Spots on lower fan leaf
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HeadieNugz
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Keep for future reference.
Money is on Zink, P or K deff.
Id hit them with more Dyna, and if its the latter two it'll solve it.
Keep for future reference.
Money is on Zink, P or K deff.
Id hit them with more Dyna, and if its the latter two it'll solve it.
MD914
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Thank you!! Stems are pretty purple and there aren't any nutes in my soil so I was wondering if I shouldn't feed them full strength. Just don't wanna over do it!!
Foothills
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Since you have taken cuttings recently, then noticed the problem, this could also be a fungal infection known as "ring spot", along with several other names. I've used neem oil in the past to control it. It comes as a concentrate, sold at Walmart, goes by the name, "Garden Safe Fungicide 3". If you use this, just a light spray is fine, don't over do it. I know this is not fun at times, but It can be a very good way to learn. Good Luck !
MD914
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Thanks Foothills...this was a very hard earned lesson from first grow! Lol...I always watch my pH now both going in and coming out! I use the drops, test strips sound like a good idea though. This grow my runoff has stayed clear but last time it was always discolored...so I was never REALLY sure about what it was (but it was def VERY LOW)
MD914
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Something I hadn't considered...I do have Neem Oil (Gardensafe brand concentrate) I'd like to rule out def first...last time I used neem oil it spotted my leaves pretty bad....probably user error but Im gun-shy now!! Lol..
Foothills
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Well, It sounds like you have a good plan in place that makes sense MD. If I had an experience like that with the neem oil, I'd be gun shy too. Good luck my friend and let me know when you find some extra room in that closet of yours. lol Oh, I almost forgot this:http://www.420magazine.com/forums/f...abis-plant-pest-problem-solver-pictorial.html Another very good trouble shooter loaded with some very good information, in addition to the wonderful info here on riu of course. lol 
MD914
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Well, It sounds like you have a good plan in place that makes sense MD. If I had an experience like that with the neem oil, I'd be gun shy too. Good luck my friend and let me know when you find some extra room in that closet of yours. lol Oh, I almost forgot this:http://www.420magazine.com/forums/f...abis-plant-pest-problem-solver-pictorial.html Another very good trouble shooter loaded with some very good information, in addition to the wonderful info here on riu of course. lol
I think I like that! Hehehe
MD914
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I increased my dyna Gro and Pro Tekt to 1/2 teaspoon per gallon (from 1/4 teaspoon per gallon) this morning and pH'd to 7...got between 6.5 and 7 from the runoff. (Happy dance) My first grow I couldn't get my runoff higher than 5.5!! It was a lockout TRAINWRECK!! This is VERY exciting to me as last time I used Miracle Gro with time released nutes and then FED them nutes (don't know WHAT I was thinking) on top of that THROUGHOUT the veg cycle...I paid DEARLY during the flowering stage and only got 40 grams of terrible smelling bud (smells like cow hay) off 3 plants!!
The spots have not gotten worse and still only affect the one fan leaf. As this is a triploid, I DO have extra fan leaves (as well as Kolas
) and Im wondering if I shouldn't just cut it away? If it IS something on the fungi level would that correct? Or am I just looking for an easy way out?!?! Or perhaps I should practice patience (I want it fixed yesterday) and see if it was def from the light feeding? I should add that I mixed my own soil this grow and it has no nutes so the plants only get what I give them.I tied her down last night and she's perfectly perky this morning!!
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Foothills
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Oh, TRAINWRECK, now there's one that will put ya on the couch with a big smile on your face ! hahaha
Glad to hear your ph is right in there where it should be MD, and that you have learned how important it can be from experience.(the best teacher imo)
I would not cut that leaf. It's making a contribution to your plant, you said it has not gotten worse, and it could very well have nothing to do with a fungus at all.
If you did decide to cut the leaf, no, it would not get rid of a fungal infection. they are very hard, if not impossible, to get rid of entirely once they get their start within your plant.
Don't let that bother you as they can usually be controlled very easily with anything from homemade treatments to commercial fungicides.
I think it's great that you decided to mix your own soil without the nutes this time. This will also help you down the road and give you a better understanding of things like soil texture and soil additives as a whole.
So tell me more, what is your water source ?, has it been tested ?, how many watts of cfl are you using ?, and what Dyna-Gro formula are you using ? (good choice imo) Is there a chance the plant is starting to become root bound ?, How many waterings is the plant getting between feedings ? You know, some of that really good stuff ! lol
Glad to hear your ph is right in there where it should be MD, and that you have learned how important it can be from experience.(the best teacher imo)
I would not cut that leaf. It's making a contribution to your plant, you said it has not gotten worse, and it could very well have nothing to do with a fungus at all.
If you did decide to cut the leaf, no, it would not get rid of a fungal infection. they are very hard, if not impossible, to get rid of entirely once they get their start within your plant.
Don't let that bother you as they can usually be controlled very easily with anything from homemade treatments to commercial fungicides.
I think it's great that you decided to mix your own soil without the nutes this time. This will also help you down the road and give you a better understanding of things like soil texture and soil additives as a whole.
So tell me more, what is your water source ?, has it been tested ?, how many watts of cfl are you using ?, and what Dyna-Gro formula are you using ? (good choice imo) Is there a chance the plant is starting to become root bound ?, How many waterings is the plant getting between feedings ? You know, some of that really good stuff ! lol
Foothills
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Yes...I have had 4 cups of coffee this morning
Well, I've only had three, the first one, outside with the girls was the best . lol
MD914
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Oh, TRAINWRECK, now there's one that will put ya on the couch with a big smile on your face ! hahaha
Glad to hear your ph is right in there where it should be MD, and that you have learned how important it can be from experience.(the best teacher imo)
I would not cut that leaf. It's making a contribution to your plant, you said it has not gotten worse, and it could very well have nothing to do with a fungus at all.
If you did decide to cut the leaf, no, it would not get rid of a fungal infection. they are very hard, if not impossible, to get rid of entirely once they get their start within your plant.
Don't let that bother you as they can usually be controlled very easily with anything from homemade treatments to commercial fungicides.
I think it's great that you decided to mix your own soil without the nutes this time. This will also help you down the road and give you a better understanding of things like soil texture and soil additives as a whole.
So tell me more, what is your water source ?, has it been tested ?, how many watts of cfl are you using ?, and what Dyna-Gro formula are you using ? (good choice imo) Is there a chance the plant is starting to become root bound ?, How many waterings is the plant getting between feedings ? You know, some of that really good stuff ! lol
On the TRAINWRECK...it wasn't that kind of TRAINWRECK!! Lol! As far as my water source I generally use tap water that sits for 24+ hours. If we get a heavy rain I'll set a bucket out to collect, but only if its a downpour. (because I live at the beach and I wonder how much salt is in a typical afternoon shower and if that would have I'll affects? I have not had my water tested and Im on city water supply. I stumbled across the dyna Gro on an Internet search. Im currently using the Gro and Pro Tekt but I also have the CalMag Plus and the bloom formula. I like the simplicity of their products. I started out in total newbie style with two 4 foot fluorescent tubes and have since added CFL's of various spectrums. So basically my plants are about 2 inches below the tubes with CFL's clamped on both sides adding more as I raise my fluoro tubes and can fit them. I currently have two 42 watt and two 20 watt on both sides with two 20 watt on each end...two 4 foot fluoro tubes above if that gives you much of a visual?
I don't suspect they are root bound at this point but plan on transplanting. I just tied them down a couple days ago so I want to give them time to recover (even though they don't act like they minded it much)
OH...almost forgot!! I water twice between feedings and right now Im watering every 2-3 days based on weight of the pots
Foothills
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Thanks MD, I know all those questions are a pain in the butt. I wanted to get a feel for what level you are at and try to pick up on something that might not be right. Not that I'm even close to being any kind of expert on any of this.
Sounds to me like your doing every thing right and the Grow formula is the one I love to use all the way through, unless my girls tell me otherwise. ( they do sometimes ) LOL !
Dyna gro is very good imo, it's complete,lower in salts than many, and the big thing is that all the nutes are in ratios that make very good sense. That is huge when it comes to preventing problems down the road. .
Looking at your plant, I think it looks good and healthy with no signs of a nitrogen def (more common) at all. Keep an eye on her, just like you have been and look for any response to the higher nutes. Don't change anything else in the meantime if you can help it ! Basic, simple, and in most cases less is more, my friend. Don't sweat anything, after all, this should be fun and enjoyable. I for one, have issues just like yours with my plants all the time.
Now about that TRAINWRECK, are you absolutely sure that it wasn't "that kind of TRAINWRECK" ? Those uuum, slightly horizontal oriented pictures of your "very nice" plant made me visualize you laying on the couch, taking those same pictures, with a big ole smile on your face..... No ?? lmao
Sounds to me like your doing every thing right and the Grow formula is the one I love to use all the way through, unless my girls tell me otherwise. ( they do sometimes ) LOL !
Dyna gro is very good imo, it's complete,lower in salts than many, and the big thing is that all the nutes are in ratios that make very good sense. That is huge when it comes to preventing problems down the road. .
Looking at your plant, I think it looks good and healthy with no signs of a nitrogen def (more common) at all. Keep an eye on her, just like you have been and look for any response to the higher nutes. Don't change anything else in the meantime if you can help it ! Basic, simple, and in most cases less is more, my friend. Don't sweat anything, after all, this should be fun and enjoyable. I for one, have issues just like yours with my plants all the time.
Now about that TRAINWRECK, are you absolutely sure that it wasn't "that kind of TRAINWRECK" ? Those uuum, slightly horizontal oriented pictures of your "very nice" plant made me visualize you laying on the couch, taking those same pictures, with a big ole smile on your face..... No ??
lmao
MD914
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Thanks MD, I know all those questions are a pain in the butt. I wanted to get a feel for what level you are at and try to pick up on something that might not be right. Not that I'm even close to being any kind of expert on any of this.
Sounds to me like your doing every thing right and the Grow formula is the one I love to use all the way through, unless my girls tell me otherwise. ( they do sometimes ) LOL !
Dyna gro is very good imo, it's complete,lower in salts than many, and the big thing is that all the nutes are in ratios that make very good sense. That is huge when it comes to preventing problems down the road. .
Looking at your plant, I think it looks good and healthy with no signs of a nitrogen def (more common) at all. Keep an eye on her, just like you have been and look for any response to the higher nutes. Don't change anything else in the meantime if you can help it ! Basic, simple, and in most cases less is more, my friend. Don't sweat anything, after all, this should be fun and enjoyable. I for one, have issues just like yours with my plants all the time.
Now about that TRAINWRECK, are you absolutely sure that it wasn't "that kind of TRAINWRECK" ? Those uuum, slightly horizontal oriented pictures of your "very nice" plant made me visualize you laying on the couch, taking those same pictures, with a big ole smile on your face..... No ??
NOOOOO!!!! Im dyin' here!!! I was JUST thinking to myself..."why do my pics post sideways? They aren't that way in my camera roll??" Smartphone my ASS!! LMAO!!
Oh and as far as "getting a feel for what level Im at"....I don't have a CLUE!! Haha...I'm learning as I go and very much enjoying it
Steelheader3430
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I've been going through the same thing. I think I had a compound of issues. Low ph'd water, lack of nutes and mag. def. Lost all the foliage and shoots off the three lower sites on all four tops. Uncle ben topping style. I gave some epsom salt, fixed the ph, and ff grow big. It seems to be pulling out of it. If mine survived yours should be fine, just be patient and don't rush into treatment. I think Foothills will get you on the right path. Have you looked into http://www.xtreme-gardening.com/ mycos and azos? I found small packages at a general store to try out and they work surprisingly well to say the least. I'll never grow without them again. Just saying. Good luck.
MD914
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HAHAHA ! It's Dat Freaking TRAINWRECK MD, I'm Tellen Ya LMAO !!
If you really don't have a clue and you are enjoying yourself MD, Well thats a wonderful way to "FLY" good for you. LOL !!
Now, as far as me getting a "FEEL". Well, I'm not even going near that one, my friend ! HAHAHAHA !!
Oh my!!
Foothills
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Glad to hear you are seeing some better results now Steelheader. Like MD mentioned in her post, learning as you go and enjoying it along the way is basically the way it works and it's just not an over night thing. I've screwed up big time, many times, and I still do.( just not as big) It always continues to be a learning experience no matter how long you've been at it or what you think you may know. After all, that's what makes it interesting and helps to keep that passion burning !!
