cannabineer
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My question: what is "pre-emptive"? Most defensive shootings are not pre-emptive in nature if you stick to a decently stringent use of the word. "I shot him back first" doesn't fly in most courts of this land. cn
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UncleBuck
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has your reading compensation failed like zimms prosecution?
Ask sky, she claims;
It's a shame martin wasn't first...
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pointing to another person's questions doesn't answer mine.
like most of what you do, it's just an attempt at distraction from your failure.
my questions stand.
MuyLocoNC
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To the first, maybe because he didn't want to kill anyone. On the off chance he actually isn't the blood thirsty, racist, diabolical madman that he has been made out to be, it stands to reason that he might not want to kill a stranger. I know that doesn't fit the ridiculous narrative that he actually set out to kill, but it certainly would answer your question.why would he be screaming for help while he has wrist control over martin and a gun pointed at his heart?
how could he be screaming for help while being suffocated, like he said happened?
To the latter, because he wasn't suffocated. If he had been SUCCESSFULLY suffocated, he would be dead. Now if TM was ATTEMPTING to suffocate him and couldn't "lock it down", then there would be ample opportunities to draw breath and scream every time the seal was broken in the struggle. To the person having their breathing pattern interrupted, it would certainly feel like they were being suffocated. Especially during a physical confrontation, where your body is naturally trying to take in extra oxygen.
Not saying it did or didn't happen that way, but it is certainly possible.
echelon1k1
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I'm asking sky the same questions? why would he be screaming? If you cannot read not my problem get glasses old man it'll go well with your bad teef and receding hairline
nothing will ever distract from your failure. unless we scuttle her at sea...
UncleBuck
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that has nothing to do with anything.
why would someone scream for help when they have full wrist control over that person and a gun pointed at their heart?
it makes ZERO sense.
would you scream for help if you're winning a fight?
furthermore, there is even more evidence as to how retarded your theory is. zimmy said he did not think he shot martin at first, he said that in a sworn statement (which, of course, he later changed).
so, if he didn't think he had shot martin, why wouldn't he CONTINUE crying for help?
LOL!
good luck explaining that!
LOL!
zimm said he felt like he was being suffocated forever, yet the screams continue uninterrupted in any way!
what mad twist of reality is this?
even if your preposterous theory, is correct, which is impossible as the screaming continued uninterrupted, there is no blood on martin's hands, cuffs, or fingernails despite what you claim to be were multiple attempts to pinch down on his bloody nose.
LOL!
about as realistic as the 54-40 election you predicted (yes, i was wrong, it was not a 10 point lead that you predicted. you were as far detached from reality then as you are now).
jesus fucking christ, don't trip over each other trying to suck zimmy's cock now, guys.
MuyLocoNC
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Asking a question again that was answered fully with a common sense possibility does not diminish the answer, no matter how badly you want it diminished. Also, typing LOL multiple times doesn't add weight to your argument. I'm sorry that you can't grasp the concept that someone in dire circumstances might call out for help so they don't have to take a life. I can and more importantly, that's exactly what I would do if I felt I was about to be forced to use deadly force. You've lost this portion of the argument, anyone reading this exchange can imagine the possibility. Continue to dimiss it as a valid possibility and you continue to show your ass.
I have seen ZERO evidence that corroborates your assertion that the screaming was uninterrupted. Physically impossible as breaths would have to be taken at the very least. Who said you have to use your hands to restrict someone's breathing? He said "it FELT like he was being suffocated forever", obviously not a statement meant to be taken literally.
And as the king of all basic math errors, you don't really want to bring up credibility based on recent events, do you? That's a losing battle before you get off square one, buddy. Best pocket the inflated cheap shots and stick to the issue at hand. I might be tempted to bring up the how a dude with arms like a seven year old girl that has most likely never been in a fight, isn't the best font of information on what transpires during a life and death struggle.
Harrekin
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I love how Zimmerman is somehow automatically racist, yet Trayvon's girlfriends insistence that Trayvon was a racist and called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker" on the phone to her yet he isn't racist at all.
What if Zimmerman was just watching a "creepy ass negro"?
See...?
But Black people can't be racist, only whities, right?
What if Zimmerman was just watching a "creepy ass negro"?
See...?
But Black people can't be racist, only whities, right?
UncleBuck
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"He puts his hand on my nose and my mouth, and he says 'You are going to die tonight," said Zimmerman. "As he banged my head again, I just pulled out my firearm and shot him… He is mounted on top of me, and I just shot him, and he falls off. And he's, like, ‘Alright you got it, you got it.’”
zimmerman did, you dolt. see the above quote.
let's see, i made a simple reading error on a single post.
you, on the other hand, bleated for months about liberal media bias causing skewed polls and a 14 point romney win and the comfort of a man sleeping on a 10 point romney lead...let's play that game.
and all you've ever done is defend instigating that struggle, and ending it in death because you can, but don't have to.
zimm didn't take any sort of a beating, he had scratches and a bloody nose, had no real pain the next day according to his doctor, he refused medical help, wanted to go back to work the next day, and the "struggle" lasted less than a minute.
it was clearly not life and death and we all know it. zimmy told us so, you can even see him walking alertly minutes later.
echelon1k1
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echelon1k1
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Do you know what implications this will have for SYD?
Always have a throwdown handy....
Always have a throwdown handy....
Would that be with an english or irish accent?
ttylAnd everyone here knows you will piss HOT if you just smoked, not trace amounts..
He also said "What a coincidence"..
Does it really matter how one forms an opinion? Cheer him on for educating himself, which is way more than most here who choose to state opinion as fact. Bully.
echelon1k1
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You can swap "boo fucking hoo" with "what difference does it make?" and pretend youre Hillary...Would that be with an english or irish accent?
MuyLocoNC
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I don't know who initiated the physical contact, I've maintained that from the beginning. All I have ever done in this extended debate is offer possible alternatives to those claiming it MUST be this or MUST be that. I've also maintained that I thought whoever struck the first blow was ultimately responsible for the incident turning deadly and that it would be near impossible to convict Zim without evidence proving such. It just so happens that my "prediction" was spot on this time.
If it isn't a life and death struggle when there is a physical altercation and a death, when is it? Oh I see, you mean it isn't a life and death struggle unless Zim get's killed. If TM were here today, he might disagree with you on that one.
Manufactured by GZ.
MuyLocoNC
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Well shit, the prosecution should have had YOU as their star witness. To think, if they had known you had concrete evidence to that fact, Zim would already be rotting in jail. But to the point, even if it was manufactured by Zim, it was still a life and death struggle.
SirGreenThumb
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It seems as though people who have never been in a real altercation or witnessed it first hand cannot grasp the idea that someone can be knocked out with one punch. If GZ would have been knocked out cold he would probably be dead and he would probably have less wounds than what he had that night. People seem to think that because they don't believe that his wounds were significant that his life couldn't have possibly be in danger.
Also, there is significant evidence that TM went all the way back down that T to confront and assault GZ. I wonder if anyone knows that TM had a guy walk back in that 7-11 and buy him 2 blunts. I also wonder if anyone knows that it had taken him nearly an hour to walk a half a mile back to the townhouses. I also wonder if people realize that the toxicology report shows evidence of heavy use of what we now know to be lean(he was also wobbling on the surveillance video, and needing to brace himself on the counter). I also wonder if people realize that it wasn't tea that he was drinking, but yet a watermelon drink that was called tea because the media didn't want to report stereotypes.