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F.M.I.L.Y

F.M.I.L.Y

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Mad Hamish said:
No worries bro, decided to post it on your thread so everybody can benefit:

First off, Lacto Bacillii is nature's workhorse bacteria and the grower's best friend. Pretty much all the nasty shit is what this little germ helps us with, most significant is turning ammonia and other forms of nitrogen into odour-free and safe nitrates for out plants. As I mentioned it also aides your beneficial fungi, both in rhizosphere (around roots) as well as sprayed on the leaves, it makes HEALTHY plants, FAST.

How to harvest some: Get some brown rice, fill a bowl about 1/4 with rice and top up with water leaving a VERY CRUCIAL air-gap of around 1/3rd depth of the bowl, cover with a lid but LEAVE A GAP open. Leave in a cool place no higher than about 2 feet off the ground, this is where most of these microbes are living.

At 25 degrees, it will take 3-5 days before your 'rice water' goes a bit milky in colour, with bits of fibre floating in it. It might have a bad smell too trust me on that, but this is good, it means your rice water is now microbe-rich. Next step is to isolate and culture the Lacto Bacillii.

Strain the rice-water, and add to a volume of milk 10 times to 20 times the volume of the rice water. Within 2 days you will notice 'curds' in the milk, and at a maximum of 7 days your curds will be floating on top of a yellow liquid. This yellow liquid is your PURE Lacto B culture in liquid form. Once again, try not to seal the milk completely while culturing.

EDIT: The white globs of protein and fat that curd together can either be discarded completely, or added to your normal compost heap. Just strain the yellow liquid off. If a few spots of white curd come along, this is no problem really.

Next step is to ensure the bacteria survive in culture form and keep multiplying, mix your yellow Lacto B SERUM to an equal part sugar-water. RAW UNREFINED sugar only, no bleached white sugar. Sugar Water should be mixed one part sugar to 3 parts water or even stronger.

Mix your PURE Serum with your sugar-water, and you have completed all steps. Keep this mix at 25 degrees C (77F) max, or store in fridge.

For application, mix one part dilute serum to 20 parts water, and spray on leaves and topsoil. You can add some to your regular watering schedule in the same amounts, one part to 20. If going organic, a single innoculation will do, when going salt-based nutes add it with every pure watering. It does NOT burn nor tamper with your EC much. You cannot spray too much on your leaves, if you ever foliar-feed this is the best thing you can do for your plants. It really helps them 'digest' it all very nicely.

In combination with mycos like 'Great White' I think it is called, you will not believe your eyes. Trust me, do an A/B comparison on plants that have Lacto Bacillii treatments to ones that don't ;)

Coco can be a real bitch. Lacto B is our ally with coco growing. And even better when using True Living Soil :)

All the best, this is a cheap amendment I feel all of us as growers can benefit from. And you might notice a huge reduction in bad moulds and other fungal diseases too, less mites, less aphids, and a more rapid response to changes in feed...
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Excellent write MH, thanks for sharing your knowledge!!! I love learning

Peace
FM
 
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schuylaar

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just to show you wyte #1 is CC GSC short tail 8/12 and look how small she is for 1 month old..ONE MONTH!!!!..#2, #3 and #4 are BB BC all 2 weeks old:


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Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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As promised, the results of my treatment as follows, this was at 5 days:



And now at 9 days, bearing in mind they are about to get their FIRST feed as they are showing a huge hunger:



That's Coco and Lacto B ONLY. I forgot to add the mycos. Like I said, NO feeds yet, I will give them some this evening as I water the mycos in.

But check this out, Las Vegas Bubba Kush about 7 or 8 days ago, freshly transplanted:



Tonight she looks like this:



It's the Lacto B and compost tea that does this to a plant that fast :) I am a total organic convert now. The results speak for themselves :)
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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wyteberrywidow said:
I dont know but its looking like i will be using teas and other organic adds myself. From what im seeing plants love
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Its a game changer that's for sure mate. The living soil is as fast as hydro! I'll go look for some links to come share with you guys, I am a total believer and can only wish the same gorgeous plants for everybody, once you click onto it its easy as pie too. And much easier on the pocket! My old nute budget is now my bean budget :)
 
wyteberrywidow

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I like the sound of all that:). Fresh has been telling me to start brewing teas and with what im hearing and seeing it's a must for me since i never tried it. The plants you just showed with the lacto b treatment just exploded that's what I like to see.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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OK so I thought about what would be most useful, and I guess the best way is to follow somebody else doing it from Noob to Experienced. OK so Gandalf is no noob to growing, but this thread follows his experience with teas from the beginning pretty much, so it's a great springboard into it for experienced growers like yourself. The nice thing is how he keeps posting the most useful recipes as it goes along, and it really is a stellar bunch of people hanging out there too:

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/676040-total-noob-using-teas-i.html

Then there's Rrog's thread, it's become bit of a monster thread but would b emy go-to place for any questions, it's a massive group of serious Organic heads and a KILLER good vibe, extremely helpful and passionate and supportive group of guys:

https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/583341-so-who-here-growing-true.html


This last link is a .pdf for the book Teaming With Microbes. ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL READING! It will not take too long, I went over the most essential in less than a day in spare time. It is the real eye-opener, glorious explanations of the soil food web and gives us a handle on what is happening in there, why salt-based ferts are not nearly as good, mobile vs immobile elements, etc. It is a good idea to arm yourself with this knowledge before looking at a tea recipe or doing a soil cook, as it will give you the keys to understanding why each recipe is good, why to wait, why bubbling as opposed to boiling etc:

http://ge.tt/9LYCbnC/v/1

These were the SOLE RESOURCES I used to get my plants growing like they're on some kind of steroids. Bit of a journey, but worth every single step. And you guys get PERFECT soils for sale on the commercial market, unlike over here where I had to cook my first one for close on 6 weeks to get to see what it does. Fox Farm sounds like a great company to support, over here our soils are waaaaaay too sterile if it comes in a bag :/
 
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schuylaar

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greenghost420 said:
i never said i failed. im actually doing good...you trolling me or what...seriously?:lol:




  • i just want to improve on what im doing at all times...​

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you said:

greenghost420 said:
they dont look that bad! i noticed solo cups suck for seeding stage. im about to switch to coco fiber cups and see how those do
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GG - i don't troll my friends, especially you:hug:..i do fuck with them from time to time:mrgreen:..re-phrase "party cup fail"..
 
F.M.I.L.Y

F.M.I.L.Y

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Mad Hamish said:
OK so I thought about what would be most useful, and I guess the best way is to follow somebody else doing it from Noob to Experienced. OK so Gandalf is no noob to growing, but this thread follows his experience with teas from the beginning pretty much, so it's a great springboard into it for experienced growers like yourself. The nice thing is how he keeps posting the most useful recipes as it goes along, and it really is a stellar bunch of people hanging out there too:

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/676040-total-noob-using-teas-i.html

Then there's Rrog's thread, it's become bit of a monster thread but would b emy go-to place for any questions, it's a massive group of serious Organic heads and a KILLER good vibe, extremely helpful and passionate and supportive group of guys:

https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/583341-so-who-here-growing-true.html


This last link is a .pdf for the book Teaming With Microbes. ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL READING! It will not take too long, I went over the most essential in less than a day in spare time. It is the real eye-opener, glorious explanations of the soil food web and gives us a handle on what is happening in there, why salt-based ferts are not nearly as good, mobile vs immobile elements, etc. It is a good idea to arm yourself with this knowledge before looking at a tea recipe or doing a soil cook, as it will give you the keys to understanding why each recipe is good, why to wait, why bubbling as opposed to boiling etc:

http://ge.tt/9LYCbnC/v/1

These were the SOLE RESOURCES I used to get my plants growing like they're on some kind of steroids. Bit of a journey, but worth every single step. And you guys get PERFECT soils for sale on the commercial market, unlike over here where I had to cook my first one for close on 6 weeks to get to see what it does. Fox Farm sounds like a great company to support, over here our soils are waaaaaay too sterile if it comes in a bag :/
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Thanks for sharing that! AWESOME READ!

Peace
FM
 
greenghost420

greenghost420

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i love a good jab! the over the top hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah threw me off. :bigjoint: i dont spar with women unless theyre girlie-men lol
 
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Fresh 2 De@th

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Widow, what's good daddio?

been combing through the last few pages and it seems like a lot of good info has been passed around from some good folks in this thread; thanks to all for sharing such knowledge.

also got to admit with GreenGhost with seedlings in cups.
don't get me wrong, i use them too, but have notice that if you don't allow a nice amount of runoff, shit can go bad real fast.
i also like transplant them by day 10, from cups to quarter gallon pots, but being that i haven't had the best luck when leaving my babies/ladies with someone else and have some space issues where i'm currently keeping my young worlds, most are still in cups atvm.
 
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Fresh 2 De@th

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as Widow stated a page or 2 back, i will be updating through his thread (thanks a lot, good brother) until i get myself and grow area better situated. tbh, i will more than likely update in this thread from here on out than anywhere else. the only other threads that i started that will be updated are testers and my finish bud shot thread.

with no further ado, here's with good ol Fresh has been up to lately

Noreaster x KVOG #'s 1,2,4 and 6








Pure Kush x KVOG #1




Valley Dawg 3


these are not all of what's soon to hit the bloom room, but just the one's that are in the best shape of the bunch and looked decent enough to take a pic of. just to give you dudes an idea of what i've been going through during the summer and i guess plant sitters.
here's what they looked like not too long ago until i nursed most/almost all into decent enough shape.
 
wyteberrywidow

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Yeah im just not having the best luck with things lately.. I need to tighten up some things and get things moving along smoothly. All the seedlings are now in 1 gallons of a soil/coco mix and will now be getting fed fox farm nutes and teas. I lost 3 c.c.k seedlings which leaves me at 6 cck and 8 501st og. Once these seedlings are past this tender stage I will be setting them up under a 400 to get them going.
 
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