Mad Hamish
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information overload... wow guys. Seriously.. WOW. Opening my little eyes here, big time. Thanks to all of you for sharing all these wonderful 'secrets'. I am blown away.
Total Noob using teas and I am a believer
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VTMi'kmaq
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holyshit mang! Wherre'd you find these guys? That's what I call myco's applications!
CoreyATX420
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only thing i ask though is is that just mycorazhae? because great white and things like that have bacterias such as trichodermas too and when i looked at that product all I saw sas mycor. howver i guess you could uhm " improvise" perhaps and make something of your own huh?
. Ive ordered some O BIO war , rute, nute , and foliar pack, very excited to let yall know how i like it now that im roocking dual 600 HPS's and can do alot more. Im also getting things for an experiment with BOKASHI. im sure yall will love this idea on this thread. Gro-kashi is the brand im after but theyrelocally marketed in socal and one place ive been trying to email all week. of anyone knows where to get it or has any BOKASHI tips im sure all of us organic heads would love it.
GandalfdaGreen
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I have some links that show us how to make and use Bokashi. I can't wait to hear about the stuff you bought. I think this is some awesome stuff. I'll be able to post some cool stuff up tomorrow afternoon. We'll learn about a cool sprout tea or two and the how and why.
CoreyATX420
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let me find it or if youre active right now and on the web you could search on youtube real quick. its a sprout tea as well. but its called " komas bean sauce" using bud candy, hygrozyme, tarantula , and pirahana. Im not big on AN nutrients , so im trying to break down the science of that tea and the ingredients inside and replicate it cheaper an more naturally. Hes a great grower , and his results do the talking and it doesnt kill his microbe web... but that dude has $ to spend , so idk if its just a convenience to just mix pour stir and brew or what for him but thats his method. id really like to see what youre talking about and some of the teas youre working on. I always love new ideas to try,. Im also experimenting with biocanna nutrients if you gandalf, or anyone else has input. MY goal now is to try every brand of nutrients and indoor gardening products I can . I have a few ideas for a line of my own in the far future.
CoreyATX420
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st0wandgrow
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I honestly don't know. Just throwing it out there. Tim (MM) is a real expert on soil microbiology, and he recommends this product when compared to Great White, Extreme Gardening, etc. The one that you purchased he did seem quite impressed with as well, so I think you made a good pick up.only thing i ask though is is that just mycorazhae? because great white and things like that have bacterias such as trichodermas too and when i looked at that product all I saw sas mycor. howver i guess you could uhm " improvise" perhaps and make something of your own huh?
Steelheader3430
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Hey gang, I gave the sick baby a light flush followed by some crushed egg shells and a pinch of epsom salt in about a half cup of water and the problem stopped progressing. I did lose a couple leaves though, no biggie. As for the white orbs I seen I think the pictures on the internet are miscategorized no bugs to be found. Tell me is the difference between these two ak48's examples of "phenotypes" I've been wondering what people are talking about. Been looking into this Bokashi thing seems really neat. 
Mad Hamish
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Teaming with Microbes... what a BADASS read. Really enjoying it a helluva lot. I will have to catch up with the rest of the conversation here a bit later. Still trying to suck it all in. The puzzle is falling together. EPIC.
CoreyATX420
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is the Lion King song " Circle of Life" playing in your head yet? thats when it all sinks in. let me find links and documents etc as its from late 70s early 80s i do believe. But i have some great info " I HOPE" on soil biology as well. hamish youll love that book. I read it a few years back when I switched to full organics and got medical.
Mad Hamish
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Bring it on, I am in full 'Sponge Mode' I even cut back on the toking very severely to do this study properly. I am going to recycle my living soils back into my garden, whereby improving the soil for my entire veggie patch and also around my fruit trees It's the permaculture way, start as close to home as you possibly can and extend it outwards, so starting INSIDE my house is quite the trip for me indeed.
The results I have been seeing amongst the organic heads really are speaking louder than a metal band on acid. EPIC stuff.
It's the permaculture way, start as close to home as you possibly can and extend it outwards, so starting INSIDE my house is quite the trip for me indeed. The results I have been seeing amongst the organic heads really are speaking louder than a metal band on acid. EPIC stuff.
GandalfdaGreen
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Better than that we won't even have to take the soil out of our containers for many, many grows. They grows will get better each time too. Just make a hole next to the old stem and plant. We are best to leave the roots too. Read this entire thread bro. Well worth it. I promise.
https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/583341-so-who-here-growing-true.html
https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/583341-so-who-here-growing-true.html
st0wandgrow
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Here's another book that I highly recommend if you haven't already read it. Very informative, imo .... and it's free. 
http://idc-america.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/One_Straw_Farming_Fukuoka.pdf
http://idc-america.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/One_Straw_Farming_Fukuoka.pdf
Mad Hamish
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Already a few pages in.. Rrog is such a lovable character the way he speaks is just beautiful. Thanks for this one.
GandalfdaGreen
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I tried to rep you st0w. Thank you so much. I have been wanting this. 
GandalfdaGreen
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I have a quote from Rrog that I want everyone to read and think about:
If we are starving off the benes by infusing our plants with bottled nutes, organic even, how can that be a good thing?
- We have to keep in mind that the soil microbes are an army of trillions. Their only mission is to support and defend the plant. If we add chemicals, that relationship is severely strained or gone, despite the presence of soil.
If we are starving off the benes by infusing our plants with bottled nutes, organic even, how can that be a good thing?
CoreyATX420
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if you have a biological kind of mindstate its even better! ALL OF THIS , has interested me in switching my major. Fuck Pharmacy school. I wanna grow organic plants. I think I want to reread teaming with microbes and jorges bible , as well as one straw evolution to refresh the brain. Never hurts to study old info . if anything only strengthening a synapse or two.
st0wandgrow
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That's a great point Gandalf ..... one that eluded me for a while. I couldn't resist the urge to tinker and add "nutes" to my my soil. They were organic, so what could it hurt? I failed to realize that by doing so I was forgoing the import symbiosis between the microbes and the plant. Unnecessarily intervening. My subsequent runs with just water and ACT's have been substantially better. I'm anticipating even better results as my soil ages.
Coot and others have suggested using coconut water, aloe juice, silica, Fulvic acid, etc as additives to the water schedule. I'm still on the fence over some of these things. I noticed no discernible difference between the plants that were fed these things, and the plants that got just water (and ACT's). I understand that as my soil ages it may interact with these additives differently, so I'm going to continue to play with it for a while.
st0wandgrow
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I think soil microbiology would be a fascinating field to study. If I could go back to school that would be my focus.