couple questions about tea's

[BostonGardenahh]

thanks for the answers people.. i'm deleting this post since i have nothing nice to say.. i'd rather get no advice then bad advice.. it's crazy how you just ask about the shelf life of your tea and you have people giving you crazy advice off topic. some people think because they were able to wrap their head around the concept that you feed your soil not your plant that they are some kind on genius or something. wrong advice is just wrong and coming back time after time to defend that wrong advice IDK what that is. just plain stupid i guess

 

[canefan]

My answer would be yes. Currently have a barrel, I think 40 gallons that has had the base going for about 6 years now. I add my manures and molasses constantly without any ill effects. When the base starts looking a little weak I add more manure, when it stops frothing I add molasses. Suggestion on molasses, go to a feed store and get feed grade molasses much cheaper. I am getting a gallon for what you get a little bottle in the supermarket. LOL I get my manures from pastures close to my place, little more work but its free.

 

[greenlikemoney]

^^^^^^^ What he said.

 

[PeaceLoveCannabis]

I believe it's not impossible. However you really don't need to feed a tea everyday. When you apply a tea, you apply the microbes that you have fed and cultivated off of the fish emulsion/ whatever it is you put in there. Now these microbes go down and do there work in the soil. It's only when they die, when the plant can finally take up the nutrients from the organism.. fungi, bacteria, nematode, or protozoa. Then the plant takes it up and there are still millions to trillions of other microbes in the soil at all times, while this is all going on. I would only use a tea maybe every 2 weeks depending on how the plants look, and on top of that i would water EVERYDAY..Now you mite say you're gonna over water your plants. In 100% organic soil, my studies suggest over watering doesn't happen. It will only happen when the water saturation reaches 100%, therefore no oxygen can penetrate into the medium. So this is a fool proof way to grow. Instead of constantly making a tea ( which I have done.) Constantly have water with molasses and a bubbler in it. So you can keep the microbes that NEED water for life alive. This is the only way the microbes are going to treat you with respect. You will mess up your whole garden doing a synthetic/ organic grow. There is no such thing.. All Or nothing brother...Organics is easy, don't make it hard on yourself.

 

[canefan]

Boston you can do it, very easily done. There are all kinds of different formulas in use, all depends on your soil that you are using. I run a simple one because my composted soil has about everything else I need. I do foliar feed now and then with fish emulsion and my tea depending on what the plant is telling me that it is needing.

 

[PeaceLoveCannabis]

Fungi and bacteria were on this planet way before plants where. They were here decomposing the matter available to them, making it into the simplest form of nutrients. Once plants came around they didn't have to "Learn" or adapt to their enviorment like fungi and bacteria did. They began to take up the already abundant nutrients. That where already processed by bacteria and fungi. Its the soil food web. Plants don't take up kelp meal, or even the bacteria/ fungi from it. They as i understand take up the nutrients that are first taken up by the fungi and or bacteria. Usually in the form of a trade or " exudate ". You can read all about it in Teaming With Microbes. Or you can buy the CD called The Soil Food Web by Dr. Elaine Ingham
But all in all do what you want its your garden....

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

I love teas. I believe in them 100%. Everyone has different ways to use them. Some use them every week and some every 2-3. Personal choice for personal situations. They will help out a bunch.

 

[PeaceLoveCannabis]

You can only aerate your tea indefinitely if you provide adequate food..carbohydrates. If the beneficial microbes eat all this food they go dormant. Sorry my post are too much for your little noodle. I am only trying to help. Everything I said is true and accurate. You're the one on a rant LOL

 

[PeaceLoveCannabis]

Okay I see where you misunderstood. When the medium is completely saturated with water there is no air in the medium. Roots need oxygen. Most people don't water to this point. There for it doesn't really happen. And it is true that plants can't take up nitrogen as it appears in broccoli.. The broccoli is eaten by fungus and or bacteria.. Then the plants.. its this way for most nutrients.
So i don't see what you mean by me not knowing what I am talking about, however i do see where you misunderstood. Sorry.

 

[tekdc911]

ok let me keep this thread on track.. my only question was if kept aerated can i keep my tea indefinitely.. i was not looking for a science lesson.. obviously i know about the fungus and bacteria.. i was just being nice when i said IDK about the bacteria needing to be dead.. it doesn't you want your bacteria and fungus to be alive so that it can do what it does. on top of the fact you have no idea what i'm using for soil or any single detail about my grow.. i'm not try'n to be a dick but i hate this shit all i asked about was keeping my tea aerated indefinitely. and someone pipes in not knowing WTF they are talking about and starts telling me about watering every day and shit.. i've said this before.. i'm new to this.. i might not know the right answer but that doesn't mean i can't recognize the wrong answer.. this is how people get other people to fuck up their grow.. if i was just some Johnny try anything i might start changing up my grow that was going perfectly good on some advice someone gave me that i didn't even ask for..WHY!! why do people do that.. sorry i don't mean to go on and on but my head feels like it's going to explode.. how the F do you go from "can i aerate my tea indefinitely"? and get an answer that starts to tell you that you should water every day cuz "in their research" you can never over water 100% organic soil and proceeds to tell me that my microbes have to die before the nutrients are available to my plant.... WTF!!!!!! i was just gunna leave this shit alone... that's why i just IDK about that... i just wanted to drop it.. but no.. this is how people are after giving some royal shit advice they come back and try to defend that advice... i don't need to watch a dvd on microbes but i think you need to watch it again....

THANK YOU TO THOSE WITH GOOD ADVICE OR THAT BACKED UP GOOD ADVICE!!!!!! and for the bad advisers and those that think i'm a dick right now for writing this.. i see way too much bad advice and people are just glossing it over and either giving the right advice or just not responding to these bad advisers. we are all trying to grow the highest yielding highest THC content marijuana we can and when people are just allowed to throw out bad advice without being called out it's a problem for the whole rollitup community.. people are taking this bad advice and doing harm to their crops.... please people unless you have solid advice keep it to yourself. i'd rather get no response then the wrong response especially if your just offering advice off topic of the thread... ok i'm done.. going to smoke a bowl now.. should have smoked one before i post this but then i'd just get all nice and change my mind

 

[tekdc911]

some people think because they were able to wrap their head around the concept that you feed your soil not your plant that they are some kind on genius or something.

i couldnt comprehend feeding the soil so i stuck with feeding the plants
and add sugar for the soil micro's
when i say sugar light brown sugar

ok i want to hear how bad it is for my plant


then after your done telling me this flip the brown sugar box over look at the label
then look at the label of your bloom booster O.O Holy Shit batman there both cane sugar
i have chinchilla's
they eat hay mostly
and poop alot so i think the left over hay and poop mixture would make a good tea/compost
they have a stomach like a horse
wait does horse poo even work
see to confusing took me years to figure out i have to shake my nutes bottles before feeding
ill never understand how to mix shit with water and let it steep

 

[canefan]

and poop alot so i think the left over hay and poop mixture would make a good tea/compost
they have a stomach like a horse
wait does horse poo even work

Personally I love horse manure both in my soil and for my teas, but not fresh horse manure. I gather usually once a year, sometimes I am lucky and can get it right out of the pastures nearby other times I wander around the village in search. LOL, retired to Costa Rica and live in a very small village high up in the mountains where horses are still a major means of transportation. I was mostly a cow manure fan most of my life until about 20 years ago when I had many horses on my farm, now I pass on it unless I for some reason can't find the horse.
I dry my manure for a full year, I wouldn't call it composting as I spread it in a large area in the barn to let it dry and age. The next year it is ready for use without the chance of burning like fresh manure will. Fresh does well in my compost pile really helps to heat things up nicely.