What can I do to help the little guy?
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Biggravy22
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I don't know how that will roll. I live in ontario (pit bulls are banned), and the people are deathly afraid of them. I think they would be afraid moose would eat him alive.I read the whole thread but I think I'll stick to this original post. I wouldn't be so quick to call the humane society. If the dog is fed and watered and not living in feces it will be hard to prove it's neglected. As far as walking the dog.... it's going to be your word against theirs. They could easily say they exercise the dog during the hours you are at work.
I have an idea... if I'm not mistaken I think I remember you posting in another thread that you had a fenced "dog area" for them to run and play right? If so.... knock on their door and tell the neighbor you noticed they had 1 dog and you have 1 dog and you thought maybe they'd like to play together in the fenced area. You could offer to take their dog down and back for the lazy fucks too
It may sound silly.... but it's really not if both dogs are friendly. Jack gets bored playing by himself and when I'm working I can't stand out there all day and throw his ball for him so I put a gate in my back fence so the neighbors behind me (who don't have a fenced yard) could let their dog in my backyard to play with Jack. They'd run and play for hours... until they dropped from exhaustion.
Anyway... just a thought.
Florida Girl
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Ahhh that sucks. I guess you could complain to the landlord and let them take it up with the tenants. At the very least they can force them to let the dog inside at night so it doesn't bark all night.
Biggravy22
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I Do think they would get along. Moose is the total package. Handsome, nice, respectful, and sensitive. He's the perfect son. lol.
PoseidonsNet
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peopel that neglect animals like that
r animals themselves
they just get antognistic if u try correct them
r animals themselves
they just get antognistic if u try correct them
Biggravy22
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Oh I know...I can already tell what type of person he is. I wont be able to reason with him.
PoseidonsNet
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When man's best friend isn't that friendly - Swivel
more than half the dogs on that list are german
rottweilers
doberman pinschers
and the third most dangerous dog of all???????
the pure bread german shephard
in fact its second if u add the cross breads to it
germans just love inbreeding
more than half the dogs on that list are german
rottweilers
doberman pinschers
and the third most dangerous dog of all???????
the pure bread german shephard
in fact its second if u add the cross breads to it
germans just love inbreeding
howhigh123
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go up the house when the neighbors arent there..untie the dog..and take em...thats wat i did wen my neighbor neglectedthier dog..i took matters into my own hands...
Stoney McFried
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Inbreeding is when you breed within the family. German shepherds are great hunting dogs, my dad insisted on them. They also guarded and protected our yard, and us as children. If you are good to an animal, that animal loves and is loyal to you.
When man's best friend isn't that friendly - Swivel
more than half the dogs on that list are german
rottweilers
doberman pinschers
and the third most dangerous dog of all???????
the pure bread german shephard
in fact its second if u add the cross breads to it
germans just love inbreeding
Stoney McFried
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Oh and in the interest of fairness, here's the rest of that article in which it states unknown dog bites, which make up 50%, have been omitted.////
Sources: National Center for Injury and Prevention Control (http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/du...)
State legislation is cracking down on canines. Texas has made it a felony punishable by up to ten years in the slammer for anyone whose dog seriously injures another person while off its leash. States like Virginia and New York have also taken measures and created dangerous dog lists that can be accessed by the public online; others, like Ohio have attempted to ban breeds that are deemed overly aggressive. This graph shows how many dog-related fatalities occurred between 1979-1998. Purebred Pit-bulls are responsible for 27% of fatalities; Purebred Rottweilers, 16%; and Purebred German Shepards, 7%. (Unknown dog breeds are responsible for about 50% of fatalities or 238 deaths, but have been omitted.) Although the numbers suggest that these breeds of dogs might be more inclined to injure or kill, Randall Lockwood of the American Veterinary Medical Association advises against making such harsh legislation based on dog-related fatalities because they're relatively rare. Randall goes on to suggest that dog-related fatalities are more a reflection on people wanting to own an aggressive status symbol than the dogs inclination towards violent behavior. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention an estimated 4.7 million dog bites occurred in the United States in 2001; of which about 800,000 required medical care. About 30 percent of victims were under the age of 14. The most common areas of the body injured are the hands, face, and lower leg. And while there is no opportune time for dog bites, there was a peak in number the of occurrences during the warm month of June. —Natalie
Comments (6)
sara
sara says I had always been under the impression that Dalmatians also had a high incidence of attacks - especially of children. The reasons I have heard are because they were greatly over-produced and inbred due to the 101 Dalmatians movie where everyone wanted to get their kid one afterwards. But none of the data show this to be true. They were getting a bad rap!
posted 11 months ago
sara
sara says ps. the two best dogs ever:
http://www.dogster.com/dogs...
and
http://www.dogster.com/dogs...
posted 11 months ago
Ryan says Interesting graph. I find it a bit hard to believe that there were 4.7 million dog bites in one year however.
posted 11 months ago
Christy says What the graph does not address (and I realize it is displaying documented statistics), but something I believe to be integral to this topic, is the reason for the dog attack. I believe, despite the increased incidence of Pitbull bites, the attacks have much less to do with breed and much more to do with context. I am unsure whether information regarding the circumstances surrounding dog bites is known or is just not published.
http://www.fataldogattacks....
The above link may, at first glance, appear to have negative and menacing information about man's best friend. However, it actually leads to two books with important information (some statistics included) regarding the misinformation involved in dog attacks. The books also target the blame where it rightly lies, with us, the thoughtless twits who overbreed and undercontrol dogs, and mold their behavior to be that of aggressors. So really, it's man who is his own enemy, not Spot.
posted 11 months ago
Anonymous says what area is this graph supposed to be for anyways? Texas as well?
posted 11 months ago
jtanium
jtanium says @Ryan, according to http://answers.google.com/a... there are 73 million dogs in the U.S. That 's roughly 1 attack by 6% of the dog population -- that seems perfectly reasonable to me.
@Christy, I don't think anybody would argue the point that irresponsible owners are at fault. In the description for 'Fatal Dog Attacks: The Stories Behind the Attacks' it says "Breed specific behaviors that have been respected and selected for over the centuries are now often viewed as unnatural or dangerous." Those behaviors are dangerous now. Bringing a dog that has "been used for thousands of years to track, chase and hunt both large and small animals" into a densly populated area is obviously dangerous.
And the fact of the matter is that dogs do what they were bread to do. I love basset hounds, and it doesn't matter what you do, when those dogs catch an interesting scent, they're gone. Bassets were bread to follow scents, and I can't train that out of her.
In this case, I would say there are certain breeds of dogs which shouldn't be allowed in certain communities.
In the interest of full disclosure, my wife is one of those statistics, she was taken to the hospital after an unprovoked attack by a Rottweiler. After the dog was quarantined, the owner came and yelled at her that it was going to be put down because it had already attacked several people. Clearly this person should not have had any dog, however if this owner had a less aggressive breed, maybe my wife wouldn't have had to go to the hospital. Since we can't limit people's personal liberties in owning a dog, the next best thing is to limit the kind of dogs they can have.
posted 10 months ago
Sources: National Center for Injury and Prevention Control (http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/du...)
State legislation is cracking down on canines. Texas has made it a felony punishable by up to ten years in the slammer for anyone whose dog seriously injures another person while off its leash. States like Virginia and New York have also taken measures and created dangerous dog lists that can be accessed by the public online; others, like Ohio have attempted to ban breeds that are deemed overly aggressive. This graph shows how many dog-related fatalities occurred between 1979-1998. Purebred Pit-bulls are responsible for 27% of fatalities; Purebred Rottweilers, 16%; and Purebred German Shepards, 7%. (Unknown dog breeds are responsible for about 50% of fatalities or 238 deaths, but have been omitted.) Although the numbers suggest that these breeds of dogs might be more inclined to injure or kill, Randall Lockwood of the American Veterinary Medical Association advises against making such harsh legislation based on dog-related fatalities because they're relatively rare. Randall goes on to suggest that dog-related fatalities are more a reflection on people wanting to own an aggressive status symbol than the dogs inclination towards violent behavior. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention an estimated 4.7 million dog bites occurred in the United States in 2001; of which about 800,000 required medical care. About 30 percent of victims were under the age of 14. The most common areas of the body injured are the hands, face, and lower leg. And while there is no opportune time for dog bites, there was a peak in number the of occurrences during the warm month of June. —Natalie
Comments (6)
sarasara says I had always been under the impression that Dalmatians also had a high incidence of attacks - especially of children. The reasons I have heard are because they were greatly over-produced and inbred due to the 101 Dalmatians movie where everyone wanted to get their kid one afterwards. But none of the data show this to be true. They were getting a bad rap!
posted 11 months ago
sarasara says ps. the two best dogs ever:
http://www.dogster.com/dogs...
and
http://www.dogster.com/dogs...
posted 11 months ago
Ryan says Interesting graph. I find it a bit hard to believe that there were 4.7 million dog bites in one year however.
posted 11 months ago
Christy says What the graph does not address (and I realize it is displaying documented statistics), but something I believe to be integral to this topic, is the reason for the dog attack. I believe, despite the increased incidence of Pitbull bites, the attacks have much less to do with breed and much more to do with context. I am unsure whether information regarding the circumstances surrounding dog bites is known or is just not published.
http://www.fataldogattacks....
The above link may, at first glance, appear to have negative and menacing information about man's best friend. However, it actually leads to two books with important information (some statistics included) regarding the misinformation involved in dog attacks. The books also target the blame where it rightly lies, with us, the thoughtless twits who overbreed and undercontrol dogs, and mold their behavior to be that of aggressors. So really, it's man who is his own enemy, not Spot.
posted 11 months ago
Anonymous says what area is this graph supposed to be for anyways? Texas as well?
posted 11 months ago
jtaniumjtanium says @Ryan, according to http://answers.google.com/a... there are 73 million dogs in the U.S. That 's roughly 1 attack by 6% of the dog population -- that seems perfectly reasonable to me.
@Christy, I don't think anybody would argue the point that irresponsible owners are at fault. In the description for 'Fatal Dog Attacks: The Stories Behind the Attacks' it says "Breed specific behaviors that have been respected and selected for over the centuries are now often viewed as unnatural or dangerous." Those behaviors are dangerous now. Bringing a dog that has "been used for thousands of years to track, chase and hunt both large and small animals" into a densly populated area is obviously dangerous.
And the fact of the matter is that dogs do what they were bread to do. I love basset hounds, and it doesn't matter what you do, when those dogs catch an interesting scent, they're gone. Bassets were bread to follow scents, and I can't train that out of her.
In this case, I would say there are certain breeds of dogs which shouldn't be allowed in certain communities.
In the interest of full disclosure, my wife is one of those statistics, she was taken to the hospital after an unprovoked attack by a Rottweiler. After the dog was quarantined, the owner came and yelled at her that it was going to be put down because it had already attacked several people. Clearly this person should not have had any dog, however if this owner had a less aggressive breed, maybe my wife wouldn't have had to go to the hospital. Since we can't limit people's personal liberties in owning a dog, the next best thing is to limit the kind of dogs they can have.
posted 10 months ago
PoseidonsNet
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to an extent yes,
but i would not hug a pitbull
and many dogs have had the aggression trained in for generations.
alsations (not shephards at all) have a short life span for a dog
some last only six years with the best care b4 the back legs
cave in due to inbreeding. things like distemper are also caused by this.
(rottweilers)
the way that german dogs are the majority of that list
says more about germans than its says about dogs
border collies are the kings of the dogworld
Barking Mad
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I have to disagree with you posidon. I am an animal lover and have rescued a number of dogs over the years. My first rescue was a dog owned by a homeless guy who used to twist his ears and the dogs yelps chilled me to the bone. I offered to look after him one day and kept the dog. The welfare people were aware but could not take the dog away without any evidence. Absolutely everyone who knew either me or the dog said they were pleased and that I did the right thing.
I had him for five years, just after he passed away, my neighbour got a puppy which he kept chained up outside all day and locked in the bathroom at night where she lived in her own piss and shit. One afternoon I was walking past and her water bowl was empty, when I put some water in she drank the lot and he moaned that she will be pissing all night now and was i going to clean it up. I said yes, I would clean it up and offered to buy the dog (even though I didn't want one).
She was 3 months old, I gave him my benefit money two days later and am now the very proud owner of a beautiful dog. She.s a cross between a great-dane and a mastiff. Mastiffs are potentially agressive dogs, especially when abused like she was. She is now almost 5 years old and the most friendly and loving dog you could meet.
I also have two others, all rescue dogs and all very happy.
I had him for five years, just after he passed away, my neighbour got a puppy which he kept chained up outside all day and locked in the bathroom at night where she lived in her own piss and shit. One afternoon I was walking past and her water bowl was empty, when I put some water in she drank the lot and he moaned that she will be pissing all night now and was i going to clean it up. I said yes, I would clean it up and offered to buy the dog (even though I didn't want one).
She was 3 months old, I gave him my benefit money two days later and am now the very proud owner of a beautiful dog. She.s a cross between a great-dane and a mastiff. Mastiffs are potentially agressive dogs, especially when abused like she was. She is now almost 5 years old and the most friendly and loving dog you could meet.
I also have two others, all rescue dogs and all very happy.
Stoney McFried
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Distemper isnt caused by inbreeding! Its a virus!Canine distemper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Canine Distemper (CDV) - Overview, Transmission & Symptoms - animalhealthchannel
Stoney McFried
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I love mastiffs....every mastiff I have ever seen is strong, loyal, and a great protector of children.But I guess thats any dog, if you treat them well.
I have to disagree with you posidon. I am an animal lover and have rescued a number of dogs over the years. My first rescue was a dog owned by a homeless guy who used to twist his ears and the dogs yelps chilled me to the bone. I offered to look after him one day and kept the dog. The welfare people were aware but could not take the dog away without any evidence. Absolutely everyone who knew either me or the dog said they were pleased and that I did the right thing.
I had him for five years, just after he passed away, my neighbour got a puppy which he kept chained up outside all day and locked in the bathroom at night where she lived in her own piss and shit. One afternoon I was walking past and her water bowl was empty, when I put some water in she drank the lot and he moaned that she will be pissing all night now and was i going to clean it up. I said yes, I would clean it up and offered to buy the dog (even though I didn't want one).
She was 3 months old, I gave him my benefit money two days later and am now the very proud owner of a beautiful dog. She.s a cross between a great-dane and a mastiff. Mastiffs are potentially agressive dogs, especially when abused like she was. She is now almost 5 years old and the most friendly and loving dog you could meet.
I also have two others, all rescue dogs and all very happy.
PoseidonsNet
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that is one beautiful dog,
a true British gentleman,
the soul migrates in the dogworld too,
but German dogs are violent, not bcos of there dogness
but bcos of who trains them to be people hunters
thanks for the link on distemper,
u may even have corrected me on that small point
- still looking into it - too soon 2b sure tho
a true British gentleman,
the soul migrates in the dogworld too,
but German dogs are violent, not bcos of there dogness
but bcos of who trains them to be people hunters
thanks for the link on distemper,
u may even have corrected me on that small point
- still looking into it - too soon 2b sure tho
Stoney McFried
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Poseidon, I've corrected you on every point you ever had.
PoseidonsNet
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you have known me forever then?
u must know more about me than i do!
u must know more about me than i do!