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GandalfdaGreen

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I was reading TwM and was hoping that I am correct in connecting the bacterial "slime" and exudates with soil health. The bacterial exudates help bind soil components together thus is a benchmark for soil health being the soil "clumping" in our hands. If we have a "micro genocide" by disrupting these bacteria we are destroying our soil's health and composition.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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ok this makes a little more sense. thank you rrog. ive been reading over your other post on organic living soil. you have lots of valuable knowledge, thanks for clearing that up for me:)


View attachment 2795434View attachment 2795435 and just to show a few pieces from the heady collection. i guess you an say the starwars trilogy had its effect on me.

That is some sweet glass bro. I love them. Yoda kicks ass. Where is Vader?
 

Rrog

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I was reading TwM and was hoping that I am correct in connecting the bacterial "slime" and exudates with soil health. The bacterial exudates help bind soil components together thus is a benchmark for soil health being the soil "clumping" in our hands. If we have a "micro genocide" by disrupting these bacteria we are destroying our soil's health and composition.
Fungus also. Both contribute to texture and binding. The system is built nicely after 1 generation. If you leave the system alone, it won't have to be completely rebuilt for the next plant.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Hear that guys. We can create a soil that we can continue to reuse and it gets better each run. My goal is to cut a plant, leave the root mass, plant a sprout or clone, and move along. That's where I am heading. It's easier with very nice results.
 

CoreyATX420

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That is some sweet glass bro. I love them. Yoda kicks ass. Where is Vader?
you read my mind! thats how i felt when I got it :) i talked to the artist and would just need to drop a little money then he could make it happen. i have a dellene peralta storm trooper dome as well but it wont fit the recycler. thanks man! way more where that came from. havent bought any glass for a couple months but its been 3 years collecting.


may bring it up here. do you gandalf or anyone else look at maximum yield magizines website or the actual magazine? i feel for the group of people here it is more than perfect material for organic gardening info. I often get lost with all the great tips and resources I find there.
 

VTMi'kmaq

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yep lovin the starwars glass for sure! I had the wife make a tea up two days ago, funny thing it has a sweet little tinge of smelly idk how to describe this smell! Does this mean its kinda past its best time to use ya think?
 

GandalfdaGreen

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I just read through the section about the fugal exudates also. The bacterial, fungal, and earthworm exudates contain polysaccharides, sticky carbs that bind minerals and humic particles together. These aggregates impart charges to pore spaces within the soil allowing for these spaces to hold water and soluable nutrients which are recycled slowly to plants. How is killing these amazing creatures good in anyway?
 

Rrog

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We here about the Cation Exchange (CEC) but I imagine these exudate compounds are part of the vague "organic matter" that assists with Anion Exchange Capacity. Right alongside fresh biochar.

Without these things, your N is gonna leave a lot more quickly, which sets someone up for a bottled fert.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Biochar is in my next mix for sure. Without question. CEC. Yes. The higher the CEC of your soil the more nutrients the soil holds. The higher the CEC the more fertile a soil is. The area where the plant roots and the soil exchanges cations are called cation exchange sites. The more sites the more exchange. I won't go into the chemistry and all, but think of it as a place where "nutrients are exchanged". These areas physically exist in well made soils.
 

Rrog

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I hope it's OK that I hijack your thread and waste everyone's time while I tell them I'm vaping Super Silver Haze In a Silver Surfer Vape. Try saying that 1X fast...
 

GandalfdaGreen

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There is no highjacking here. Say anything at anytime. I love SSH. One of the best strains ever. Vape away in the Silver Surfer my friend.
 

CoreyATX420

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Nice! I have my Charity OG going , as well as 2 more sinmints again. As i was telling you charity was a pretty color even as a seedling, but im gonna wait a few days for a few sets of leaves before Showing off pics unless someone wants them. congrat's Gandalf!
 

Mad Hamish

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Guys, are you conspiring to make my head explode with info here?! LOL... I am starting to have trouble keeping up seriously ;)

Anyhow I think I now have a basic handle on this, and here is how I see it:

The plant is in control. The plant will attract what it needs to it, all we can do is make sure it will be around. The plant will then control soil pH, aeration, chelation, and everything else as long as we do not ourselves put it out of balance. A well-prepared soil, therefore, will have the same plant in it more than once OR for a long time. Root exudates will control levels of fungi and bacteria etc...

This is the basic story behind microbrial gardening. It is the most basic level to which I could break it down. So once we have innoculated our soils and as long as we keep providing composted material, microbial life will thrive. In an ideal situation the soil will need very little amendment. As long as we have patience for this. If we want to let the natural process be what grows our plants, we have to be happy with a few less than perfect results in the first run seeing as reefer is an an annual, and be patient to allow the first grow to build the soil structure to what it should be, then plant the next run in the same substrate. At this point odds are everything will be absolutely perfect. Soil shall be self- pH'd and buffered from disease etc. Providing we do not cause damage to the rhizosphere that is.

Before this point is where I will need the dolomite lime in my soil to take care of the pH. As the lime is used up, the life in the soil will take over it's job. So technically, just top-dressing with some compost should be sufficient from the point that my ecology is flourishing, all I need to do then is feed the microbes, really.

Any flaws apparent in my thinking there? I'd like to get the principles jacked before playing with the recipes.

I can no longer look at the world around me in the same way. Teaming With Microbes has changed me down to my core. I now worry about the waste water from my hydro system knowing what it does and having learned about mobile elements v/s immobile nutrients. I feel like a mass-murderer for having killed a few gazillion life-forms using salt-based ferts. And I feel like farming as a rule is responsible more for mass genocide of our essential partners living in the soil than it is responsible for producing food for humans.

My interest in the topic stretches far beyond reefer. I have never been so taken by anything in my life. I am going to be quite the 'microbial gardening' activist. I am already preparing to make my own innoculants using the Lacto B and indigenous micro-organisms in the 50/50 mix style. The rice is fermenting quite happily.

Guess what EVERYBODY I KNOW is getting fro Christmas :)
 

Mad Hamish

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I hope it's OK that I hijack your thread and waste everyone's time while I tell them I'm vaping Super Silver Haze In a Silver Surfer Vape. Try saying that 1X fast...
Very nice to have you on this thread, Rrog. It is a bunch of incredibly good guys hanging out here, respectful, kind, helpful, well-mannered and just as awesome as can be. Everybody treats everybody else like a friend, going off-topic happens and is always enjoyed especially when it comes to smoking reefer LOL...
 

CoreyATX420

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Ive gotta say my TGA plushberry is covered already and have kind of a sour strawbery jam smell. so intriguing . in TGA super soil . lights come on at 7 pm so ill get back to yall then with those. been going gopro crazy. might snap some tang power pics for s and gs . 32 inches with 4 tops in a 3 gallon smart pot with less than 30 day veg. so glad i topped. so glad. if anyones super interested the tangerine power and auto blue cheese are over in indoor growing. why does sub get so much hate ? im pleased so far... he seems a little intense but thats all to me .
 
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