latest Michigan medical marijuana news.....

abe supercro

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O midmi power knocked out... high winds - rain made outside gardening this evening interesting though. may scram or sit in dark. anything happening in the D
 

buckaroo bonzai

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Civil infraction for a zip or less...$25-$100 fine. Unless I'm missing something...it's a good start.

doesnt it say 'life' in prison for over 1000gr tho-??

that seems worse than what we got now....??? --wtf?

they always thro sum fine print in that you skim over....the 'fuck you' clause

i also see it looks like shrooms and lSd would be misdemeanors to get you pumped and not see the life in prison clause

when i first heard about this i was excited
.....till i really really read the whole thing-

i think life in prison for a couple pounds is not better than we have now.....
seems like the same folks bringng the provision centers online helped conspire with this......

so it will be a fine for an ounce or less...?......but life if this passes for a couple lbs-?

--or am i reading it wrong?
 

buckaroo bonzai

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O midmi power knocked out... high winds - rain made outside gardening this evening interesting though. may scram or sit in dark. anything happening in the D
storm blew thru pretty good...i was up in flint and went right thru it
hardest rain i have seen all year-

cars all down the side of 75 waitin for a reprieve to be able to see....
my 4X4 just plowed right thru it


theres drums in the D now that the storm has passed
....and soon smoke:joint:before the fiyah:fire:
 

Limosnero

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doesnt it say 'life' in prison for over 1000gr tho-??that seems worse than what we got now....??? --wtf?they always thro sum fine print in that you skim over....the 'fuck you' clausei also see it looks like shrooms and lSd would be misdemeanors to get you pumped and not see the life in prison clausewhen i first heard about this i was excited.....till i really really read the whole thing-i think life in prison for a couple pounds is not better than we have now.....seems like the same folks bringng the provision centers online helped conspire with this......so it will be a fine for an ounce or less...?......but life if this passes for a couple lbs-?--or am i reading it wrong?
I believe the bold type is what is being amended to the existing "public health code" so yeah, we already have those penalties. Check out page 172 of existing http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-act-368-of-1978.pdf heres the proposed. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2013-2014/billintroduced/House/pdf/2013-HIB-4623.pdf
 

ProfessorPotSnob

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Latest news in the Medical Marijuana community : Mold and Mold spores everywhere and the conditions are more than ideal for troubles .. Mayday mayday
 

Rrog

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Neem and other volatile oils. Peppermint, Basil, Holy Basil, Cilantro. Get it as a dilute foliar now to trigger the plant's own immune response. Get a fresh application of VermiCompost. These things will first and foremost get the plants own defenses on alert.
 

ProfessorPotSnob

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Neem and other volatile oils. Peppermint, Basil, Holy Basil, Cilantro. Get it as a dilute foliar now to trigger the plant's own immune response. Get a fresh application of VermiCompost. These things will first and foremost get the plants own defenses on alert.
Well said .. I am wishing prosperity for all as this season , it is getting rough now for anyone outdoors or in greenhouses .. I think in the end though it will allow others to learn and see how some plants are just resistant from the get go . I collect and breed these types more than any others .. It was hard though getting rid of the majority of my thai collection for this reason :)
 

Rrog

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I have friends in Oregon and Washington who have to grow what's naturally most resistant to PM
 

buckaroo bonzai

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Latest news in the Medical Marijuana community : Mold and Mold spores everywhere and the conditions are more than ideal for troubles .. Mayday mayday

Botritus....bunch rot

--same thing grape growers get

time to stay up al nite w headlamps and look for that 'glowing' mold

yeah conditions are perfect right now to ruin everyones work....diligence and a watchful eye will help
 

buckaroo bonzai

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gotta love those 'pot mamas'--



‘Pot Mama’ Exerts Influence in Fighting Corporate Takeover

She sits in the back of public hearings, tapping on her laptop. She meets with public officials, and fires off detailed letters about her opinions. Yesterday, it became clear they are taken seriously.


Alison Holcomb—dubbed “pot mama” by a SW cover story last year-- may no longer be masterminding the legalization of marijuana, but her influence can still be felt as the initiative she authored, 502, undergoes implementation.
Liquor Control Board director Rick Garza referenced meetings with Holcomb, criminal justice director of the ACLU of Washington, as he helped explain the new rules proposed by the agency yesterday. An overarching concern of Holcomb, echoed by other players in the fledgling marijuana industry, is that “we don’t allow corporations to take over,” Garza said at a press briefing in Olympia. That, he said, was a motivation in stipulating that no entity could hold more than three licenses.
Since the regulation places caps on the overall number of licenses (for retail stores, the state limit would be 334), a corporation could gobble up a big share of the pool if there were no three-license rule.
The LCB also proposed that licenses be given to growers according to a three-tier system based on how large the entities are, as measured by the square footage of their facilities. Holcomb suggested a tier system in a letter to the LCB back in June.
Talking with SW today, Holcomb confirms that she believes a tier system would stave off corporate dominance, which she says is important for two reasons. First, she wants to encourage as many “illicit” operators as possible to transition into the legal market. Such operators, she says, tend to be mom and pop entities that would otherwise be at a disadvantage when competing for a license with big businesses that have better financing and more impressive paperwork.
Controversially, she includes medical marijuana dispensaries in the category of illicit businesses. As she sees it, the state law that allows medical marijuana “collective gardens” does not legalize “commercial” entities, and dispensaries are thus operating outside the law. While dispensaries (or “access points” as they are technically known) argue otherwise, it’s true, as Holcomb points out, that both Governor Jay Inslee and U.S. Attorney for Western Washington Jenny Durkan have signaled their uneasewith medical marijuana’s gray market.
Holcomb says she’s also promoting a tier system because she hopes it will give entrepreneurs in poor and minority communities a shot. She notes that those are the communities that have been disproportionately affected by the war on drugs.
She’s picking up on an irony remarked upon at a recent LCB public hearing by Larry Evans, a legislative aide to King County Council member Larry Gossett. For years African Americans and Latinos bore the brunt of harsh drug enforcement laws, but now that marijuana is legal, Evans said, minorities are at risk of being shut out of the industry.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/home/948736-129/holcomb-marijuana-public-system-tier-dispensaries
 

buckaroo bonzai

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Hurst’s opinion, as made evident by comments at a House committee work session this week: >>shut it down<<


Christopher Hurst: The Legislator Gunning for Medical Marijuana

At a Hempfest panel last month, Hilary Bricken, Seattle’s go-to lawyer for new marijuana entrepreneurs, told the crowd to look out for one man:Christopher Hurst, a Demoratic legislator from Enumclaw and retired police commander who once served on a narcotics task force.


“This guy is gunning for medical marijuana,” Bricken said. She got that right.
Now that recreational marijuana is legal, and a set of tight regulations are being drawn up by the Liquor Control Board, a lot of officials are asking what should be done about the unregulated medical marijuana market. Hurst’s opinion, as made evident by comments at a House committee work session this week: shut it down.
The House Government Accountability and Oversight Committee held the Tuesday work session to update legislators on both Initiative 502 implementation and work the LCB is doing on recommended regulations for the medical pot market. Midway through the session, Hurst said he wanted to make a “pointed observation” about U.S. Attorney of Western Washington Jenny Durkan’s recent remark that the illicit marijuana market was “untenable.”
“I think there isn’t an iota of difference between ‘untenable’ and illegal,’” he said. “I think that if you are selling marijuana today it is just plain illegal. It doesn’t look like the dispensaries that we have operating are even on the periphery of something that is legitimate.”
He went on, suggesting that part of his rationale lies in the competition that will be facing the state-regulated and heavily-taxed recreational market if medical marijuana is allowed to continue. He asked: “We have to really, really take a hard look and say: ‘Do we really want to be competing with an enterprise that is 99 and 9/10th percent—maybe not 9/10th but 99.2 percent—just a criminal enterprise?’"
Despite throwing patients a bone-- “not to say there is not a legitimate use for medical marijuana,” he added--his clear answer was no.
The legislature is expected to take up the issue in the next session. LCB executive Rick Garza told the work session that his agency’s recommendations should come out in late November—about the same time that the board is scheduled to start accepting license applications for the recreational market.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/home/948847-129/marijuana-medical-market-session-hurst-really


http://www.seattleweekly.com/home/948671-129/medical-marijuana-502-state-regulations-announcement
 

Rrog

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There are always a lot of people who holler and claw at any change. A lot of people his age have been drinking the cool-aid since Reagan and Kennedy. Compound that with decades of brainwashing from being a top cop. These people will fight this until they die.
 

abe supercro

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Looks like Jokeland Cty went after Andrew Robert Cissel for his involvement in his petitioning for legalization here in Michigan.... Once again we are reminded that Oakland Cty leo are basically evil.
 

buckaroo bonzai

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Healing or dealing? Grand Rapids medical marijuana dispensary owner heads to trial | MLive.com

GRAND RAPIDS, MI – Dave Overholt likes to use the expression “It’s healing, not dealing.”

That’s his boiled-down view of the medical marijuana dispensary he owns, called the Mid-Michigan Compassion Club.
It’s a small, nondescript business on Leonard Street NW, just a few blocks west of Alpine Avenue.

There, registered medical marijuana patients can go with registered caregivers to get small amounts of marijuana for $10 a gram.

The business has been in a state of flux, however, since Grand Rapids Police in early March raided Mid-Michigan Compassion Club as well as two other dispensaries, Natural Wellness on Taylor Avenue NE and Purple Med on Plainfield Avenue NE.
Police say dispensaries are against the law and not authorized under the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act approved by voters in 2008.

Overholt is betting a jury will decide differently.

After the March raid, he was charged with delivery or manufacture of marijuana, maintaining a drug house and delivery or manufacture of narcotics – three felonies. The operators of the other two dispensaries, Anthony Ryan Brown with Natural Wellness and Samer Hamed with Purple Med, face similar charges.

Overholt’s case is furthest along and is expected to play out in a Kent County courtroom starting Monday.

“I think this is going to be a really big case for a lot of people across the state,” Overholt said. “It’s going to give a defined direction about dispensaries.”

He believes he is operating within the law, based on the club’s “caregiver to caregiver” marijuana transfer system instead of previously outlawed “patient-to-patient” systems.

But Kent County prosecutors say Overholt has misconstrued the law.



“You can only transfer to your own patients and no one else,” said Tim McMorrow of the Kent County Prosecutor’s Office. “Our position is the caregiver-to-caregiver model is illegal.”

The state’s medical marijuana law allows for registration of both caregivers and patients. A caregiver can have up to five patients, grow up to 12 marijuana plants each for them and have up to 2.5 ounces of useable marijuana on hand for each patient.Across the state, the focus on dispensaries heated up after a February state Supreme Court ruling that many legal scholars viewed as imposing an outright ban on dispensaries.
Related stories:
• Medical marijuana: Authorities target dispensaries after Michigan Supreme Court ruling
• Grand Rapids marijuana dispensaries, raided Wednesday, still in business
• Founder of Grand Rapids marijuana dispensary arrested on drug charges
• Grand Rapids marijuana dispensary remains open while owner fights recent arrest, drug charges

Michigan Supreme Court justices ruled that a Mount Pleasant dispensary was a nuisance because of its system -- renting lockers to registered patients and caregivers to exchange marijuana at an agreed-upon price. The business owners kept a service fee for each transaction.

Justices said the state law did not contemplate “patient-to-patient sales of marijuana.”

But Overholt contends he uses a completely different business model than the Mount Pleasant dispensary. His is based on a “caregiver-to-caregiver” model.
He has about 30 different caregivers who grow different strains of marijuana and provide the club with product.

Patients can only obtain that marijuana – for $10 a gram -- if they come to the club accompanied by their caregiver.

“I don’t know what more I can do to put something in place that works,” Overholt said.

Michael Komorn, president of the Michigan Medical Marijuana Association, said the 2008 law leaves much ambiguity that is slowly becoming clearer through court cases.

He said legislators, in crafting the law, admitted to intentionally leaving out language dealing with dispensaries.
Komorn said the law should be simpler.

“It should be about whether or not any transfer is for medical use,” he said.

Dispensaries are needed, he said, because many patients who want to be their own caregiver simply are not good at growing marijuana. He claims the success rate for amateur growers is two in 10 people.

Komorn said not many cases involving dispensaries have gone to juries, so Overholt’s case could be important.
He thinks public sentiment is leaning in favor of medical marijuana and dispensaries and against police and prosecutors for enforcing “technically silly violations.”

“I believe juries are going to be appalled by the behavior of police,” he said. “The communities that surround these places do not feel the same way as law enforcement.”

Overholt, while owning the Grand Rapids dispensary, also is a registered caregiver and medical marijuana patient. He grows plants at his Montcalm County home.

Overholt is qualified as a patient because of chronic pain from an injury received while in the National Guard, and later aggravated at a factory job. He uses an extract from marijuana to treat his condition.

Since Overholt’s arrest in April, bond conditions have barred him from being within 100 feet of the Mid-Michigan Compassion Club.

Still, he said volunteers continue to run the club and it remains open.

The club is a not-for-profit business, he said, and money earned is donated to various organizations to help with projects, such as $1,100 to the American Legion for a wheelchair ramp, $150-$200 a month to the Kent County Humane Society and about $2,000 in sponsorship toward a Grand Rapids West Side pee-wee football program.

He hopes to be exonerated of the charges.

“People are super tired of this. They voted for this (medical marijuana) law and they want safe access,” he said.


http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2013/09/legal_or_not_grand_rapids_medi.html


 

buckaroo bonzai

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Experts say that the potential for marijuana as a drug is endless. Dr. Gerry Crabtree, chief executive officer of drug firm Nuvilex, says it has even proven in tests to be effective against cancer.



http://nypost.com/2013/09/11/feds-patented-medical-marijuana-even-when-they-were-fighting-it/

Feds patented medical pot… while fighting it

On Oct. 7, 2003, the US government issued Patent No. 6,630,507.
Actor Michael J. Fox and many millions of other Americans — my dear late wife, Tricia, included — could have gotten very excited about this development back then.
But it was, apparently, not the sort of thing Washington wanted advertised.
Patent No. 6,630,507, you see, is for cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants. Most people would simply refer to this as medical marijuana.
Who got that patent? The US government gave this patent to itself.
Just so you understand me, this is the same US government that has been fighting the use of marijuana as a drug. Yet its own scientists were claiming a decade ago that marijuana had been effective against a number of diseases.
Here’s what three scientists from the Department of Health and Human Services said in the abstract — or summary — of their findings submitted with the patent application: “The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroproectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke or trauma, or the treatment of neurological diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia.”
Fox has had Parkinson’s for many years. My wife suffered for nearly a decade from Multiple Sclerosis, a neurological disease, before she died nearly two years ago.
I don’t know if Fox is secretly using marijuana to ease his pain, but in a minute I’ll tell you why finding out about Patent No. 6,630,507 this week angers me.
Just last week Attorney General Eric Holder said the Federal government will not attempt to challenge state laws that allow for medical and recreational use of pot. His directive will affect 20 states that now allow marijuana to be used for medical purposes, as well as Colorado and Washington, where marijuana can be used for recreational purposes.
The new guidelines do not change marijuana’s classification as an illegal drug. The issue of marijuana’s effectiveness as a pharmaceutical, as far as I know, has never been mentioned by Washington.
Marijuana plants contain a lot of different chemicals. Tetrahydrocannabinol — or THC — is considered the most active of them. Civilizations have known for thousands of years that marijuana had special properties. In a Hindu text the weed is referred to as “sacred grass.”
Despite a track record of thousands of years, Americans are still debating whether we should allow sick people to relieve symptoms of nausea and pain with pot because marijuana may sometimes end up in the wrong hands.
This past week, for instance, New Jersey changed medical marijuana legislation — again. If Govs. Jon Corzine and Chris Christie hadn’t been so pigheaded over the past few years, my wife and others might have suffered a lot less.
Jersey’s medical pot law was passed years ago but hasn’t even gone into effect yet. A revision in the law will permit licensed dispensaries to grow and sell more than three varieties of the weed and provide an edible version for children.
Christie now gets a chance to drag his feet some more before he signs the revised bill. But don’t feel too sorry for New Jersey residents. New York doesn’t even have a medical marijuana law in the works.
Usually I don’t talk about my own life in this column — unless it’s something strange, odd or funny.
My experience with medical marijuana was none of those, but I’ll tell it anyway.
Tricia had been diagnosed with MS in 1992. It wasn’t until around 2002 that she became truly helpless. MS is an inflammatory disease in which the insulating covers of nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord are damaged.
Tricia was on so many drugs — pain killers, muscle relaxants, antidepressants, etc. — I lost count
The idea of using marijuana to ease Tricia’s severe spasms — which could last 30 minutes or more — came up frequently. But the law was a problem.
New Jersey hadn’t implemented its medical marijuana law, so I would need to acquire the drug the old-fashioned way — on the street.
I knew that if I got caught buying pot illegally I could have been fired from my job and lose my medical coverage. That would have taken me several steps backwards.
Another one of Tricia’s many doctors had us try a synthetic form of THC — the marijuana chemical — but we had to pretend that my wife was suffering through weeping spells because that’s what the drug was intended for.
She wasn’t weeping. In fact Tricia was about as happy as anyone could be under those circumstances, but we played along.
Knowing what I do now, I regret not taking the risk of getting pot on the street.
Experts say that the potential for marijuana as a drug is endless. Dr. Gerry Crabtree, chief executive officer of drug firm Nuvilex, says it has even proven in tests to be effective against cancer.
“There’s enough literature in respectable scientific journals to justify examining cannabis as a possible treatment of cancer,” Crabtree told me this week.
You won’t really appreciate what I’m talking about until someone you love might be helped by medical marijuana. But you will probably never understand just how angry I am after finding out about Patent No. 6,630,507.








 

buckaroo bonzai

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I AM-

doesn't lose. thank you buckaroo. you are my role model.
also-

please feel free to share my harvest blessings with me.

murf-

i am a nobody
...invisible:shock:online idiot

.....certainly not a role model--imho:eyesmoke:
(i sure hope not-)

just a voice crying out in the toxic wilderness they call our 'society'
...like the dreadlocked nazarite John the Baptist-

I AM is what He told us >is His name---
-the unutterable name of The Most High Creator that gave >all the plants to us

the blessings we get from growing the medicine are for everyone
not just a few

...spread the 'LOVE' murf-

everytime your heart beats it mentions the name of the Creator-
yours murfy- says "do-good ...do-good...do-good"

say it softly outload and you will get it-

somthing rasta friends taught me long ago


im humbled by your post-

YOU my friend are >MY< role model-

still working with your spine severed........

nice to see you back in here and sharing your blessings

me--?-->still ranting and trying to make folks 'think'


the blessing i will give your harvest is this murf-

<sometimes truth cannot be explained....you have to experience it>
(He is the God of truth....not the father of lies)

i will also give you a tidbit-

my friend that is a helicopter pilot and flies with the main guy who does spotter work for MSP
....told me they are discontinuing flyovers this year as it wastes too much $$ landing on medical grows and not getting convictions-

next year might be a different story he tld me--once they bring all the regulations/restrictions online

--still
.....not a reason to let your guard down ....but you can breathe easier at harvest time this year

and i been hittin the '______' area a lot lately
.....that green triangle up there is definately exploding

will have to hit u up one of these days

:peace:brother-:joint:

and can you post that capac store where all the soil goodies are at--?
--im sure Rrog and others would appreciate it......that organic shit is hard to source around here-

of course we wont talk 'ozmocote' in here-
:p
 
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