thanks, obama

Hemlock

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that's what happens to the price of gas when the entire economy starts circling the drain.

thanks, bush!
Denial is not just a River Buck. You and these other dolts who seems to have the inability to judge this Obama on his own merits is astounding. He has had his hands firmly on the wheel for some time now, that would mean Obama OWNS what happening. Not Bush or Cheney or Rummy. What you are seeing now is Obama plain and simple.
 

Harrekin

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Is there a "plan" where the individual gets to decide? Otherwise, somebody else is making "plans" for you. That doesn't seem consistent with freedom, does it?
Yep, you can fly American Airlines direct to Somalia or one of those other armpit countries where "freedom" is absolute.
 

Doer

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Is there a "plan" where the individual gets to decide? Otherwise, somebody else is making "plans" for you. That doesn't seem consistent with freedom, does it?
There is no freedom like that. It cannot exist. So, it is not freedom...just fantasy.
 

Red1966

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That worked. Plan most comparable to mine (not quite as good) is $753/month, but way too many details missing, like non-generic drugs, etc. I pay $86/month with employer picking up the rest. My Doctor isn't in the plan. Strange because I have the same insurer now and he's in that plan??????????????????????
 

ChesusRice

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That worked. Plan most comparable to mine (not quite as good) is $753/month, but way too many details missing, like non-generic drugs, etc. I pay $86/month with employer picking up the rest. My Doctor isn't in the plan. Strange because I have the same insurer now and he's in that plan??????????????????????
If your employer provides insurance


Why would you even care? You are not elgible
 

Red1966

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No, you can opt in for the exchanges and pay 9 times as much with after tax money. I think my employer even will subsidize some of the premium, but we pay tax on it. Or you can drop the employer plan, get the subsidy, pay the fine for not having insurance, and pocket the difference. With my health, I can't afford not to have insurance. So, yeah, I'm not interested in dropping my current plan.
 

ChesusRice

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No, you can opt in for the exchanges and pay 9 times as much with after tax money. I think my employer even will subsidize some of the premium, but we pay tax on it. Or you can drop the employer plan, get the subsidy, pay the fine for not having insurance, and pocket the difference. With my health, I can't afford not to have insurance. So, yeah, I'm not interested in dropping my current plan.
Ok so you can buy insurance thru the exchanges

Since Obamacare only positivly affected your current insurance

Why would you bother shopping with the deal you have now?
 

Red1966

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How did Obamacare positively affect my current insurance? Your statement is untruthful. In answer to your question, idle curiosity.
 
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