Someacdude
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Can i put grass clipping in my mix?
So who here is growing in true organic living soil?
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NickNasty
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I am not a big fan of xtreme, I have not seen as good as results with it as a good all around myco with bact/trichoderma. I try to find the cheapest I can online with as wide of spectrum as I can. From what I understand all the companies get their mycorrhizal fungi from the same company and just get different mixes.
Mad Hamish
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[=st0wandgrow;9567458]Yes. It opens up the root ball and seems to encourage new root growth. I was hesitant to do it the first time too. Give it a whirl ..... it works well![/QUOTE]
it's kinda like topping but underground. After learning to clip a bit at transplant my bags fill up with roots damn fast, they don't get much if a trim though.
it's kinda like topping but underground. After learning to clip a bit at transplant my bags fill up with roots damn fast, they don't get much if a trim though.
Rrog
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Could be hot (Nitrogen burn). Little won't hurt
st0wandgrow
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Yep. I'm pretty sure MM mentioned that it's premier tech out of Montreal.
http://www.usemykepro.com/about-myke-pro.aspx
Someacdude
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Im putting it in my cooker so i wont be using it for months.
Rrog
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Coot has been using his various teas and this is one he keeps using. This is a compilation of a few posts or emails.
Alfalfa
Alfalfa is often grown to improve poor or depleted farmlands. Being a legume it fixes Nitrogen in the soil and the root system is massive and goes very deep into the sub-soil - deeper than other legumes and certainly deeper than most domesticated tree crops. This helps to break-up the soil structure allowing greater aeration and water movement in the root zone.
Plus it's up there with kelp meal, comfrey, stinging nettles and other bionutrient accumulators. If used correctly, as in the correct amount, it can add a lot to your garden's plants...
A combination of kelp meal & alfalfa tea is one that I use on a regular basis in the veg cycle and especially a few days after transplanting - it's like steroids.
1 cup of alfalfa meal (pellets) with 1/4 cup kelp meal to 5 gallons of water - bubble for 24 hours or so. This is the strength for watering the soil and dilute that 1:1 with water for a foliar spray.
I do use alfalfa meal for making teas and then the material is then run through worm bins which is what I also do with kelp & neem meals. Even after making a tea approximately 50% of 'the stuff' remains so it's not worthless by any means.
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Alfalfa
Alfalfa is often grown to improve poor or depleted farmlands. Being a legume it fixes Nitrogen in the soil and the root system is massive and goes very deep into the sub-soil - deeper than other legumes and certainly deeper than most domesticated tree crops. This helps to break-up the soil structure allowing greater aeration and water movement in the root zone.
Plus it's up there with kelp meal, comfrey, stinging nettles and other bionutrient accumulators. If used correctly, as in the correct amount, it can add a lot to your garden's plants...
A combination of kelp meal & alfalfa tea is one that I use on a regular basis in the veg cycle and especially a few days after transplanting - it's like steroids.
1 cup of alfalfa meal (pellets) with 1/4 cup kelp meal to 5 gallons of water - bubble for 24 hours or so. This is the strength for watering the soil and dilute that 1:1 with water for a foliar spray.
I do use alfalfa meal for making teas and then the material is then run through worm bins which is what I also do with kelp & neem meals. Even after making a tea approximately 50% of 'the stuff' remains so it's not worthless by any means.
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st0wandgrow
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Someacdude
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Picked up 6 clones today and a mother, fruity b / cush also picked up a 20 pack of seeds, got 7 or 8 more clones to do tomorrow and im off on my first grow.20 pack of cush somethingorother ,
Mad Hamish
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Makes a BRILLIANT mulch, cheap and readily available so you can get into a mulching 'routine' with your grass clippings. We use big fat spreads of it to keep the fungus gnats out of the soil, seeing as it dries out really fast and doesn't re-hydrate all that easily.
Someacdude
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So you mulch around the base of the plant with grass clippings? I used to do that on the farm, kept me from weeding.
Mad Hamish
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Yes indeed I do! But keep in mind that is outdoors, and not just my ganja plants. Outdoors the key to keeping and building soil health is MULCH MULCH MULCH and then more MULCH! The mulch naturally harvests microbes and keeps a great environment for them to live in too, and turns into lovely humus as time goes by. I have generated literally TONS of topsoil by continuous mulching. I have a veggie bed that has now risen a good 3 feet above ground level in as many years simply for zero-till and mulching.
Seeing as I am getting into indoor soil gardening, I will start using mulch there too. But not on first runs, only as I start recycling bags of soil will I mulch, instead of taking the soil out and re-mixing I am simply going to plant in the same container again and then mulch it up. Figure it will supply fresh organic matter at a pace similar to the needs of the soil microbes. Win/Win situation
GandalfdaGreen
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You are the man. My outdoor gardens are going to be so nice next year. Thanks for the info on the Alfalfa tea Rrog. You guys are a source of inspiration.Yes indeed I do! But keep in mind that is outdoors, and not just my ganja plants. Outdoors the key to keeping and building soil health is MULCH MULCH MULCH and then more MULCH! The mulch naturally harvests microbes and keeps a great environment for them to live in too, and turns into lovely humus as time goes by. I have generated literally TONS of topsoil by continuous mulching. I have a veggie bed that has now risen a good 3 feet above ground level in as many years simply for zero-till and mulching.
Seeing as I am getting into indoor soil gardening, I will start using mulch there too. But not on first runs, only as I start recycling bags of soil will I mulch, instead of taking the soil out and re-mixing I am simply going to plant in the same container again and then mulch it up. Figure it will supply fresh organic matter at a pace similar to the needs of the soil microbes. Win/Win situation
I have a neighbor right next door to me that has a huge pile of woodchips and horseshit. He spreads the woodchips out in his barn as flooring cover for his horses then tosses them in this huge pile. He turns it every two weeks with his tractor. He said I could use it. It has been there forever.
VTMi'kmaq
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Never any shortage of lawn clippings in the green mountain state I tell ya! Verynice info Hamish. Think I have a sleestack on steroids atm lol, i'll take pics tomarrow and find a place that's appropriate to share them at. Thought about doing a grow journal on them but there already into flowering so yeah there's that issue. Anyway this plant got reg feedings and a tricarboxylic acid auxilary supplement and its doing well.
Someacdude
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Yeppy, used to do that all the time, no weeding is the best part.Yes indeed I do! But keep in mind that is outdoors, and not just my ganja plants. Outdoors the key to keeping and building soil health is MULCH MULCH MULCH and then more MULCH! The mulch naturally harvests microbes and keeps a great environment for them to live in too, and turns into lovely humus as time goes by. I have generated literally TONS of topsoil by continuous mulching. I have a veggie bed that has now risen a good 3 feet above ground level in as many years simply for zero-till and mulching.
Seeing as I am getting into indoor soil gardening, I will start using mulch there too. But not on first runs, only as I start recycling bags of soil will I mulch, instead of taking the soil out and re-mixing I am simply going to plant in the same container again and then mulch it up. Figure it will supply fresh organic matter at a pace similar to the needs of the soil microbes. Win/Win situation
Mad Hamish
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Are you serious bro?! That is just BADASS. For free too? You don't want to know what I charge people for a hessian bag full if they want to come fetch. And I now refuse to sell. Since you guys turned me onto this Living Soil thing, oh HELL NO!. Nobody's touching my aged horse poop.
If you can leave a pile of it somewhere in your garden, it grows the most insane colonies of mycelium all over the show. PERFECT breeding ground for bennies, pity he's turned it so often but you can remedy this by just leaving some of it alone in your own little pile somewhere. I used to think the white strands were just common mould, but I know much better now. Now I GO for the white bits
I can't believe I purposefully took the WRONG part off my poop pile for so long. Damn glad to have learned what I have since finding your thread mate. I'm busy figuring out how to get all the bennies OUT so I can culture them in liquid cultures. Can't wait for my 2000x scope, it is one tool I will need to see if I was successful, and managed to get some of everything, bacteria, fungi, paramecium etc etc, and then start the tedious yet exciting process of learning how to identify them too.
You guys really put me onto one amazing mission this side. LOVING IT. But yes, free horse poop compost is a great thing to have, you better take advantage of it, if I didn't have horses there'd be no way I could get any really. Very popular around here especially for rose gardens, the horses mainly eat alfalfa too and roses LOVE alfalfa mulch and of course horse poop. Grows the best roses you can imagine, so it's really not easy to find and if you do you pay through your teeth. Or at least around my parts you do.
Someacdude
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Just picked up 2 five gallon containers of dirt from the chicken yard, how much should i add to this mix ?
What i have made up fills up 3 32 gallon trash cans.
Oh yeah, i also picked up a 5 gallon bucket of goat poo, what should i do with that?
Mad Hamish
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OK I might get some funny looks for this: My plants are vegan. I keep them on a strictly vegan diet. No blood, no bone. Anybodyu else here go for 'vegan' gardening?... It extends from my veggies, a close friend of mine is vegan and I supply him with some fresh edibles and I was just taking the piss with him once, telling him how it makes no sense being vegan if the PLANTS eat animal matter. He came back to me armed to the teeth with info on why VEGAN GARDENING is better. I love him so I've been making sure his produce is totally vegan-fed, works out a lot cheaper for me to produce anyhow. Guys, plants like vegan food is all I can say...