a) GM organisms (and not that Seralini or pig study tripe)?
b) vaccines (from a real source, not OMGvaccines dot com)?
c) tap water (no comment necessary)?
cn

1.) Lol... "Can you show me studies on GM organisms, just not the one's that prove I am wrong". Why have over 50 countries banned or made it mandatory to label them? Why have over 800 scientists signed a letter urging all governments to ban GMO's? Why do animals naturally avoid GMO crops when given the choice between GM and organic produce?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756170
http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416

2.) I have already done this and even included multiple government websites.
3.) Again, already did this.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Fluoride*makes your teeth stronger. If stronger teeth is bugging you then do meth.

Fluoride applied directly to the tooth can, if done properly, make teeth stronger. There is ZERO scientific evidence (only speculation) fluoride can provide the same effect if given as a systematic dispersal method, like oxygen and THC have when inhaled. A fluoride overdose causes delirium. Why take the chance it's probably not dangerous, when it's very simple to use a method of obtaining water that will prevent the remote possibility of fluoride poisoning from the water? Then I can choose to only get the direct fluoride teeth protection procedure?

 

[cannabineer]

1.) Lol... "Can you show me studies on GM organisms, just not the one's that prove I am wrong". Why have over 50 countries banned or made it mandatory to label them? Why have over 800 scientists signed a letter urging all governments to ban GMO's? Why do animals naturally avoid GMO crops when given the choice between GM and organic produce?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756170
http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416

2.) I have already done this and even included multiple government websites.
3.) Again, already did this.

Those first two links only strengthen your legend of posting fail links with soothing gov't org bits in the URL. They say absolutely nowt about GM, and even less (were it possible) about confirmed mortality form eating them.
2) and 3) suffer from the same problem. I am relieved; for a moment there I thought you would mount a serious defense. Good night. cn

 

[Canna Sylvan]

chlorine is poison, but adding it to our water supply in the correct parts per million has sanitized our water supply and is one of the main reasons why we all live much longer lives now than before we did so.

it's simple chemistry, not conspiracy.

That's not chemistry, it's the opinion of the God known as ATSDR.

 

[budlover13]

while i maintain that the jury is still out on GMOs, i share your belief that conspiracy theories about them, or conspiracy theorism in general, is the sign of a weak mind.

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/361897-inside-conspiracism.html

The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and true deserts. He ascribes all his failure to get on in the world, all of his congenital incapacity and damfoolishness, to the machinations of werewolves assembled in Wall Street, or some other such den of infamy. - H.L. Mencken

Conspiracy theories are popular because no matter what they posit, they are all actually comforting, because they all are models of radical simplicity. - William Gibson

For some individuals, an obsessive compulsion to believe, prove or re-tell a conspiracy theory may indicate one or more of several well-understood psychological conditions, and other hypothetical ones: paranoia, denial, schizophrenia, mean world syndrome.

Psychologists believe that the*search for meaning*is common in conspiracism and the development of conspiracy theories, and may be powerful enough alone to lead to the first formulating of the idea. Once cognized,*confirmation bias*and avoidance ofcognitive dissonance*may reinforce the belief.

Conspiratorial accounts can be emotionally satisfying when they place events in a readily-understandable, moral context. The subscriber to the theory is able to assign moral responsibility for an emotionally troubling event or situation to a clearly-conceived group of individuals. Crucially, that group*does not include*the believer. The believer may then feel excused of any moral or political responsibility for remedying whatever institutional or societal flaw might be the actual source of the dissonance.

Humanistic psychologists argue that even if the cabal behind the conspiracy is almost always perceived as hostile there is, often, still an element of reassurance in it, for conspiracy theorists, in part because it is more consoling to think that complications and upheavals in human affairs, at least, are created by human beings rather than factors beyond human control. Belief in such a cabal is a device for reassuring oneself that certain occurrences are not random, but ordered by a human intelligence. This renders such occurrences comprehensible and potentially controllable. If a cabal can be implicated in a sequence of events, there is always the hope, however tenuous, of being able to break the cabal's power - or joining it and exercising some of that power oneself. Finally, belief in the power of such a cabal is an implicit assertion of human dignity - an often unconscious but necessary affirmation that man is not totally helpless, but is responsible, at least in some measure, for his own destiny.

According to one study humans apply a 'rule of thumb' by which we expect a significant event to have a significant cause. The study offered subjects four versions of events, in which a foreign president was (a) successfully assassinated, (b) wounded but survived, (c) survived with wounds but died of a heart attack at a later date, and (d) was unharmed. Subjects were significantly more likely to suspect conspiracy in the case of the 'major events' — in which the president died — than in the other cases, despite all other evidence available to them being equal. Connected with pareidolia, the genetic tendency of human beings to find patterns in coincidence, this allows the "discovery" of conspiracy in any significant event.

The*furtive fallacy*is an informal fallacy of emphasis. Historian David Hackett Fischer identified it as the belief that significant facts of history are necessarily sinister, and that "history itself is a story of causes mostly insidious and results mostly invidious." It is more than a conspiracy theory in that it does not merely consider the possibility of hidden motives and deeds, but insists on them. In its extreme form, the fallacy represents general paranoia.

Michael Kelly, a*Washington Post*journalist and critic of anti-war movements on both the left and right, coined the term "fusion paranoia" to refer to a political convergence of left-wing and right-wing activists around anti-war issues and civil liberties, which he claimed were motivated by a shared belief in conspiracism or anti-government views.

Social critics have adopted this term to refer to how the synthesis of paranoid conspiracy theories, which were once limited to American fringe audiences, has given them mass appeal and enabled them to become commonplace in mass media, thereby inaugurating an unrivaled period of people actively preparing for apocalyptic millenarian scenarios in the United States of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. They warn that this development may not only fuel lone wolf terrorism but have devastating effects on American political life, such as the rise of a revolutionary right-wing populist movement capable of subverting the established political powers.

Sounds kinda like a "persecution complex" to me. Like many other things in this world

 

[jtprin]

Those first two links only strengthen your legend of posting fail links with soothing gov't org bits in the URL. They say absolutely nowt about GM, and even less (were it possible) about confirmed mortality form eating them.
2) and 3) suffer from the same problem. I am relieved; for a moment there I thought you would mount a serious defense. Good night. cn

Great rebuttal. Go jerk off to some polar bears and stop wasting my time with your delusional responses that do nothing to counter my argument.

 

[jtprin]

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/list.php
http://naturalrevolution.org/828-world-scientists-write-open-letter-to-all-governments-concerning-gmos/

 

[cannabineer]

Great rebuttal. Go jerk off to some polar bears and stop wasting my time with your delusional responses that do nothing to counter my argument.

If you would only post links that have something to do with the argument, you'd have a bit more traction. A life on ice has taught me much about that. You have a distressing capacity to say [arrant horsepoop] is fact, and not provide any corroborating evidence. Just boom state [arrant horsepoop] is fact. I am providing the lurkers the invaluable service of interrupting the flow of equine-digestive propaganda and activating the Dude-Wait-Wut! gland. cn