Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

[Trousers]

it has less to do with my own organic diet and my belief( yup a belief)

If your diet is really organic, then you do not have to worry about GMO in your food.

that a product that is GM should be marketed as such . . not because its a risk, but because it is different . .

That is not a logical reason or enough to make the FDA change their rules.

i know it sounds weird . ..

Yes it is weird and exactly why labeling is not mandatory.

reasonable labels vs . . . zero calories . . or this product may cuase munchies . . . its just how i feel . . . . .

Your feeling do not matter in a an argument like this.
Did you read the labeling rules yet?
I haven't either.

im not afraid of GMO my concerns are not for safety but for consumer transparency . . ..

Then you are barking up the wrong tree. If GMO is not a safety issue, then no label is needed.

GMO is different from non . .

How so?

some one owns its genetics . .no one owns natural seed genetics . . . their is no patent

are we changing the topic now?

 

[Trousers]

Sammy testifies to the head of the FDA

SS-Ms. Hamburg, I have a feeling about GMO. I would like it labled.

Ms. Hamburg: You want us to label a food because you have a feeling?

SS- Yes, it is weird.

Ms. Hamburg: ??

SS: Im not afraid of GMO my concerns are not for safety but for consumer transparency.

Ms. Hamburg: So you do not think GMO products are unsafe, yet you want a label? Why?

SS: We've covered this, I have a feeling and it is weird.

Ms. Hamburg: The police are here. In the future, please stay out of my kitchen.

SS: You dumb cunt.

 

[Harrekin]

Re-education is a dirty Commie/Facist word...

Don't be either of the above, or I'll repeatedly call you it.

Repeatedly.

 

[ChesusRice]

I believe greenhouse grown vegtables are hazardous. I think there should be labels saying if a vegtable is grown in a greenhouse. I have a lot of studies done by the aromatherapy institute to back me up. Becuase these crops are not grown outside they are unhappy and that depression can spread to the people who consume these greenhouse vegtables.

 

[DNAprotection]

I believe greenhouse grown vegtables are hazardous. I think there should be labels saying if a vegtable is grown in a greenhouse. I have a lot of studies done by the aromatherapy institute to back me up. Becuase these crops are not grown outside they are unhappy and that depression can spread to the people who consume these greenhouse vegtables.

did you try loving whispers of endearment? Mozart maybe?
wait a second, is this more Custer logic?
reported!

goldencheesrice please make amends...

An apology is a statement of remorse that you make when you've done something wrong. It can be difficult to apologize, but it can do a lot to heal relationships and rebuild trust. Follow these steps when you make an apology:
Express remorse.
Admit responsibility.
Promise that it won't happen again.
Don't offer excuses when you apologize. Otherwise, you'll sound as if you're trying to shift blame away from yourself and on to someone or something else.

 

[Dr Kynes]

GMO and non GMO is like saying a vaccinated human is fundamentally different to an unvaccinated human.

There is no difference to how those people are, except one is virtually immune to a type of disease and the other isn't.

Same with roundup ready crops, they just have an immunity to a specific herbicide.

Functionally as a food they are exactly the same with no risks, peer reviewed studies confirm this.

Don't all foods have to list their ingredients anyways? If it contains maize (GM or not) and the ingredients list maize...what's the difference?

Either way, we have labelling, noone cares about it. In the 90's we'd a brief populist "say no to GM" thing but it fizzled out as quickly as it came about.

i do personally have concerns over the BT food crops.

BT is relatively benign, has a short duration and degrades quickly when used as a spray, but if it is an integral part of the plant the eater would be steadily dosed with the stuff, especially in staple crops like corn or wheat.

BT is practically harmless to people and animals when used as a spray, but if consumed directly it can be quite toxic.

likewise, a spray made from tomatoe leaves can keep deer from nibbling your crops, and is harmless to people, but eating things which contain the tomatoe plant's natural toxin can be deadly.

 

[Someacdude]

i do personally have concerns over the BT food crops.

BT is relatively benign, has a short duration and degrades quickly when used as a spray, but if it is an integral part of the plant the eater would be steadily dosed with the stuff, especially in staple crops like corn or wheat.

BT is practically harmless to people and animals when used as a spray, but if consumed directly it can be quite toxic.

likewise, a spray made from tomatoe leaves can keep deer from nibbling your crops, and is harmless to people, but eating things which contain the tomatoe plant's natural toxin can be deadly.

Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard, do you really expect us to even waste our time reading the whole thing?

 

[Doer]

i do personally have concerns over the BT food crops.

BT is relatively benign, has a short duration and degrades quickly when used as a spray, but if it is an integral part of the plant the eater would be steadily dosed with the stuff, especially in staple crops like corn or wheat.

BT is practically harmless to people and animals when used as a spray, but if consumed directly it can be quite toxic.

likewise, a spray made from tomatoe leaves can keep deer from nibbling your crops, and is harmless to people, but eating things which contain the tomatoe plant's natural toxin can be deadly.

It isn't all that long or difficult to understand. Why don't you re-post again when you reply?

 

[Dr Kynes]

Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard, do you really expect us to even waste our time reading the whole thing?

so, four short sentences is too long for you to handle, you must have been a superstar in school.

eat a dick.

 

[Harrekin]

i do personally have concerns over the BT food crops.

BT is relatively benign, has a short duration and degrades quickly when used as a spray, but if it is an integral part of the plant the eater would be steadily dosed with the stuff, especially in staple crops like corn or wheat.

BT is practically harmless to people and animals when used as a spray, but if consumed directly it can be quite toxic.

likewise, a spray made from tomatoe leaves can keep deer from nibbling your crops, and is harmless to people, but eating things which contain the tomatoe plant's natural toxin can be deadly.

Well I'll agree with you on that point, a plant that produces a toxin "naturally" would need far more serious review than a plant with a gene sequence to simply resist a herbicide.

Im not saying I agree with ALL GMO's being used for human food supplies, but these Luddite fools propose an end to all genetic engineering which I personally find offensive to human advancement.

 

[Someacdude]

so, four short sentences is too long for you to handle, you must have been a superstar in school.

eat a dick.

Its wasnt the length it was the content, maybe you need to really go to med school, i would start out with a decent first aid class, them maybe work your way up to male masseuse ,happy ending optional, then maybe branch out to nails etc, its going to be a long road since you are already as smart as your ever going to get, after all,,,,,,,,,,,,,you already know it all, pop your pimples and let the grown ups talk junior.

 

[Doer]

Its wasnt the length it was the content, maybe you need to really go to med school, i would start out with a decent first aid class, them maybe work your way up to male masseuse ,happy ending optional, then maybe branch out to nails etc, its going to be a long road since you are already as smart as your ever going to get, after all,,,,,,,,,,,,,you already know it all, pop your pimples and let the grown ups talk junior.

Why do you just shut the fuck up while you are ahead? I think you also fear being seen as gay.

Content was fine and your shit does indeed, stink. You see this as grown up talk. It is juvenile.

 

[Someacdude]

Why do you just shut the fuck up while you are ahead? I think you also fear being seen as gay.

Content was fine and your shit does indeed, stink. You see this as grown up talk. It is juvenile.

Well if you want to get in the act i can talk stupid to you too, im not the one who started cursing at people and calling them names, why dont you and dr dickhead shut up, while your at it, give the gerbil some air, you ass holes say whatever you want and talk to people who disagree with your fucked up viewpoint, you two need to grow up, so far none of you have had a decent reply, why BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING, .
Really sad, you two are indeed stupid, since you can neither defend your opinion nor express yourself in a mature manner, dont blame me, you zeros started this not me, for awhile i thought it was a contest to see who could say the stupidest things, ok, you win, really nice doer, you are no different than the rest. And you people call other liberals, you are the intollerant ones, you guys need to get a life, stop trolling and maybe get laid every once in awhile, not by your hand.

 

[Doer]

Well if you want to get in the act i can talk stupid to you too, im not the one who started cursing at people and calling them names, why dont you and dr dickhead shut up, while your at it, give the gerbil some air, you ass holes say whatever you want and talk to people who disagree with your fucked up viewpoint, you two need to grow up, so far none of you have had a decent reply, why BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING, .
Really sad, you two are indeed stupid, since you can neither defend your opinion nor express yourself in a mature manner, dont blame me, you zeros started this not me, for awhile i thought it was a contest to see who could say the stupidest things, ok, you win, really nice doer, you are no different than the rest. And you people call other liberals, you are the intollerant ones, you guys need to get a life, stop trolling and maybe get laid every once in awhile, not by your hand.

You have fat mouth and do not like to be opposed. You are content free. You continue to say the MOST stupid things. Like now.

All I am taking about is your pure bullshit and crap mouthing another member. And you are a hiding little fist shaking worm to me. You are just a fly to swat when you are like this. And happily you are hardly ever like this. Buck up.

I never said I was tolerate. I will not be tolerant of anyone when they get like this. Go over to T & T or Spirit Sex, for that.

But, face to face?....well, as I said. You hide. Remember that.

 

[Harrekin]

Its wasnt the length it was the content, maybe you need to really go to med school, i would start out with a decent first aid class, them maybe work your way up to male masseuse ,happy ending optional, then maybe branch out to nails etc, its going to be a long road since you are already as smart as your ever going to get, after all,,,,,,,,,,,,,you already know it all, pop your pimples and let the grown ups talk junior.

What side are you even on, dumbass?

Kynes is pro-GM, just not pro-poisoning people.

If a plant is designed to produce the BT toxin I believe the effects are systemic...in other words all tissues contain certain levels of the BT toxin (which is an insecticide, distinct from herbicides like Roundup btw).

Ingesting a plant that produces a toxin is concerning and definitely warrants more substantial research than other non-toxin producing crops.

 

[DNAprotection]

if space head bungles, it probably only hurts space head...so shine on harvest moon...
yet if genetic engineering bungles we might all end up screaming 'help me mr wizard'...therefor
the cautionary approach is extremely warranted imo...

[video=youtube;f4tD0_GjEtY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4tD0_GjEtY[/video]

 

[Doer]

good...sounds like the na-nammy-boo-boo is all ya got left. And that's because you feel the cliff edge with your heels.

It's OK...shhh....shuuushh. OK. Pretend you are a leaf in the wind.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Its wasnt the length it was the content, maybe you need to really go to med school, i would start out with a decent first aid class, them maybe work your way up to male masseuse ,happy ending optional, then maybe branch out to nails etc, its going to be a long road since you are already as smart as your ever going to get, after all,,,,,,,,,,,,,you already know it all, pop your pimples and let the grown ups talk junior.

the "content" of my statement was an expression of my poersonal concerns over BT crops, anda 100% factual representation of the related details.

BT spray is generally regarded as safe for use on foods even up to the week of harvest, but the stuff is harmful if ingested directly, thus logically a plant which produces significant quantities of BT is suspect in my personal opinion.

meanwhile, unripe tomatoes, and tomatoe foliage contain large quantities of a toxin (called Tomatiine) which has caused deaths among persons foolish enough to ignore it's strongly bitter flavour.

curiously tomatoe greens are used as a seasoning in some recipies but only in tiny quantities.

if you believe tomatine is fictional then i encourage you to eat a big bowl of tomatoe leaves.

so, what part of this statement is lacking in "content", you blithering dolt?

meanwhile you should continue to insist that comfrey is banned, cuz thats fucking hilarious.

 

[Dr Kynes]

What side are you even on, dumbass?

Kynes is pro-GM, just not pro-poisoning people.

If a plant is designed to produce the BT toxin I believe the effects are systemic...in other words all tissues contain certain levels of the BT toxin (which is an insecticide, distinct from herbicides like Roundup btw).

Ingesting a plant that produces a toxin is concerning and definitely warrants more substantial research than other non-toxin producing crops.

actually im GMO agnostic, i think the research and development is super important, but any "release" (thats Ag speak for allowing farmers to plant it, not broadcasting the seeds over national forests, prairies of the tropical jungles) should be preceded by extensive study, and a cost/benefit analysis by government regulators, the producing company, and the individual farmer who may choose to plant that cultivar, or any other.

the dipple-dink's previous ignorant comments regarding farmers being "forced" to plant GMO crops (or any other) is patently false, his repeated insistence that comfrey is "Illegal" and his obvious lack of even the basic science behind agricultural issues marks him as a BEEF HEAD with many assumptions but no informed opinions on the matter at hand.

honestly his witless ramblings are even less informed than DNAprotection's copy/paste idiocy.

 

[Someacdude]

This thread is so much better with those two phucks on ignore, lifes to short to waste it on people who curse at you and call you names etc simply because you hold a different opinion, my apologies to all the good people out there,carry on.