A tribute to Uncle Ben and the Almighty Leaf

[Uncle Ben]

I noticed you had to stake your branches. I've had the same "problem" and read that it may be due to high nitrogen during flower. Any insights?

Weak, skinny stems....a genetic phenotype thing. Has nothing to do with N during flowering. Where did you read that, here at RIU?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

oh and high N during flower is bad . . . .reduces THC content, not structural integrity

weak branches can be effected by adding usable amounts of silica to help plant cell walls, improving cell wall structure rigidity and strength, plant architecture and leaf correctness and as well as branches but i only use it in veg

silica also helps fight disease , droughts and hi amount of aluminum

 

[Dboi87]

Weak, skinny stems....a genetic phenotype thing. Has nothing to do with N during flowering. Where did you read that, here at RIU?

Lol of course

 

[Dboi87]

just remember once you have learned all UB has to teach you . . . .that their is a lot more

you cant have effceint photosynthesis without understanding your VPD, no matter how green your leaf is, which is important . . . .my whole heart-ed suggestion is take everything you learn here and research it, so you know the big picture dont listen to UB when he said dont use this or that research why . . . .if UB tells you that High N in flower is ok then research why . . .

What's VPD?

 

[Uncle Ben]

Used to think that foliar sprays work only if the stomata is open.....that that was the point for the entry of salts. Not true according to one professional source who has been doing this for 30 years selling and helping farmers from Canada to Mexico on every kind of plant material from soy to citrus. Salts are absorbed thru the cuticle, the epidermis. If you ever burned your leaves using foliar sprays, of any kind, it's because you toasted the leaf cuticle or epidermis. I have about 7 of his products. Owner is definately worth talking to. Just a warning, he is a pro and if you come off as a bozo you're gonna lose his interest and him.
http://www.seedcoat.com/seedcoat.html

Ask him what he thinks of chelates lol.

UB

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

vapor pressure deficit, is a relation of RH and the plants internal pressure

im sure UB will know more about it

but the less the difference between temp and humidity the more stomata are open making photosynthesis more efficient

cant have a working leaf without open stomata . . . .so its kinda pointless to learn about photosynthesis if you dont learn the big picture

cannon anon exchange of ec, is also very important . . . che lated non che lated . . . .

but dyna grow dont make a brochure on it so you may not learn about it here

here is a good read on VPD

http://www.just4growers.com/stream/temperature,-humidity-and-c02/vapor-pressure-deficit-the-hidden-force-on-your-plants.aspx

 

[Uncle Ben]

just remember once you have learned all UB has to teach you . . . .that their is a lot more

Like what? How to install a light mover....a air scrubber? A retard can do that.

. . . .if UB tells you that High N in flower is ok then research why . . .

You tell me why "UB tells you N during flowering is OK".

Gotta ask, why did you choose the brother of Charles Manson as your avatar? It's as creepy as your trolling.

UB

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Like what? How to install a light mover....a air scrubber? A retard can do that.



You tell me why "UB tells you N during flowering is OK".

Gotta ask, why did you choose the brother of Charles Manson as your avatar? It's as creepy as your trolling.

UB

Nitrogen in the flower period reduces THC . . do you not know?



so where do you stand grasshopper . .high N or not ?

and no my avatar is of sage francis . . . .but ad homenin away their buddy

tell us about how Kelp is bad for your plants and is a snake oil if ever sold as a supplment for plants

 

[Uncle Ben]

Nitrogen in the flower period reduces THC . . do you not know?

Aint buying it. It's the leaves' food production that produces it all including THC and if you induce leaf necrosis, premature leaf drop, with bloom foods.....you're a dummy. For most newbs they've allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the dozens and dozens of cannabis specific bloom food pushers and forum sucker bets thinking that it's bloom foods that produce "da hard buds". I and other experienced growers who have chosen foods with decent amounts of N know that's bullshit. Back up that crap with some bonafide research sourced by a non-partisan, university based firm.

If you don't have a good and healthy root and foliage mass going into the flowering response AND harvest, you will have missed the full potential of your plant material.

Wean yourself from the label teats.

UB

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Aint buying it. It's the leaves' food production that produces it all including THC and if you induce leaf necrosis, premature leaf drop, with bloom foods.....you're a dummy. For most newbs they've allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the dozens and dozens of cannabis specific bloom food pushers and forum sucker bets thinking that it's bloom foods that produce "da hard buds". I and other experienced growers who have chosen foods with decent amounts of N know that's bullshit.

Wean yourself from the label teats.

If you don't have a good and healthy root and foliage mass going into the flowering response AND harvest, you will have missed the full potential of your plant material.

UB

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"These experiments show that the THC content of leaves decreases with increasing N"

 

[Uncle Ben]

For starts, can't read the fine print. I believe that was a hemp study, was it not? It's been discussed (and dissed) before.

You're growing hemp for fiber production. We're talking cannabis here. It's a no brainer that based on the testing....if you have more fiber (cellulose) you're gonna have less of the other stuff, in this case, THC. The test is being done to increase fiber and decrease THC for marketing and litigious purposes, is it not?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

For starts, can't read the fine print. I believe that was a hemp study, was it not? It's been discussed (and dissed) before.

You're growing hemp for fiber production. We're talking cannabis here.

so what does this have to do with, increased N and THC decreasing . . .nice fallacy

an informal one at that

that study is for Hemp, so it cant be relative to POT

are you advocating that MJ is a special plant that is effected differently then other plants

cuase that would lend credence to the MJ specific nutrients game you hate so much

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

maybe i shoudl take some low quality pictures of bud thats all airy and leafy like yours with flash on to make it seem like my plants have super shiny THC glands and then . .maybe then i can get a wheelbarrow full of leaf to impress you with

notice the nice green lush leafs . .and the multi-tude of completely visible and pote3nt trichs . . . unlike your shimmery plant

you can see my trichs are large and numerous




oh and this is at week 4 of a 8-9 week plant . . . . .i test strains from seed . . . no predetermined knowledge of outcome . . . . and i dont have to lie about my genetics , they speak for themselves

"junlge sativa" fucking epic

if you ever feel like growing out a real sativa i got abuddy with legit sativas . . . his he goes by 4dragons . . .and works closely with

SNOW who is renound for working old school sativas . . vs your heroes Dutch breeders (who most all of the industry regarded as the

worst place to get seeds) and arjan of greenhouse the biggest flavour flav front man who does nothing since . . . the thrid wheel

oh wait he stole all of nice guys original mothers and made his own company with it . . thats right . . .watered down BS

 

[Uncle Ben]

so what does this have to do with, increased N and THC decreasing . . .nice fallacy

an informal one at that

that study is for Hemp, so it cant be relative to POT

are you advocating that MJ is a special plant that is effected differently then other plants

cuase that would lend credence to the MJ specific nutrients game you hate so much

Are you advocating the loss of leaves, the very unit that produces bud and your holy of holies - THC?

Look, you aint got a lab to verify anything of value in this discussion. That study you parroted from months ago is about hemp. Personal anecdotal evidence from friends who get my pot and love it says my drills are working just fine. They have no complaints and they will buy everything I can grow, pre-sold.

UB

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

ahaha i post credible info and this is what you get . . .word games

i advocate growing dank, i dont knwo what you advocate . . but it aint growing dank


aka why you use shitty photos and flash to show people your outcome of your system . . and they look like shit man . .

you ignore any info that goes against what you preach, go on and tel lus how kelp is a snake oil . . . .tool for the horticulturist

farmers used it for thousands of years but UB know better . . . . just like UB invents topping techniques

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

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[Samwell Seed Well]

you got nothing but your subjective opinion . . .. . . and that means nothing in the face of experience and outcomes . . . .. . aka life

go on about your lab . . . . .. .

sativa/indica . . you choose what you grow . .and you choose how to describe it . . . .if what you got is lacking which it def look like it . . get it tested . . . .show us up

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

so to go on about healthy plant structures . .having the correct amount of silica in your system is paramount to plant health and rigidity

UB will tell you you havent been foliage spraying with Dyna foliage enough...just like the CANNA reps tell me to use more boost(which i dont and i cut it a long time ago) . but thats becuase they work for the companies they push