What's worse for your health...

[homer371]

1) smoking a 1-gram joint?

2) smoking .25 gram of wax that was not well purged?

 

[kinddiesel]

wax. is cleaner. but the thc is what 25 %. average and the doobie is not filtered out lots of smoke to put into your lungs with a thc average of 12 to 15 % medium quality. so it your trying to stay health. would not smoke both. buttttt I would say the wax would be better for you achieving the stronger faster high. but the thc will be hitting your system 10 times as fast. so that's the trade off. does thc cause harm . yes. but not used once in a wile like drinking a beer from time to time. if used every day any thing will fuck you up.

 

[chewberto]

Joint without tanebrain!

 

[Twitch]

how under purged are we talking? i have seen dabs catch on fire or explode in peoples faces.

 

[racerboy71]

wax. is cleaner. but the thc is what 25 %. average and the doobie is not filtered out lots of smoke to put into your lungs with a thc average of 12 to 15 % medium quality. so it your trying to stay health. would not smoke both. buttttt I would say the wax would be better for you achieving the stronger faster high. but the thc will be hitting your system 10 times as fast. so that's the trade off. does thc cause harm . yes. but not used once in a wile like drinking a beer from time to time. if used every day any thing will fuck you up.

if wax is 25% and bud is 15%, how on earth does wax hit 10x's harder than a joint??

and how exactly is thc bad for you??

 

[homer371]

how under purged are we talking? i have seen dabs catch on fire or explode in peoples faces.

hey twitch, i'm going to try my first batch of bho this season. i don't have a vacuum pump -- just thinking of purging slowly with low heat on a pirex dish and whipping. hoping to get decent quality wax that i can use in my pen vape.

thanks for the responses everyone.

 

[Twitch]

i would look into winterizing it then, it wont require you to completely purge the butane as the alcohol you dissolve it in will purge it out the butane. and the low heat in a pyrex dish will work for evaporating alcohol completely, and you wont destroy trepenes with whipping.

 

[Metasynth]

Hey Homer! LTNS bro! So, you're gonna make some wax for the first time? NICE! I've been playing with BHO for a few years now...GREAT STUFF! I lopve that when "smoked" properly, you're vaping, and not combusting! Man, I feel like we should catch up, but I don't wanna stray from the topic. When they talk about "winterizing", I believe they mean(and correct me if I'm wrong, guys) after you wash the bud or trim with butane, and evaporate most of the butane off outside away from all sources of flame or ignition, then you take the resulting BHO and dissolve it in everclear, 95+% grain alcohol, or 99% ISO, then I believe you place that in the freezer or let it cool and filter out the plant waxes by straining the solution through a coffee filter. But I find that if you blast your butane into a rectangular butane dish, and then boil off the butane over a water bath(away from flame, naturally), and then you can just let it sit in a hot water bath for hours, or over an electric skillet/griddle set to like 110*, but that takes a little more monitoring. As long as you don't scrape it into a pile, and leave the BHO as a thin film spread evenly across the surface of the pyrex, I feel that a few lengthy water bath purges can produce fully or nearly fully purged wax, since this is how I did it before I started vacuum purging. Anyway, glad to see you're still around! PM me sometime, I'd love to hear from you!

 

[Twitch]

Hey Homer! LTNS bro! So, you're gonna make some wax for the first time? NICE! I've been playing with BHO for a few years now...GREAT STUFF! I lopve that when "smoked" properly, you're vaping, and not combusting! Man, I feel like we should catch up, but I don't wanna stray from the topic. When they talk about "winterizing", I believe they mean(and correct me if I'm wrong, guys) after you wash the bud or trim with butane, and evaporate most of the butane off outside away from all sources of flame or ignition, then you take the resulting BHO and dissolve it in everclear, 95+% grain alcohol, or 99% ISO, then I believe you place that in the freezer or let it cool and filter out the plant waxes by straining the solution through a coffee filter. yes


But I find that if you blast your butane into a rectangular butane dish, and then boil off the butane over a water bath(away from flame, naturally), and then you can just let it sit in a hot water bath for hours, or over an electric skillet/griddle set to like 110*, but that takes a little more monitoring. As long as you don't scrape it into a pile, and leave the BHO as a thin film spread evenly across the surface of the pyrex, I feel that a few lengthy water bath purges can produce fully or nearly fully purged wax, since this is how I did it before I started vacuum purging. Anyway, glad to see you're still around! PM me sometime, I'd love to hear from you!

i do not agree with this last part, i bet it will still muffin if you were to sracpe that up and vacpurge it

 

[homer371]

Hey Homer! LTNS bro! So, you're gonna make some wax for the first time? NICE! I've been playing with BHO for a few years now...GREAT STUFF! I lopve that when "smoked" properly, you're vaping, and not combusting! Man, I feel like we should catch up, but I don't wanna stray from the topic. When they talk about "winterizing", I believe they mean(and correct me if I'm wrong, guys) after you wash the bud or trim with butane, and evaporate most of the butane off outside away from all sources of flame or ignition, then you take the resulting BHO and dissolve it in everclear, 95+% grain alcohol, or 99% ISO, then I believe you place that in the freezer or let it cool and filter out the plant waxes by straining the solution through a coffee filter. But I find that if you blast your butane into a rectangular butane dish, and then boil off the butane over a water bath(away from flame, naturally), and then you can just let it sit in a hot water bath for hours, or over an electric skillet/griddle set to like 110*, but that takes a little more monitoring. As long as you don't scrape it into a pile, and leave the BHO as a thin film spread evenly across the surface of the pyrex, I feel that a few lengthy water bath purges can produce fully or nearly fully purged wax, since this is how I did it before I started vacuum purging. Anyway, glad to see you're still around! PM me sometime, I'd love to hear from you!

yo yo, whats up in metaland brother? things are nice in homerville. thanks for the suggestions... do you think it's worth getting a vac purge and just doing it right? do you notice much difference (strength, effect on lungs, etc) between the stuff you were smoking before you started vacuum purging and now?

i do not agree with this last part, i bet it will still muffin if you were to sracpe that up and vacpurge it

yeah, you're probably right twitch, i'm just trying to avoid buying the vac purge equipment and still get a good (and relatively safe) wax.

peace

 

[Twitch]

i dont know why my font came out that big on that post

 

[Metasynth]

I dunno twitch, I'd agree with you that if you can scrape it into a pile of goo, it will still muffin, but h
what about when you leave in a thin layer and slow heat purge, to the point where when you try to scrape it up, it turns into dust/powder. And doesn't spark or make any noise when you sprinkle it on a bowl and combust it. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about vac purging, and I personally use a cryovac machine that I can fit my entire Pyrex into. But we all began somewhere, and that's where homer is starting out at as well. But yeah, vacuum purge for the win.

 

[Metasynth]

Nor do I like to put wax on bowls...dabs for me

 

[cheefbird]

By bad BHO I assume you mean the kind that just looks like pure goop-shit. BHO purged at room temp +/- 10 degrees is definitely safer than a joint. Details are important.

 

[homer371]

Hey cheefbird, yeah I'm planning to do a slow heat purge, with a thin layer of bho on a pyrex dish all in a hot water bat (like metasynth said), for an hour or two. Just no vac. Thanks

 

[mrcryce]

1) smoking a 1-gram joint?
2) smoking .25 gram of wax that was not well purged?

Pretty sure both are equally harmless. A joint is unlikely to contribute to the risk of lung disease, and even directly inhaling 0.25g of butane would not do much besides choke you.

 

[Pat68rick]

• i don't have a vacuum pump -- just thinking of purging slowly with low heat on a pirex dish and whipping. hoping to get decent quality wax that i can use in my pen vape.

  
  
  
  
  

 

[homer371]

thanks for the useful feedback, Pat68dick

 

[Metasynth]

Hey cheefbird, yeah I'm planning to do a slow heat purge, with a thin layer of bho on a pyrex dish all in a hot water bat (like metasynth said), for an hour or two. Just no vac. Thanks

Hey homie! Haha...By "lengthy" water purge, I meant several hours, maybe 24+...I used to just keep changing the water under the dish when it would go cold, since I didn't wanna keep it on a double boiler. But we should find you access to a vacuum chamber somehow...lol...any idea on when you were planning to begin this venture?

 

[homer371]

Yo meta, thanks dude. I was thinking of starting in a few weeks, when everything is nice and cured. Did you ever look into an electric griddle or something like that, that you can place the pyrex dish on top. 24 hours of replacing hot water sounds like a drag...

how hot do heating pads get? i use one of those on low to get my seeds to germ... maybe?

anything i can get at the $ store? lol..

peace