N.Y.C. Topdawg grow and more to come.

Alright my seedlings are in the icu but should be back in shape soon kind of embarrassed to show pics but ill get them up.

Going to mix up fox farm happy frog and ocean forest with coco and some other additions and try doing organics for a bit.
 
Also i would like to add and let everyone know that my grow partner will be throwing up his updates in here which im excited to see with the genetics we have Running going to be alot of stank haha.
 

F.M.I.L.Y

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Alright my seedlings are in the icu but should be back in shape soon kind of embarrassed to show pics but ill get them up.

Going to mix up fox farm happy frog and ocean forest with coco and some other additions and try doing organics for a bit.
What happened to them? Hope they are salvageable, although this plant we grow is a resilient mofo! Hope they make it!
 

greenghost420

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they dont look that bad! i noticed solo cups suck for seeding stage. im about to switch to coco fiber cups and see how those do
 
they dont look that bad! i noticed solo cups suck for seeding stage. im about to switch to coco fiber cups and see how those do
Those are not bad at all. I use party cups or egg crate for seedlings.
I've always used party cups for seedlings it works out good for me i just see some seedlings lacking growth that others from the same pack are showing. I gave them a weak veg solution and imma see if i can get them in bigger homes in a couple of days.
 

Mad Hamish

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Alright my seedlings are in the icu but should be back in shape soon kind of embarrassed to show pics but ill get them up.

Going to mix up fox farm happy frog and ocean forest with coco and some other additions and try doing organics for a bit.
WBW, you know how to culture your own Lacto B? It helps with the coco seedlings as it controls all the ammonia created by the coco's natural slow composting process, and increases overall health by helping your mycos get the best food in the best form possible. Since using it I have had the most RAD looking seedlings, I will nip off to the tent tonight and get you pics of them now, but this is them at day 5 after germination, coco was Lacto B innoculated, with mycos and some forest microbes too:





This girl was YELLOW the day before this picture. A quick transplant and innoc with Lacto B and other benes, and 24 hours later:



If you don't yet know how to culture your own let me know I'll PM you full instructions, easy as pie and takes 5 to 14 days...
 

Mad Hamish

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Mh i have no idea and would appreciate any tips you have on this thank you
No worries bro, decided to post it on your thread so everybody can benefit:

First off, Lacto Bacillii is nature's workhorse bacteria and the grower's best friend. Pretty much all the nasty shit is what this little germ helps us with, most significant is turning ammonia and other forms of nitrogen into odour-free and safe nitrates for out plants. As I mentioned it also aides your beneficial fungi, both in rhizosphere (around roots) as well as sprayed on the leaves, it makes HEALTHY plants, FAST.

How to harvest some: Get some brown rice, fill a bowl about 1/4 with rice and top up with water leaving a VERY CRUCIAL air-gap of around 1/3rd depth of the bowl, cover with a lid but LEAVE A GAP open. Leave in a cool place no higher than about 2 feet off the ground, this is where most of these microbes are living.

At 25 degrees, it will take 3-5 days before your 'rice water' goes a bit milky in colour, with bits of fibre floating in it. It might have a bad smell too trust me on that, but this is good, it means your rice water is now microbe-rich. Next step is to isolate and culture the Lacto Bacillii.

Strain the rice-water, and add to a volume of milk 10 times to 20 times the volume of the rice water. Within 2 days you will notice 'curds' in the milk, and at a maximum of 7 days your curds will be floating on top of a yellow liquid. This yellow liquid is your PURE Lacto B culture in liquid form. Once again, try not to seal the milk completely while culturing.

EDIT: The white globs of protein and fat that curd together can either be discarded completely, or added to your normal compost heap. Just strain the yellow liquid off. If a few spots of white curd come along, this is no problem really.

Next step is to ensure the bacteria survive in culture form and keep multiplying, mix your yellow Lacto B SERUM to an equal part sugar-water. RAW UNREFINED sugar only, no bleached white sugar. Sugar Water should be mixed one part sugar to 3 parts water or even stronger.

Mix your PURE Serum with your sugar-water, and you have completed all steps. Keep this mix at 25 degrees C (77F) max, or store in fridge.

For application, mix one part dilute serum to 20 parts water, and spray on leaves and topsoil. You can add some to your regular watering schedule in the same amounts, one part to 20. If going organic, a single innoculation will do, when going salt-based nutes add it with every pure watering. It does NOT burn nor tamper with your EC much. You cannot spray too much on your leaves, if you ever foliar-feed this is the best thing you can do for your plants. It really helps them 'digest' it all very nicely.

In combination with mycos like 'Great White' I think it is called, you will not believe your eyes. Trust me, do an A/B comparison on plants that have Lacto Bacillii treatments to ones that don't ;)

Coco can be a real bitch. Lacto B is our ally with coco growing. And even better when using True Living Soil :)

All the best, this is a cheap amendment I feel all of us as growers can benefit from. And you might notice a huge reduction in bad moulds and other fungal diseases too, less mites, less aphids, and a more rapid response to changes in feed...
 

Mad Hamish

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Very nice info there. So as long as its brown rice it should work?
Ill pick some up today because i know i don't have none.
Far as the rice goes even white rice will work perfectly, it just takes longer thanks to the bleach in it, that's all. The key here is 'starch' really, microbe-food ;)
 

Growingforpeace

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Those seedlings dont look to shabby! Everything looks good as usual. Cant wait to see the buds on the topdawgs. Thanks for the info Mad Hamish!
 

schuylaar

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Thanks for the kid words I guess I was expecting more from them being they did sprout 2 weeks ago
i'm convinced the more you grow, the more you expect from them and they are all different..when i held my first bag seed and thought "what if"..a google search and trip to the hydro store and that "what if" became reality in that i could grow my own.."me" a girl..couldn't believe i could REALLY grown my own and laughing all the while people around me looking for someone to buy from..and i had my own and was happy..but then came..as i became more involved going from 400W to 1400W..going from bag to beans with genetics..LST'ing..plant stands..for yield..liquids, solubles..3gal..no 5 gal..no 7 gal..20 gal..roots, roots and more roots..ahhhhh, the expectation of it all..

sometimes i wonder what happened to that girl who was happy with bagseed and a few zips of her own..
 
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