Guns don't kill people, gun owners kill people.

[burgertime2010]

A gun does not make you less inbred or the Government righteous. Why do deadly weapons make any difference to me? they don't......just when trigger happy, angry, ignorant people can wave em around pretending they are free. I think you need another couple guns and a history lesson.

 

[burgertime2010]

...try and remember that back in 1776 the citizens needed guns to protect themselves from a lawful, albeit oppressive, government so, in their day the lawful government would have loved gun control.

if guns aren't allowed it is much easier to control the sheeple.

The right remains relative to the technology of the time. Period.

 

[Wilksey]

 

[burgertime2010]

...you're kidding right?

by todays standards? Arms are arms.....the founders anticipated automatic weapons?

 

[Balzac89]

Because I can....I should?

Better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and need it.

 

[Balzac89]

who can protect you better yourself or the government?

 

[Jimdamick]

progressive libtard horseshit!

...you can have my gun when you can take it from my cold dead hands!

....libtard morons!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin

if you want to give up your guns and trust that the 'government' will keep you safe then you are a fool, plain and simple, with the emphasis on 'simple'.

Then why do progressive left of center individuals on an average, have higher IQ's than individuals that are right of center? That is a proven fact, and helps to explain why most Republicans are so fucking stupid.

 

[burgertime2010]

Better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and need it.

At last, an actual reason....thanks.

 

[justanotherbozo]

The right remains relative to the technology of the time. Period.

...typical libtard bullshit.

...tell me you wouldn't want a gun in your hand when YOUR life is threatened? ...or someone is raping your daughter maybe? ...how about if you're just a ballplayer from Australia? ...or you live in Chicago?

...in this country you are more than free to live without guns in your house and i am still free to live WITH guns in MY house so if your house is being invaded you are fucked, if MY house is invaded maybe i shoot the motherfucker and it is HE that is fucked!

but hey, keep drinking the coolaid and fooling yourself.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were once our countrymen."

~ Samuel Adams

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

The right remains relative to the technology of the time. Period.

First, bear arms meant to carry them or have them on your person. Hence the keep AND bear arms.

Second, well regulated meant you could shoot really well.

Third, the common use phrase means we should all be allowed AK-47's. they are the most common rifle in use.

Fourth, governments are oppressive. The right still needs to exist.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

by todays standards? Arms are arms.....the founders anticipated automatic weapons?

Yes. You think those guys were dumb?

 

[MuyLocoNC]

On a side note, I just bought a pristine Beretta 390 semiautomatic 12 ga. shotgun for my birthday yesterday. Broke 44 out of 50 clays at our local course this morning. I highly recommend you add this remarkable firearm to your collection if you come across anyone foolish enough to part with one.

 

[justanotherbozo]

Then why do progressive left of center individuals on an average, have higher IQ's than individuals that are right of center? That is a proven fact, and helps to explain why most Republicans are so fucking stupid.

...ROTFLMAO, more libtard horseshit!

...you are a fool if you think there is ANY real difference between Democrans and Republicats.

...and with Nancy Pelosi as a shining example of libtard intelligence, well, i'd rather be in Philidelphia, lol.

...btw, if you want to make blanket statements like that and you don't want people to think you a fool then you might consider posting links to the science that backs up the hogwash you spout.

bozo

 

[burgertime2010]

First, bear arms meant to carry them or have them on your person. Hence the keep AND bear arms.

Second, well regulated meant you could shoot really well.

Third, the common use phrase means we should all be allowed AK-47's. they are the most common rifle in use.

Fourth, governments are oppressive. The right still needs to exist.

Arms are not specific to firearms however, shooting well and safely seem like good ideas still. Ak-47s are not making anybody safer....in the military, countries love those precision killers. There is a distinction between weapons of war and those for the needs people say they buy guns for i.e. protection, hunting, suicide. Government oppression......what a joke that someone with a gun is going to avoid that. Go to law school.

 

[Doer]

And if you factor in suicide by cop was the motive in the first place, it is even less, still. It is very hard to say because of the lies to the emotions.

But, I think it is safe to estimate the actual gun murders in the USA is around 10K a year and less each year.

So, we do not lead the world with murder rate, we simply lead the civilized world somewhat in overall homicides.

The rate is going down. This from 2010.

[h=2]Mortality[/h] [h=4]All homicides[/h]

• Number of deaths: 16,259
• Deaths per 100,000 population: 5.3

[h=4]Firearm homicides[/h]

• Number of deaths: 11,078
• Deaths per 100,000 population: 3.6

Source: Deaths: Final Data for 2010, table 18 [PDF - 3.1 MB]

United States
Crime rates (2011)
Crime type	Rate[SUP]*[/SUP]
Homicide:	4.7
Forcible rape:	26.8
Robbery:	113.7
Aggravated assault:	241.1
Violent crime:	386.3
Burglary:	702.2
Larceny-theft:	1976.9
Motor vehicle theft:	229.6
Property crime:	2908.7
Notes * Number of reported crimes per 100,000 population.
Source: FBI Crime in the United States 2011

So, here is another fact that I won't bother to dig up again, as the ABC troll knows this is a stupid subject and has been beat out of existence with facts.

That never bothered a troll.

IAC, the USA has a reported rate, to the police in the order of 1,000,000 saves with no shots fired by the gun owner.

"They heard/saw I racked/shucked/cocked/brandished/aimed they and ran off, Officer."

So, the entire lie is agenda of anti-con.

 

[Doer]

If people are to blame why do we give them rights they cannot handle?

We don't grant rights. Roy Roy may kill you with a tooth pick while arm wrestling. He doesn't need a gun and always has a toothpick.

Bruce Lee knew a 100 ways with his bare hands. Anyone could end op killing someone, lawfully, accidentally or with rage, malice aforethought, etc. The weapon is the LIE.

And read that Constitution. Who is it that grants those rights? WE do not. The GOVT does not. The Rights exist whole cloth, inalienable. Read the 9th Amendment. Even the ones not thought of yet, we already have.

WE as a governance seek to balance the needs of the few, but we have a weak point. We are easily emotion TAMPERED.

 

[burgertime2010]

And if you factor in suicide by cop was the motive in the first place, it is even less, still. It is very hard to say because of the lies to the emotions.

But, I think it is safe to estimate the actual gun murders in the USA is around 10K a year and less each year.

So, we do not lead the world with murder rate, we simply lead the civilized world somewhat in overall homicides.

The rate is going down. This from 2010.

Mortality

All homicides

• Number of deaths: 16,259
• Deaths per 100,000 population: 5.3

Firearm homicides

• Number of deaths: 11,078
• Deaths per 100,000 population: 3.6

Source: Deaths: Final Data for 2010, table 18 [PDF - 3.1 MB]

United States
Crime rates (2011)
Crime type	Rate[SUP]*[/SUP]
Homicide:	4.7
Forcible rape:	26.8
Robbery:	113.7
Aggravated assault:	241.1
Violent crime:	386.3
Burglary:	702.2
Larceny-theft:	1976.9
Motor vehicle theft:	229.6
Property crime:	2908.7
Notes * Number of reported crimes per 100,000 population.
Source: FBI Crime in the United States 2011

So, here is another fact that I won't bother to dig up again, as the ABC troll knows this is a stupid subject and has been beat out of existence with facts.

That never bothered a troll.

IAC, the USA has a reported rate, to the police in the order of 1,000,000 saves with no shots fired by the gun owner.

"They heard/saw I racked/shucked/cocked/brandished/aimed they and ran off, Officer."

So, the entire lie is agenda of anti-con.

Can I ask why I should own a firearm and escape alive? Hard to get a solid response.

 

[Doer]

If you want to own a firearm with more capacity than a single shot I think you should have to take an IQ test.

Which you score about 80 with that very sentence. And tell us you only own single shots and never will need 2.

 

[Doer]

On a side note, I just bought a pristine Beretta 390 semiautomatic 12 ga. shotgun for my birthday yesterday. Broke 44 out of 50 clays at our local course this morning. I highly recommend you add this remarkable firearm to your collection if you come across anyone foolish enough to part with one.

44? Good job. I assume you mean skeet. 44 in trap is tough for me. Need more practice.

 

[justanotherbozo]

Can I ask why I should own a firearm and escape alive? Hard to get a solid response.

...you shouldn't own a gun if you don't want one homey, but you also shouldn't have the power to say I can't have one in MY house, THAT is called oppression and it infringes on my right to protect me and mine. ...you shouldn't have that power and neither should my government.